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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24690 on: December 03, 2013, 05:40:53 PM »
Ran into the local big box hardware store last night, a man was standing in an aisle looking at something, with a small dog in his arms. I thought of this thread. It's not the first time that I've seen dogs there either.
Why would a dog in a hardware store be a problem?  Was it bothering you?

We rescued Honey Girl this last Memorial Day.  We are socializing her by taking her with us everywhere dogs are welcome.  Obviously (at least it is obvious to me) that excludes anywhere food is prepared, served, or consumed.  Office supply stores, clothing stores, hardware stores, shoe stores - all have told us that we are welcome to bring Honey Girl back for a visit anytime.  She entertains children waiting in line and they fuss less.

I sometimes walk Honey Girl to the nearby public library to return my books.  The first time I decided to pick up a library book while walking HG, I carried her.  I know the librarians.  They all wanted to pet and coo over HG.  They, too, invited her back.  Being conscious of the restriction that only service animals are supposed to be in the library, I carry her.  I don't put her down on the counter.  She doesn't touch anything in the library.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24691 on: December 03, 2013, 05:53:25 PM »
There are, conversely, people who refuse to serve people with service animals.

http://www.hospitalitymagazine.com.au/accommodation/motel-breaches-discrimination-law-with-guide-dog-r
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/blind-paralympian-sue-ellen-lovett-asked-to-leave-restaurants-because-of-guide-dog/story-e6freuzi-1226273120581
http://www.baysidebulletin.com.au/story/1738423/oversight-leads-to-guide-dog-discrimination/?cs=12

I remember discussing this with some friends and one of them said she understood why they were refused service despite the fact that doing so is against the law.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24692 on: December 03, 2013, 05:57:50 PM »
This may have been posted here before, but the self-righteous vegan stories reminded me of the post. It's got to be one of my favorite PAN of all time.

Where the roommate decides to become a vegan, and will no longer tolerate animal products in the shared house:
http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/07/06/self-righteous-vegan/
Notice, that says ROOMMATE, not mother, not landlord, not anyone that has any right to demand a roommate change her diet.

Where the same vegan tries to make a cat live on a vegan diet, but the cat does not consent:
http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2012/02/05/hard-out-there-for-a-vegan-cat/


I've seen the first one before, but that second one... wow. Thank goodness she took the cat to a vet to find out that a vegan diet would mean starvation for the poor animal. And the language she uses is pretty patronising. "Since you have a primitive diet, would you mind adopting it? Do any of your little meat-eating friends want a cat?" What a great friend to have   ::)

I actually had to discuss with a new dog owner that, although there are *vegetarian* dog food options out there, his best bet was to NOT attempt to transition his new pet to a vegetarian/vegan diet.  Cue discussion about teeth, biology, carnivorous canines, etc.   :o
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24693 on: December 03, 2013, 06:01:59 PM »
Okay, before someone says we need to take the raccoon stories off this thread, I have to tell about the super special snowflake raccoons in my little part of the world.

To commence: nothing bothered them.  Nothing.  My family had a garden in which we grew corn for the local dairy farmers (all of them related to us somehow).  The raccoons would settle right down in the middle of the field and chow down no matter what Dad did.

...snipped...

I don't want one for a pet, not ever, but I have respect for the little monsters and can't help admiring them.

Stories like this always remind me of the Calvin Trillin's essay when he was trying to keep raccoons out of the garbage in their weekend cottage. He asked an old-timer, who suggested a combination lock, saying, "Them's smart critters, but they got no head for numbers."

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24694 on: December 03, 2013, 06:03:03 PM »
Ran into the local big box hardware store last night, a man was standing in an aisle looking at something, with a small dog in his arms. I thought of this thread. It's not the first time that I've seen dogs there either.
Why would a dog in a hardware store be a problem?  Was it bothering you?

We rescued Honey Girl this last Memorial Day.  We are socializing her by taking her with us everywhere dogs are welcome.  Obviously (at least it is obvious to me) that excludes anywhere food is prepared, served, or consumed.  Office supply stores, clothing stores, hardware stores, shoe stores - all have told us that we are welcome to bring Honey Girl back for a visit anytime.  She entertains children waiting in line and they fuss less.

I sometimes walk Honey Girl to the nearby public library to return my books.  The first time I decided to pick up a library book while walking HG, I carried her.  I know the librarians.  They all wanted to pet and coo over HG.  They, too, invited her back.  Being conscious of the restriction that only service animals are supposed to be in the library, I carry her.  I don't put her down on the counter.  She doesn't touch anything in the library.

If Honey Girl was bigger, and you couldn't carry her, would you still expect to just be able to bring her wherever you wanted so long as food wasn't being sold?

My dogs dislike being carried and they aren't really small enough to carry about (20lbs for one and 17lbs for the other), I'd love to take them with me into stores, they'd love to go into stores, they adore people (especially children) and are very sweet. But they don't go into stores, except for pet stores (like Petsmart). They are also rescue dogs, and have been properly socialized by going where doggies are supposed to go. Not to wherever I go. I wouldn't just walk in with them and expect it to be ok. When people carry dogs into places they're deciding it's acceptable to carry in their small dog where a larger (still friendly) dog would not be welcomed. Because it's small.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24695 on: December 03, 2013, 06:35:55 PM »
Ran into the local big box hardware store last night, a man was standing in an aisle looking at something, with a small dog in his arms. I thought of this thread. It's not the first time that I've seen dogs there either.

I worked at a big box hardware store for two years. There was signage on all doors that pets were not allowed. It was up to the manager on duty to escort the people and their pets outside.


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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24696 on: December 03, 2013, 06:49:43 PM »
Even if the librarians welcomed her... The restriction is there for a reason. I do find it very special when dog owners flout the rule! I personally am allergic to dogs so I appreciate when both businesses and dog owners can follow the rules (if in place).

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24697 on: December 03, 2013, 06:52:13 PM »
Ran into the local big box hardware store last night, a man was standing in an aisle looking at something, with a small dog in his arms. I thought of this thread. It's not the first time that I've seen dogs there either.

I worked at a big box hardware store for two years. There was signage on all doors that pets were not allowed. It was up to the manager on duty to escort the people and their pets outside.
I would not take a pet into a store if there was a sign posted on the door stating that pets were not allowed.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24698 on: December 03, 2013, 06:59:29 PM »
Even if the librarians welcomed her... The restriction is there for a reason. I do find it very special when dog owners flout the rule! I personally am allergic to dogs so I appreciate when both businesses and dog owners can follow the rules (if in place).
If you are allergic, standing next to me will probably have the same effect as standing next to my dog.  Her hair is all over me.  Heck, I found my cat hair in my desk drawer, in my office, where my cat has never been.  Service dogs are welcome, so you will still be exposed to dog hair/dander/allergens when you enter my library.  It is also the library for the blind, so there is usually a service dog present.

You won't be exposed to my dog because I am in & out in 2 minutes.  We don't wait in line (we go when it isn't busy or wait outside).  No other library patrons get anywhere near her.  HG is too cute to leave tied up at the door.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24699 on: December 03, 2013, 07:08:24 PM »
Many years ago I lived in Northern California and had a 75 pound Golden Retriever/White Shepard mix (female) named GingerBear.  She went everywhere with me, except food stores.  When I divorced that husband, he asked to keep the dog.  I heard that he also took her everywhere, including restaurants and food stores.  Apparently there was a scene in a restaurant where GingerBear was sitting in a chair eating off a plate on the table and another customer objected.  The restaurant owner told the other customer that he was welcome to leave and not return because GB was always welcome.

I was appalled. :o

This was over 20 years ago.  I was not an ehellion back then.  There was a different culture in that small town, very dog friendly.  At least it was a small enough town that I could tie GB up in front of the store/restaurant and she would be there when I came out, probably with a couple kids.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24700 on: December 03, 2013, 07:14:49 PM »
When people carry dogs into places they're deciding it's acceptable to carry in their small dog where a larger (still friendly) dog would not be welcomed. Because it's small.
I'm not going to defend those people.  I'm not one of them, but they don't bother me.  I saw a couple with a tiny (4 pound) dog inside a zipped "pooch purse" in my local Target store, which sells food.  The reason I did not have a problem with the dog is that the dog touched nothing in the store.  She was at all times enclosed in her carrier.  She made no noise or mess.

I have been in grocery stores and seen children do unsanitary things to food, including grabbing bakery bread (not wrapped in plastic) and getting their grubby, filthy fingers all over the bread, pawing over produce, etc.  I would rather see a pocket pooch inside a carrier than a child running wild in a grocery store.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24701 on: December 03, 2013, 08:02:35 PM »
Ran into the local big box hardware store last night, a man was standing in an aisle looking at something, with a small dog in his arms. I thought of this thread. It's not the first time that I've seen dogs there either.

I worked at a big box hardware store for two years. There was signage on all doors that pets were not allowed. It was up to the manager on duty to escort the people and their pets outside.
I would not take a pet into a store if there was a sign posted on the door stating that pets were not allowed.

But you're saying you're taking your dog into a place where only service dogs are allowed. So you are flouting the rules. With the librarians' blessings, clearly, but your actions seem to be contradicting your words.

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« Reply #24702 on: December 03, 2013, 08:31:37 PM »
Ran into the local big box hardware store last night, a man was standing in an aisle looking at something, with a small dog in his arms. I thought of this thread. It's not the first time that I've seen dogs there either.

I worked at a big box hardware store for two years. There was signage on all doors that pets were not allowed. It was up to the manager on duty to escort the people and their pets outside.
I would not take a pet into a store if there was a sign posted on the door stating that pets were not allowed.

But you're saying you're taking your dog into a place where only service dogs are allowed. So you are flouting the rules. With the librarians' blessings, clearly, but your actions seem to be contradicting your words.
There's no sign on the door saying "no pets."  That's what I meant; That's what I said.  I've explained how and why and I'm not going to JADE anymore.  Attack at will.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24703 on: December 03, 2013, 09:03:54 PM »
You're not doing anything wrong, Midnight Kitty.  If dogs are welcome, they're welcome.  If it says only service pets, I know you'll abide by those rules.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24704 on: December 03, 2013, 09:33:32 PM »
Sigh. Move on.
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