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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #17550 on: October 14, 2012, 12:29:13 PM »
I wouldn't have any problem going to a strictly secular event that happened to be held in a house of worship.  We've gone to several in Unitarian churches and synagogues.   

After all, RPI installed one of their course labs in a deconsecrated church.  If you think about it, the reuse of the space was oddly appropriate.

It has been going on for a long time.  In "Little Town on the Prairie" Laura's school exhibition was held in the church because there wasn't enough room in the schoolhouse to fit everyone in who wanted to see it.  Sometimes being practical has to take precedence.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #17551 on: October 14, 2012, 12:35:34 PM »
I wouldn't have any problem going to a strictly secular event that happened to be held in a house of worship.  We've gone to several in Unitarian churches and synagogues.   

After all, RPI installed one of their course labs in a deconsecrated church.  If you think about it, the reuse of the space was oddly appropriate.

There are people whose religion forbids this though, I wonder what they are expected to do.

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« Reply #17552 on: October 14, 2012, 01:40:28 PM »
I wouldn't have any problem going to a strictly secular event that happened to be held in a house of worship.  We've gone to several in Unitarian churches and synagogues.   

After all, RPI installed one of their course labs in a deconsecrated church.  If you think about it, the reuse of the space was oddly appropriate.

There are people whose religion forbids this though, I wonder what they are expected to do.
I was under the impression that their religion forbids them from attending services in another religion.  That's a long way from just entering the building to attend a secular lecture.
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« Reply #17553 on: October 14, 2012, 01:48:15 PM »
I wouldn't have any problem going to a strictly secular event that happened to be held in a house of worship.  We've gone to several in Unitarian churches and synagogues.   

After all, RPI installed one of their course labs in a deconsecrated church.  If you think about it, the reuse of the space was oddly appropriate.

There are people whose religion forbids this though, I wonder what they are expected to do.

Why would any religion forbid someone from entering a deconsecrated  church.  It's no longer a house of worship and is no longer dedicated to religious purposes at this point it is no different than going to another classroom building on campus or another theater. This is common practice in some cities these days.  And if your religion forbids it still you should have done your research better and figured that out before hand.  The rest of the community does not havve your restrictions and should not have to work around them for you. If this is the building that is now used this is the  building used.
  If the and if they object to merely sitting in a building to get information they can make arrangements to get the info in another way. Have a friend or administrator record it or something.

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« Reply #17554 on: October 14, 2012, 02:04:16 PM »
I wouldn't have any problem going to a strictly secular event that happened to be held in a house of worship.  We've gone to several in Unitarian churches and synagogues.   

After all, RPI installed one of their course labs in a deconsecrated church.  If you think about it, the reuse of the space was oddly appropriate.

There are people whose religion forbids this though, I wonder what they are expected to do.

I have this problem with my school district. They hold events in a local church. This is Houston there are other venues that can hold the event not 5 minutes away.  I know at least one staff member that has to go to her pastor and get permission to attend. They also may be facing a huge lawsuit in the near future if they don't stop, this and some other violations of staff and student civil rights.  (My principal sends out a weekly newsletter to staff that is a Sunday school lesson.)
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« Reply #17555 on: October 15, 2012, 02:49:00 AM »
On the flip side, I went to a private, christian high-school - which just happened to be in the top schools in the territory and got some truly astounding marks in the final territory-wide assessments. There were parents who complained that their child was required to attend a service every fortnight at the school chapel. They didn't actually have to contribute, or even stand for the singing or prayers, just attend. Despite enrolling and paying for their child at a school which in its name declared itself religious.

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« Reply #17556 on: October 15, 2012, 10:21:46 AM »
DH and I went to the movies this weekend. Behind us was a bunch of young (probably 14-15) teens. During the previews, one of them called his Dad on the phone and said "Dad, you need to come to the movie theater with some money. We don't have enough for popcorn. What do you mean, 'no'? we NEED popcorn. We only have like $3 left! COME ON, just bring the money!"

His father apparently did not bring the money to the movie theater. I told my husband later that if I had a kid who talked to me like that, they wouldn't be going to the movies for a very long time..

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« Reply #17557 on: October 15, 2012, 10:35:15 AM »
DH and I went to the movies this weekend. Behind us was a bunch of young (probably 14-15) teens. During the previews, one of them called his Dad on the phone and said "Dad, you need to come to the movie theater with some money. We don't have enough for popcorn. What do you mean, 'no'? we NEED popcorn. We only have like $3 left! COME ON, just bring the money!"

His father apparently did not bring the money to the movie theater. I told my husband later that if I had a kid who talked to me like that, they wouldn't be going to the movies for a very long time..

SOunds like my CW's child, who wants everything under the sun, and my CW sadly, gives in, then whines about how entitled her child is.  Um, I'm sorry, but its YOUR problem you cna't tell her no.

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« Reply #17558 on: October 15, 2012, 03:21:20 PM »
DH and I went to the movies this weekend. Behind us was a bunch of young (probably 14-15) teens. During the previews, one of them called his Dad on the phone and said "Dad, you need to come to the movie theater with some money. We don't have enough for popcorn. What do you mean, 'no'? we NEED popcorn. We only have like $3 left! COME ON, just bring the money!"

His father apparently did not bring the money to the movie theater. I told my husband later that if I had a kid who talked to me like that, they wouldn't be going to the movies for a very long time..

If I had made a call like that, my parents would have come to the movie theater, all right...to march me out of the theater and loudly embarrass me in front of my friends!

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« Reply #17559 on: October 15, 2012, 03:38:43 PM »
DH and I went to the movies this weekend. Behind us was a bunch of young (probably 14-15) teens. During the previews, one of them called his Dad on the phone and said "Dad, you need to come to the movie theater with some money. We don't have enough for popcorn. What do you mean, 'no'? we NEED popcorn. We only have like $3 left! COME ON, just bring the money!"

His father apparently did not bring the money to the movie theater. I told my husband later that if I had a kid who talked to me like that, they wouldn't be going to the movies for a very long time..

If I had made a call like that, my parents would have come to the movie theater, all right...to march me out of the theater and loudly embarrass me in front of my friends!

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« Reply #17560 on: October 15, 2012, 03:53:06 PM »

Happened to me - I did everything mentioned (pull the emergency brake, honk the horn) and finally got to a section of roadway that had concrete Jersey barriers and scraped my car along it to slow it as best I could.  A State trooper pulled alongside me, paced my car, and started shoving his car into mine to press it further into the wall.  To celebrate and honor him for saving my life, I puked all over his nice uniform about twenty minutes after it was over.  So I was a SS for thanking him in that spectacular roadside fashion.

Not SS'y at all, CharlieBraun. Probably the Trooper was glad he could help you and possibly save your life, and he'd probably rather have a thankful/adrenaline-reaction hurl than the kinds he usually gets (drunken!) Glad you were okay!
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« Reply #17561 on: October 18, 2012, 12:42:21 PM »
b/g I workout at one of those places that is accessible to their members 24/7.  There are hours when it is staffed, but most of the time when I go it is outside those hours.  We have key fobs we can use to get into the place during the non-staffed hours.  If you let someone in who doesn't have a fob, you can be charged $50. 

This morning while I was working out on a machine by the front window someone was trying to get in by ringing the bell, and then she asked me through the window to let her in.  I refused ($50 is a really good determent).  She gave me a cat-butt face and said something; I think from reading her lips, it was that she forgot her keys or she'd left her keys in the gym.  I don't know, but either way, I wasn't going to let her in.  Eventually, another member let her in, but she was obviously not happy with me based on the looks I got through the window.  The rules are clear, they are posted by the door, and also, honestly, I was in the middle of my workout; I would stop for an emergency, this wasn't one.


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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #17562 on: October 18, 2012, 04:36:14 PM »
I would stop for an emergency, this wasn't one.
This situation seems to fit the age-old advice, "Lack of planning on your part does not make an emergency on my part." 8)
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« Reply #17563 on: October 18, 2012, 05:07:05 PM »
b/g I workout at one of those places that is accessible to their members 24/7.  There are hours when it is staffed, but most of the time when I go it is outside those hours.  We have key fobs we can use to get into the place during the non-staffed hours.  If you let someone in who doesn't have a fob, you can be charged $50. 

This morning while I was working out on a machine by the front window someone was trying to get in by ringing the bell, and then she asked me through the window to let her in.  I refused ($50 is a really good determent).  She gave me a cat-butt face and said something; I think from reading her lips, it was that she forgot her keys or she'd left her keys in the gym.  I don't know, but either way, I wasn't going to let her in.  Eventually, another member let her in, but she was obviously not happy with me based on the looks I got through the window.  The rules are clear, they are posted by the door, and also, honestly, I was in the middle of my workout; I would stop for an emergency, this wasn't one.

i had the same issue only with the post office.  due to my elderly landlady taking ALL the mail, including mine, and not remembering where it was etc. I got a PO box.  Which was in the lobby, accessible 24/7 by an access card.  But only the lobby, and I can't tell you how many times I had people want me to let them in when I was going to get my mail, and then wondering WHY the PO wasn't open at 11 pm at night!  It was a safe area, but I wasn't comfortable letting someone in with me as most of the time they weren't going to get mail they thought they could actually go INTO the PO.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #17564 on: October 19, 2012, 02:21:33 AM »
I would stop for an emergency, this wasn't one.
This situation seems to fit the age-old advice, "Lack of planning on your part does not make an emergency on my part." 8)

Reminds me of that awkward Seinfield episode where he refuses to let a guy into the building with him because of security issues and building policy, and it turns out the guy is in fact legit and has recently moved in, and really had just forgotten his keys as he claimed.   It was sucky because Jerry was completely in the right in what he did, but he made an enemy of his new neighbour and looked like a jerk!  Rules are rules though.  If they need emergency access that's what a super or building manager is for.
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