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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3105 on: November 19, 2013, 03:39:01 AM »
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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3106 on: November 19, 2013, 09:45:18 AM »
I understand that she was not the daughter of one of the favored wives - so she might have been "trying harder", as it were.  If the Greeks were following Egyptian custom, the first born daughter would have been the one selected as "Throne Daughter" - i.e. whichever of her brothers was selected as heir would have been married off to her to make it clear who the next ruler would be. 


According to the late Barbara Mertz this is an inaccurate idea. One of the reasons they say this? There was no title for that.  Later dynasties did have a title - but that was a title for a ritual priestess which was a hereditary position.

I'm prepared to believe that an article written an unknown number of years ago but read in college (we'll average that out as about 35 years ago) was not the most up to date with CURRENT Egyptology!

It may also have been a simplification for narrative purposes, as I think that they were explaining why one of the pharaohs who LITERALLY took the throne (no heir of the previous pharaoh survived some war) married one of Pharaoh's surviving sisters (or wives - it's been 35 years) and then married his own oldest daughter as a ritual way to cement his own "legitimacy" as pharaoh.  Because to many non-Egyptians, the marrying your own daughter thing was...well, icky.  The writer did state that the daughter never conceived and it might be that marriage was "in name only" for ritual purposes. 

After three to five thousand or so years and I don't know how many dynasties later, even while pharaohs ruled Egypt, I don't think that it made much of a difference either way.

But there were signs of serious inbreeding in the Egyptian royal dynasties, at times - the heretic king, Ankhnaten (sp?) had several noticeable oddities - and was one of the few who had "natural" portraits made, instead of "perfected" ritual portraits made, which was the custom for thousands of years (something Egyptologists of 35 years ago and today generally agree on - there were brief periods when "natural" or "realistic" schools of art came into fashion but they didn't always last).
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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3107 on: November 19, 2013, 10:13:06 AM »
My library patron wanted a photograph of Cleopatra.  Not a photo of her traditional portrait bust or her portrait on a coin, which was as close as she was going to get.  A photo of ALL of her.  It took a good 20 minutes to snaffle out that she wanted to go to a costume party dressed as Cleopatra.   ::)

Oh, dear. I've had those too. And trying to explain that there were no cameras then gets you sweet nowhere.
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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3108 on: November 19, 2013, 10:29:27 AM »
Barensmom and Momof2weenies, I KNEW I liked you!

With regard to "I need photos of Cleopatra"...I'm sure I've mentioned it before, but it's so appropriate now:

1) Head of Children's Services spent several loooong minutes explaining to an adult female that there were no cameras around to take photographs of LIVE dinosaurs.

2)I have received complaints from teen patrons as follows:  "You know, it's really wrong.  You have videotape and DVDs of John Kennedy giving his inaugural address, and tape of FDR giving a lot of his speeches.  Why don't you have videotape of Abraham Lincoln and George Washington giving THEIR speeches?"  Explaining about the invention of videotape sort of post dating Lincoln did not go over well.

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« Reply #3109 on: November 19, 2013, 10:38:57 AM »
My library patron wanted a photograph of Cleopatra.  Not a photo of her traditional portrait bust or her portrait on a coin, which was as close as she was going to get.  A photo of ALL of her.  It took a good 20 minutes to snaffle out that she wanted to go to a costume party dressed as Cleopatra.   ::)

Oh, dear. I've had those too. And trying to explain that there were no cameras then gets you sweet nowhere.

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« Reply #3110 on: November 19, 2013, 11:38:13 AM »
Pre-Web days, when I worked as an undergrad in a library, I had a patron ask me to help her find a photo of Einstein playing the violin. In and of itself, the request would have been interesting, and I was familiar enough with our collection that I could have found something fairly quickly. However, the timing of her request was highly inappropriate.

Beings how we were in the middle of a lock-down due to an armed gunman being loose, while several people had been shot in a room just down the hall, I was disinclined to help her. Lady, I'm still in shock, we're locked in a room, several people I know have been killed, and the gunman is someone who I had a not-so-good-history with, a cop just told me to lock the doors and turn out the lights, and you want me to find you a stupid photo???

Being 19 years old, I just pointed her in the general direction of the biographies, and the xerox machine, and went back to trying to figure out what the heck to do while locked in the library with the lights off and three patrons to take care of. The Now Me, would have probably told her exactly what I thought of her request. Very politely of course.

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« Reply #3111 on: November 19, 2013, 12:33:55 PM »
I can imagine the patron thinking, "Well, while we're here, may as well get what I came for...."
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« Reply #3112 on: November 19, 2013, 12:43:09 PM »
Pre-Web days, when I worked as an undergrad in a library, I had a patron ask me to help her find a photo of Einstein playing the violin. In and of itself, the request would have been interesting, and I was familiar enough with our collection that I could have found something fairly quickly. However, the timing of her request was highly inappropriate.

Beings how we were in the middle of a lock-down due to an armed gunman being loose, while several people had been shot in a room just down the hall, I was disinclined to help her. Lady, I'm still in shock, we're locked in a room, several people I know have been killed, and the gunman is someone who I had a not-so-good-history with, a cop just told me to lock the doors and turn out the lights, and you want me to find you a stupid photo???

Being 19 years old, I just pointed her in the general direction of the biographies, and the xerox machine, and went back to trying to figure out what the heck to do while locked in the library with the lights off and three patrons to take care of. The Now Me, would have probably told her exactly what I thought of her request. Very politely of course.
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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3113 on: November 19, 2013, 12:47:41 PM »
Pre-Web days, when I worked as an undergrad in a library, I had a patron ask me to help her find a photo of Einstein playing the violin. In and of itself, the request would have been interesting, and I was familiar enough with our collection that I could have found something fairly quickly. However, the timing of her request was highly inappropriate.

Beings how we were in the middle of a lock-down due to an armed gunman being loose, while several people had been shot in a room just down the hall, I was disinclined to help her. Lady, I'm still in shock, we're locked in a room, several people I know have been killed, and the gunman is someone who I had a not-so-good-history with, a cop just told me to lock the doors and turn out the lights, and you want me to find you a stupid photo???

Being 19 years old, I just pointed her in the general direction of the biographies, and the xerox machine, and went back to trying to figure out what the heck to do while locked in the library with the lights off and three patrons to take care of. The Now Me, would have probably told her exactly what I thought of her request. Very politely of course.

Some people deal with shock by locking into the task they had been doing previously.  Hopefully that was the explanation for this woman's behaviour.

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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3114 on: November 19, 2013, 01:10:09 PM »
Pre-Web days, when I worked as an undergrad in a library, I had a patron ask me to help her find a photo of Einstein playing the violin. In and of itself, the request would have been interesting, and I was familiar enough with our collection that I could have found something fairly quickly. However, the timing of her request was highly inappropriate.

Beings how we were in the middle of a lock-down due to an armed gunman being loose, while several people had been shot in a room just down the hall, I was disinclined to help her. Lady, I'm still in shock, we're locked in a room, several people I know have been killed, and the gunman is someone who I had a not-so-good-history with, a cop just told me to lock the doors and turn out the lights, and you want me to find you a stupid photo???

Being 19 years old, I just pointed her in the general direction of the biographies, and the xerox machine, and went back to trying to figure out what the heck to do while locked in the library with the lights off and three patrons to take care of. The Now Me, would have probably told her exactly what I thought of her request. Very politely of course.

Some people deal with shock by locking into the task they had been doing previously.  Hopefully that was the explanation for this woman's behaviour.

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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3115 on: November 19, 2013, 02:00:27 PM »
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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3116 on: November 19, 2013, 11:47:46 PM »


I'm prepared to believe that an article written an unknown number of years ago but read in college (we'll average that out as about 35 years ago) was not the most up to date with CURRENT Egyptology!



Ms Mertz had a PhD in Egyptology from the University of Chicago. She knew her stuff and kept up to date; her two non-fiction books were revised within the last 6 years or so. Her thesis- Egyptian queens and the throne.  So yes the woman knew what she was talking about.
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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3117 on: November 20, 2013, 12:33:51 AM »


I'm prepared to believe that an article written an unknown number of years ago but read in college (we'll average that out as about 35 years ago) was not the most up to date with CURRENT Egyptology!



Ms Mertz had a PhD in Egyptology from the University of Chicago. She knew her stuff and kept up to date; her two non-fiction books were revised within the last 6 years or so. Her thesis- Egyptian queens and the throne.  So yes the woman knew what she was talking about.

Okay - time to hit the library and do a little light reading on Egyptian queens!  Well - maybe after Thanksgiving - I need to research some recipes right now (VorGuy's diabetes means double checking the current recipes).
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Re: Not Going To Happen 'Cause I'm Not Harry Potter (Impossible Patron Requests)
« Reply #3118 on: November 20, 2013, 03:36:06 AM »
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I like the cab driver mischief!  ;D

Yeah, they're really sweet boys mostly.  They claim they prefer me to the other night guy because I'm prettier.  He was a little offended by that at first, until one taxi driver pointed out that surely Ollie didn't want to be flirted with by a bunch of bored taxi drivers in the middle of the night!

Hard to argue with that! Lol :D

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« Reply #3119 on: November 22, 2013, 10:53:19 AM »
Fun one: This email was sent to me, but I don't have anything to do with the equipment he is asking about. I forwarded it to the correct person, but I had to laugh at the request. My internal comments are bolded.

"My name is xxx and this is my first time submitting anything to be cut on the [very slow piece of equipment] and I hope this is the correct email account (it was on the university website) [not sure where he got that, as I have nothing to do with this equipment, and nowhere does it even imply that I have anything to do with it]. I left 4 pieces of plywood outside the [shop] earlier today with my name on them in tape. I'm not sure if the file I'm sending you has more than one sheet in the design but i will need eight forms and i'll need them before thanksgiving break (if possible). [break starts later today, this was sent late yesterday afternoon, after the facility in question closed for the day. Did I mention that the equipment he wants to use is fully booked and SLOW?]

If their are any problems let me know and ill fix them right away.

Thank you!"

Seriously, sometimes I think the students hear the word "computer" and think MAGIC happens... These forms that he wants are very large (I opened the file out of curiosity). Easily would take 30 minutes each to cut, if not longer. My coworker who IS in charge of this equipment replied back that he'd talk to him, and added that it'd be a yes and no reply. They are not open over the weekend or evenings, and they already had a full schedule of jobs for today. I'm guessing this is going to involve my coworker staying late, or else he came in early, from what I gathered from the rest of his email.

If it had been me, the answer would have been no. I would move heaven and earth to come in early in case of a true emergency (like if he had to recut due to something getting stolen or vandalized), but not for a lack of planning like this. Actions have consequences, and that is on of the biggest lesson we can teach our students (the other is: Crap happens, and stuff breaks!).

This one happened to me yesterday morning:

I oversee three very in-demand pieces of equipment, as part of my job. These items are so in demand, that we have to have a lottery to determine the order that students line up to sign up for time on the equipment, since we used to have people camping out 16 hours + ahead of the posting of the new sign-up sheets (they are released a week at a time). With careful planning and organization, all 100 students in line got time on the equipment, but some of the questions made me shake my head. I'm sharing the best:

 "What if there is no time that I can use?"

We are open 24 hours a day, there is no more time I can add.

"But what if I can't make it any of those times?"

I really can't be open any more than 24 hours a day.

"But why not?"

Fantasy answer: You see Young Padawan, the earth rotates around its axis. It takes 24 hours to complete a rotation. One rotation is one day. We are open ALL of the hours in the day, there are no more. I can't bend space and time and create more hours in a day, no matter how much you pout. Not impressed. Okay, just kidding, you can have the 25 o'clock session.  :o >:D

What she meant was, "I don't want to have to come in at 6 am to use this piece of equipment that I really need to use to complete my project."

I also had someone ask if we'd be getting a 4th piece of equipment, because apparently my facility has been mistaken for the Tardis...