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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20385 on: April 08, 2013, 12:13:20 PM »
Here's the thing, though. I've *never* heard "American" used to refer to anyone *but* someone from the United States.  North American, yes.  South American, certainly.  But never just "American".  Kind of like how Israel is on the continent of Asia, but many people would be real confused if someone from Tel Aviv was referred to as an Asian.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20386 on: April 08, 2013, 12:18:39 PM »
Can we move the discussion of "USAians" to its own thread please?

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« Reply #20387 on: April 08, 2013, 12:22:24 PM »
The Spanish word for USians is a mouthful: estadounidense" (es-TAH-oh-oo-nih-DENSE-ay).

It literally tranlastes as "United Statesian." 
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« Reply #20388 on: April 08, 2013, 12:45:37 PM »
I've seen the term "USian" a lot but I've very rarely heard it spoken.  When it was it was pronounced as if you say the letters U-S-E-N.  I agree with others that I don't see it as particularly offensive.

Now, for my SS story of the day, I was at the grocery in the express line buying several items but visibly well below the limit for the lane.  I unloaded my stuff on the belt, and then someone stepped up beside me (the express lane didn't have anything to one side of it so he approached directly from the side) and put a loaf of bread on top of my stuff on the belt.  His excuse when I asked him why he did that was, "I'm in a hurry."  When the cashier put his item aside, he started to grouse until she told him he'd have to wait or leave.

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« Reply #20389 on: April 08, 2013, 01:40:16 PM »
USians isn't a familiar term to me either, but the meaning was immediately apparent.  Probably preferable to 'Yanks'. ;D

I've heard the term but it isn't preferable to 'Yanks'. 'USians' carries the connotation of being users.  It says that we use the rest of the world and contribute nothing. That isn't true and I don't like it.  No one here uses that term to describe their country of birth or residence.

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« Reply #20390 on: April 08, 2013, 01:45:23 PM »
USians isn't a familiar term to me either, but the meaning was immediately apparent.  Probably preferable to 'Yanks'. ;D

I've heard the term but it isn't preferable to 'Yanks'. 'USians' carries the connotation of being users.  It says that we use the rest of the world and contribute nothing. That isn't true and I don't like it.  No one here uses that term to describe their country of birth or residence.

I never read it like Usians, but like You-Ess-ians.  On the other hand, I do dislike "Yanks", but maybe that's because I'm from the northern states and have heard it used in a derogatory way by some from the southern US.

And while I don't say "I'm a USian", I do say "I'm from the US", rather than "I'm an American".
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« Reply #20391 on: April 08, 2013, 01:59:58 PM »
Thanks for the info, I'm American and haven't heard that term.  Honestly, it seems dismissive to call a group of people something they don't call themselves.
I've heard and seen plenty of people from the US use the term--I have.

Totally new one on me, too - I office in Florida and New York, and spend a lot of time in DC as well, if that matters.
I've lived all over the country and travel extensively for work and never heard the term USians in my life.

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« Reply #20392 on: April 08, 2013, 02:06:53 PM »
USians isn't a familiar term to me either, but the meaning was immediately apparent.  Probably preferable to 'Yanks'. ;D

I've heard the term but it isn't preferable to 'Yanks'. 'USians' carries the connotation of being users.  It says that we use the rest of the world and contribute nothing. That isn't true and I don't like it.  No one here uses that term to describe their country of birth or residence.

Wow.  I don't think it has such a dreadful connotation just because it has a couple of the same letters!

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20393 on: April 08, 2013, 02:07:16 PM »
I've only seen USian here, but I do like it better than "Yank" or "Yankee," both of which have connotations to the US Civil War.

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After reading the thread on word pronunciations, this made me start singing "This lane is your lane, this lane is my lane . . ."

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« Reply #20394 on: April 08, 2013, 02:14:52 PM »
USians isn't a familiar term to me either, but the meaning was immediately apparent.  Probably preferable to 'Yanks'. ;D

I've heard the term but it isn't preferable to 'Yanks'. 'USians' carries the connotation of being users.  It says that we use the rest of the world and contribute nothing. That isn't true and I don't like it.  No one here uses that term to describe their country of birth or residence.

Where did that interpretation come from? I've never heard that connotation before you wrote it here.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20395 on: April 08, 2013, 02:18:25 PM »
Thanks for the info, I'm American and haven't heard that term.  Honestly, it seems dismissive to call a group of people something they don't call themselves.
I've heard and seen plenty of people from the US use the term--I have.
I'm not American, but I have a lot of American friends who use it about themselves,I've only ever seen it used in writing, not in speech. Mostly as shorthand on-line, if that helps.

Certainly not intended as dismissive or confusing. Other than in Thipu's post I've never heard of it being used as pejorative or suggesting the US uses others, it certainly wasn't meant that way!
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20396 on: April 08, 2013, 02:21:26 PM »
USians isn't a familiar term to me either, but the meaning was immediately apparent.  Probably preferable to 'Yanks'. ;D

I've heard the term but it isn't preferable to 'Yanks'. 'USians' carries the connotation of being users.  It says that we use the rest of the world and contribute nothing. That isn't true and I don't like it.  No one here uses that term to describe their country of birth or residence.

Where did that interpretation come from? I've never heard that connotation before you wrote it here.

Perhaps the PP thinks it's pronounced 'usians', as it's written, when the capitals should make it fairly clear that it's prounounced 'You-Ess-ians'.


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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20397 on: April 08, 2013, 02:22:54 PM »
USians isn't a familiar term to me either, but the meaning was immediately apparent.  Probably preferable to 'Yanks'. ;D

I've heard the term but it isn't preferable to 'Yanks'. 'USians' carries the connotation of being users.  It says that we use the rest of the world and contribute nothing. That isn't true and I don't like it.  No one here uses that term to describe their country of birth or residence.

I live in the American west and have never had a problem with 'Yank'.

I never read it like Usians, but like You-Ess-ians.  On the other hand, I do dislike "Yanks", but maybe that's because I'm from the northern states and have heard it used in a derogatory way by some from the southern US.

And while I don't say "I'm a USian", I do say "I'm from the US", rather than "I'm an American".

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20398 on: April 08, 2013, 02:31:12 PM »
hey guys. We were asked to take the USians converstaion to another thread. Lets not get this one shut down also for people going off topic.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20399 on: April 08, 2013, 03:37:58 PM »
I'm sure that DS's teacher thought I was a SS today.

DS missed most of last week as he was being treated for whooping cough and what we thought was pink eye. But the preschool program is separate from the school, so I'm  not even sure that his teacher got the message I tried to leave with attendance. With 3 sick kids, I didn't put a lot of extra effort into hunting down the preschool teacher individually.

Today he went back to class, and the aide told me that DS wasn't feeling well, he's been coughing a lot and I might want to have his eye looked at. I had written a note this morning explaining that he's finished his treatment but that the cough will persist for a while, and that the eye goop isn't actually pink eye. So while he looks terrible, he's not contagious at all. Except DS left his backpack, with the note, in DH's car this morning.

So it looked to the teacher like I sent a very sick boy to school to get everyone else sick  :(
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