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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #21105 on: May 20, 2013, 09:18:31 PM »
The OP in the pregnant lady story is in Australia, and subsequent posts have discussed some of the financial issues and why her doctor needed to get money upfront. I'd suggest any discussion of the situation be done on that web site, rather than here.

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« Reply #21106 on: May 20, 2013, 09:37:15 PM »
I think from the poster's spelling that she might not be in the US - not that a doctor in any country would/should refuse to see a high risk patient due to billing issues, but there might be different rules around patient privacy, etc.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #21107 on: May 20, 2013, 09:57:03 PM »
Wouldn't the treatment be covered by Medicare? This sounds a little fishy. Unless she went to a private hospital she should not have been charged for the treatment, as far as I'm aware.

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« Reply #21108 on: May 20, 2013, 11:13:59 PM »
Wouldn't the treatment be covered by Medicare? This sounds a little fishy. Unless she went to a private hospital she should not have been charged for the treatment, as far as I'm aware.

She's seeing a lot of specialists which don't bulk bill.

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« Reply #21109 on: May 21, 2013, 12:26:22 AM »
.......... I cannot BELIEVE that a woman who had lost one twin and was having contractions putting the other twin at risk, would be refused by her OB. I sure wouldn't want such an OB- will the doctor actually show up for the delivery? Or if she does, will she show up with a credit card machine and announce that she won't deliver without payment in full?

I'm not sure that I believe this either.  Wouldn't a condition like this require hospitalization? 

Does anyone actually verify that the stories on that site are true?
Yeah, I wondered about it too. When my SIL didn't have insurance, they asked for payment before being seen, but were willing to see her if they could get her to sign a higher bill (basically, gave her a "discount" for paying in cash up front, vs. sending a bill). My current OB gives me an up front quote at the beginning of pregnancy, for a healthy pregnancy and gives me months (the full pregnancy) to pay it off, with extra months at the end if something unexpected occurs with extra billings.  I can't imagine an OB refusing to see a woman carrying a dead or dying fetus, money or no money. Billings and collections can occur later, once the doctor has provided his/her service.

If it is true, I sincerely hope she sits herself down in ER until the OB on call is brought in and reassigned to her. ER is for emergencies, a dying baby is an emergency.

It's all a little much for me to swallow. If it's true, I feel horrible for this woman. If it's not, shame on her.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #21110 on: May 21, 2013, 01:46:11 AM »
Wouldn't the treatment be covered by Medicare? This sounds a little fishy. Unless she went to a private hospital she should not have been charged for the treatment, as far as I'm aware.

She's seeing a lot of specialists which don't bulk bill.

But hospital? Wouldn't she be covered under the public system?

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« Reply #21111 on: May 21, 2013, 02:10:02 AM »
.......... I cannot BELIEVE that a woman who had lost one twin and was having contractions putting the other twin at risk, would be refused by her OB. I sure wouldn't want such an OB- will the doctor actually show up for the delivery? Or if she does, will she show up with a credit card machine and announce that she won't deliver without payment in full?

I'm not sure that I believe this either.  Wouldn't a condition like this require hospitalization? 

Does anyone actually verify that the stories on that site are true?
Yeah, I wondered about it too. When my SIL didn't have insurance, they asked for payment before being seen, but were willing to see her if they could get her to sign a higher bill (basically, gave her a "discount" for paying in cash up front, vs. sending a bill). My current OB gives me an up front quote at the beginning of pregnancy, for a healthy pregnancy and gives me months (the full pregnancy) to pay it off, with extra months at the end if something unexpected occurs with extra billings.  I can't imagine an OB refusing to see a woman carrying a dead or dying fetus, money or no money. Billings and collections can occur later, once the doctor has provided his/her service.

If it is true, I sincerely hope she sits herself down in ER until the OB on call is brought in and reassigned to her. ER is for emergencies, a dying baby is an emergency.

It's all a little much for me to swallow. If it's true, I feel horrible for this woman. If it's not, shame on her.

The cynical me is having trouble believing her story if for no other reason then I went to her blog and there is a lot of "please help me pay my bills" along with links to her donation site. Not saying that legit people don't beg but it does make me wonder...

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #21112 on: May 21, 2013, 02:46:39 AM »
Wouldn't the treatment be covered by Medicare? This sounds a little fishy. Unless she went to a private hospital she should not have been charged for the treatment, as far as I'm aware.

She's seeing a lot of specialists which don't bulk bill.

But hospital? Wouldn't she be covered under the public system?

Hmmmm, when I was poor and had a high risk pregnancy I didn't pay a single red cent for my and DD's care, and I was seen by one of the top obstetricians in my region. If you go through the public system for something non-urgent you may wait literally *years* to see a specialist for free, but for a pregnancy you would have to elect to go private before this situation would arise barring some bizarre concatenation of circumstances.
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« Reply #21113 on: May 21, 2013, 04:13:45 AM »
Wouldn't the treatment be covered by Medicare? This sounds a little fishy. Unless she went to a private hospital she should not have been charged for the treatment, as far as I'm aware.

Aussie here. I know there are people who have very serious medical issues that aren't adequately supported by medicare - but I know several women that have gone through supremely high-risk pregnancies - and charged it all to medicare.

That woman's blog is a serious money-spinning attempt. Every post...!!!

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #21114 on: May 21, 2013, 04:59:03 AM »
Unfortunately I am pretty sure this poster is scamming. I am in Australia too like Iris and Awestruck, and Medicare would pay for any treatment (unless you decided that you needed the scans without a referral from a doctor). I have seen some of her other posts and her blog and pretty much every single thing is asking for money.

Back on topic....

I would like to nominate my real estate agent. I am due to have a rental inspection tomorrow. This means I have spent the last 3 days getting the house and yard looking schmick.

 Last inspection was cancelled 3 times. On the 4th time she rang from out the front of the house and wanted to reschedule as she didn't have keys. Then when I said the back door wasn't locked and she could go in that way, my Silky Terrier was 'dangerous looking' and she didn't want to enter the yard even though Lucy was on a chain. I bailed out of work and let her in past the 'evil, vicious' dogs (a silky terrier and a Labrador who are total sweethearts).

 I had a missed call today asking if they have permission to use keys (the very same permission I sent last week), but after 3 return calls and an email still haven't had a response.... sigh... I hate this company..





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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #21115 on: May 21, 2013, 06:02:24 AM »
Wouldn't the treatment be covered by Medicare? This sounds a little fishy. Unless she went to a private hospital she should not have been charged for the treatment, as far as I'm aware.

She's seeing a lot of specialists which don't bulk bill.

But hospital? Wouldn't she be covered under the public system?

Hmmmm, when I was poor and had a high risk pregnancy I didn't pay a single red cent for my and DD's care, and I was seen by one of the top obstetricians in my region. If you go through the public system for something non-urgent you may wait literally *years* to see a specialist for free, but for a pregnancy you would have to elect to go private before this situation would arise barring some bizarre concatenation of circumstances.

now that I think about it your probably right. all my pregnancies are considered high risk due my history ( 2 prems, 1 with gestational diabetes and hypertension. This one I'm barely controlling my blood pressure).  The most I've had to pay was about $300 (which were for elective procedures) and I got rebated 60% of it back from Medicare. Also most hospitals with a neonatal units (which she would need and most specialists would be attached to them) would be public.

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« Reply #21116 on: May 21, 2013, 06:51:33 AM »
I also gather, since she's frequenting US boards which have no idea how our health care system works and she can get their sympathies and money.

I looked at her blog, she mentioned employer funded health insurance which is an anomaly here.

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« Reply #21117 on: May 21, 2013, 07:02:32 AM »
Other things she's said indicate she would be more than eligible for several hundred dollars per week of CenterLink money (welfare). A pregnant woman unable to work due to health complications? She already fits the requirements for three different CentreLink schemes, and that's without knowing any further details of her personal life (through which she may be eligible for more). More than enough for food, petrol, bills, and doctors (where everything she describes is basically entirely covered with Medicare, so it wouldn't dig into her budget). Oh, and if you get any one payment from CentreLink, you are automatically able to get Rent Assist, which is what it sounds like.

So her going on about how she can't afford to pay her bills and having to pay before being allowed to see the doctor is very much made up so that people who don't know how the system works in Australia will give her pity money. It doesn't add up even closely to what the truth would be.

It's disgusting.

She picked up on people giving her sympathy at her first story (which may have been entirely made up, given how obviously her second one is full of it), and is trying to use the same scheme to get money. Sick.



Back on topic: I was at a restaurant last night, where a guy at the table next door ordered steak. He then got upset when he found out half-way through that steak isn't vegetarian (the menu described it as coming from beef very specifically and obviously). I think he was trying to be vegetarian but didn't understand what it entailed. The poor waiter. We were extra nice to him (it's rude to tip here) and put in a good word for how well he withstood the idiotic abuse.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #21118 on: May 21, 2013, 07:28:15 AM »
I have a mind to join that board and point out how she is fraudulently playing on people's sympathies, but I won't. She's not the first, nor the last, fraudulent mummy blogger.

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« Reply #21119 on: May 21, 2013, 07:38:13 AM »
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that story rang a bit false.  I can't see an OB worth their salt turning someone down in that situation.

Both of the stories rang false to me, honestly.