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« Reply #23280 on: September 05, 2013, 11:57:34 AM »
So...when her kids are out of college and she presumably no longer has any expenses (?), she can take a lower paying job to let someone else have her job?

1.  Sure.  I'll totally believe that.   ::)

2. So by her logic, isn't she just going to 'swipe' a job from an entry level worker?

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« Reply #23281 on: September 05, 2013, 12:44:38 PM »
Snowflakes that only want wedding registry gifts will apparently write columns to get the word out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lori-fradkin/wedding-registry-apology_b_3824199.html?utm_hp_ref=weddings&ir=Weddings

Although the worst one I've seen was 10 years ago, where someone in a bridal magazine said "Oh, I thought I was being so clever and thoughtful when I was single and gifting my friends with a fun board game or a waffle iron + some breakfast related items. I didn't realize how inconsiderate and thoughtless I was, how much trouble the bride had gone through to pick out her list." ::)

I'm not as annoyed with this article as I usually am about registries. She does acknowlege that they aren't then definitive list and she does stand by her decision to buy off the registry at times.

I thought what she was primarily intending to say was "If I put the Wusthoff knife set on my registry, don't buy the J Henckel's because you think they are a better brand." or if I registered for the Kate Spade decanter, don't buy the Waterford because you like Waterford better."

That's what I was thinking too. As I see it she is saying that when people go off registry to gift something they think the couple will like based on personal knowledge, it's fine and toughfull. But When people go off the registry to gift something similar to an item in the registry, they are putting their own taste above the couple, and that can be a bit preachy.

Sometimes the situation warrant it, like you know that couple put thingamabob from brand A on their registry, even if they would have liked brand B, but knew brand B to be so expensive they were just happy to have a thingamabob either way, and not burden a guest with the price of brand B.
Then yeah, get them brand B if you want.
But don't assume they'll be happy to have brand D when their entire collection of Stuff is from brand C, just because you like brand D best.

But like anything it gets complicated if you can only afford another brand but would really really like to get them a Whatsit, and never considered they would be bothered by a competitor's Whatsit. They did 'ask' for a Whatsit afterall.

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« Reply #23282 on: September 05, 2013, 01:22:27 PM »
Years ago I used to subscribe to a blog written by a library student. (Once she got a job, she took it down.)  One of the sections allowed librarians to air grievances and one young whippersnapper let loose on "older" librarians, how selfish we were not to retire in our forties and let younger librarians move up the food chain and get promotions.

In partial defense of this sort of dingbattery, I'll note that "The current crop of librarians is about to retire and your future is assured!" has been heavily used as a recruiting tactic by some, possibly many, MLS programs for awhile now. It's certainly what they told me when I started working towards my MLS ten years ago, and I don't think it was new then. Anyone who wholeheartedly believes the assertions of any organization that is desperate for their money deserves what they get, but this attitude likely isn't something she came to completely on her own.

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« Reply #23283 on: September 05, 2013, 01:29:45 PM »
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I plan to take a less stressful job (and thus less pay), so a younger person can have my job to support a family.
That sounds familiar. Take the Wayback Machine to about 50 years ago.

I plan to A woman should take a less stressful job (and thus less pay), so a younger person man can have my her job to support a family.

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« Reply #23284 on: September 05, 2013, 02:44:33 PM »
I know there are others here who do remember when all lesser paying jobs were designated for women because the job classifieds in the newspapers--which is where everything was in the pre-Internet age of the 1970s and earlier--were listed by Jobs for Men and Jobs for Women.

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« Reply #23285 on: September 05, 2013, 02:47:30 PM »
I know there are others here who do remember when all lesser paying jobs were designated for women because the job classifieds in the newspapers--which is where everything was in the pre-Internet age of the 1970s and earlier--were listed by Jobs for Men and Jobs for Women.

And even today, jobs which have historically been held largely by women (think nurses, school teachers, childcare workers, librarians) are sometimes referred to as "pink-collar jobs".

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« Reply #23286 on: September 05, 2013, 02:50:16 PM »
True, MindsEye. There's aren't official gender categories on any job sites, just silent ones in the workplace. :-\

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« Reply #23287 on: September 05, 2013, 02:52:53 PM »
. . . she then goes on to say that when HER kids are out of college, she plans to take a less-stressful, lower paying job so that a young person can have HER job to support their family.
She makes my snarky comment typing fingers itch.  I refrained, but it was difficult.
The thought that came into my head was, "Well, goody goody for you".  I really really want to say it. 
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« Reply #23288 on: September 05, 2013, 03:03:58 PM »
That's what I was thinking too. As I see it she is saying that when people go off registry to gift something they think the couple will like based on personal knowledge, it's fine and toughfull. But When people go off the registry to gift something similar to an item in the registry, they are putting their own taste above the couple, and that can be a bit preachy.

 

I agree. I've done this plenty of times. Mainly when I was broke, and most of the stuff on the registry was either already purchased, or what was left was way out of my budget. But in doing that, I never bought item A, which was maybe similar to item B they had on their registry, but half the price, and therefore, in my budget. I just got something I thought/hoped would be useful to the HC, perhaps something they hadn't actually thougtht of, but knowing them, knew might come in handy.

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« Reply #23289 on: September 05, 2013, 10:43:05 PM »
Tonight was "meet the teacher /open house" at Boo's school. I swear it's "Special Snowflake in training" central. There were three moms standing in the road / driveway chatting as people were trying to get into the parking lot. They could have walked 3 steps over to the sidewalk, but instead chose to stand right in the road. And since there are bushes lining the one side (blocking the playground from the street) anyone tepid ing left into the parking lot couldn't see them until they had pulled in - causing the drivers to have to slam on their brakes to avoid hitting the Chatting Snowflakes

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« Reply #23290 on: September 05, 2013, 11:07:56 PM »
On my route into college I ran across some of the most specialist snowflakes ----the bus driver and the kids who were supposed to be getting off the bus. One kid standing in the aisle of the bus chatting away, the bus driver was giving the finger to the drivers beeping as the light changed not once, but three times before the child finished his  conversation and allowed the bus to continue on.  Three light changes.
 Then the driver turns off his lights and instead of signalling that he is turning into traffic and waiting for a break - he pulls out at such a sharp angle that he takes up two lanes in doing so.

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« Reply #23291 on: September 06, 2013, 01:34:52 AM »
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I plan to take a less stressful job (and thus less pay), so a younger person can have my job to support a family.
That sounds familiar. Take the Wayback Machine to about 50 years ago.

I plan to A woman should take a less stressful job (and thus less pay), so a younger person man can have my her job to support a family.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I read that letter!     The assumption that anybody should give up a satisfying career because somebody else "deserves" it more, based solely on demographic factors rather than merit.    It's never right whether it's ageism, sexism, racism or any other kind of crazy generalisation.   

I love my job, and I'll quit it when I want to.  That might mean when I'm 40 it might mean when I'm 90.    But really, does she think I'm going to become a receptionist or a data entry operator just so that somebody else can have my job running the company?? Or am I supposed to swap jobs with the person directly below me?  Or retire completely?  I'm just not sure practically how her theory would function.  Does she want socialist job allocation?   

The letter writer sounds like a fairly unintelligent person with a very idealistic and simplistic view of "Oh the poor kids out of college can't find jobs, why won't everybody else quit and give them a chance?"  without thinking through the actual practical implications, or the real cause of the issue.     
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« Reply #23292 on: September 06, 2013, 07:03:00 AM »
From today's dear abby - first letter. Not quite sure if she's an SS or not, but her attitude is, at least to me!

http://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/

Basically, a woman berating "older" workers for hanging onto their jobs, to support their lavish lifestyles, and preventing younger workers from advancing, and even being laid off. she then goes on to say that when HER kids are out of college, she plans to take a less-stressful, lower paying job so that a young person can have HER job to support their family.

DA basically told her, try and be less judgmental, as many "older" folks are not working to support their luxeries, but simply to survive.  Is it wrong of me to hope that karma bites her, and she too needs to continue working longer to simply survive?????

I have a best friend and aunt-in-law who have both said they aren't sure if they'll ever be able to retire, and one's closing in on 60, the other isn't quite 50 yet.  Neither of them are living lavishly, just trying to make ends meet.   One is single so it's not like she can depend on a husband's income, and in the case of AIL, she and UIL are both working hard to try and make ends meet and my friend is talking about trying to at least go part time but she doesn't think she'll be able to stop working. 

So both would be SOL if someone pushed them out of their jobs due to their age.
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« Reply #23293 on: September 06, 2013, 07:59:41 AM »
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I plan to take a less stressful job (and thus less pay), so a younger person can have my job to support a family.
That sounds familiar. Take the Wayback Machine to about 50 years ago.

I plan to A woman should take a less stressful job (and thus less pay), so a younger person man can have my her job to support a family.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I read that letter!     The assumption that anybody should give up a satisfying career because somebody else "deserves" it more, based solely on demographic factors rather than merit.    It's never right whether it's ageism, sexism, racism or any other kind of crazy generalisation.   


Heck, I was thinking about in terms of the integration of major league baseball. There were times, even after Jackie Robinson, where the attitude from management was that they'd take a black player, but he'd better be a superstar, because a mediocre black player was only taking a job away from a deserving white player.

It's wrong any way you look at it.

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« Reply #23294 on: September 06, 2013, 08:29:23 AM »
A few years ago I was waiting outside the elementary school, waiting for my sons, when I heard one guy griping about Justin Bieber and the (redacted) Canadians and other immigrants coming in to take jobs away from Americans.

Mind you, this guy had told me that he was first generation Irish-American and while I didn't say anything, I couldn't help but wonder if this guy knew about the "No Irish Need Apply" signs that were up around the time my ancestors came over from Eire.
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