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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24735 on: December 08, 2013, 12:44:04 AM »
This bride-to-be ended a column about wedding prices by taking a swipe at other brides. The last sentence is such a gem  ::)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/magazine/the-wedding-fix-is-in.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24736 on: December 08, 2013, 02:02:46 AM »
This bride-to-be ended a column about wedding prices by taking a swipe at other brides. The last sentence is such a gem  ::)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/magazine/the-wedding-fix-is-in.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0

I thought that was an excellent article about economics.   

She's right - bridezillas who are willing to pay anything for their perfect day does mean that there is a perception that vendors can charge a premium for weddings, even when supplying the same services.  I've also read elsewhere that some vendors justify the extra pricing simply because of the hassle of dealing with bridezillas!

I don't see anything special snowflakey about that article at all.
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« Reply #24737 on: December 08, 2013, 02:15:12 AM »
But does wanting to have blue napkins make someone a bridezilla? It might make them victims of consumerism or really detail-oriented but if that's bridezilla then anyone who cares about any detail of their wedding would be one.

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« Reply #24738 on: December 08, 2013, 02:29:59 AM »
I had some extremely specific desires and requirements for my wedding. I guess in her eyes, that makes me a bridezilla even though I didn't throw any tantrums about it... and holding out for what I really wanted instead of accepting something that was mostly OK actually saved me quite a lot of money in the end. ;)
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« Reply #24739 on: December 08, 2013, 05:23:16 AM »
But does wanting to have blue napkins make someone a bridezilla? It might make them victims of consumerism or really detail-oriented but if that's bridezilla then anyone who cares about any detail of their wedding would be one.

I didn't think she was suggesting that having a colour preference - or in fact any preferences about your wedding day - made a person a bridezilla, it was just another example of how the costing works and that being less flexible / more customised means more money.    It's not bridezilla to want a specific napkin type.  It would be bridezilla to have a 100% definite view on how each and every specific detail of the wedding should be AND be willing to bankrupt yourself/fiancÚ/parents or throw a gigantic tantrum to create the exact vision you had pictured.   I think her point was that for *most* other events there would be more compromise, but the whole "it's myyyy daaaay" mentality means that they can charge more, because they convince people that because it's your wedding you should spend double to get the perfect shade of blue instead of just everyday blue.   Even though most of us don't feel that way at all - we have ideas about how our wedding should be, but we end up compromising on *some* details.   I say this as somebody who had many very specific views on my wedding, and sadly had to compromise on some details - although it was still an amazing church wedding, formal sit down dinner for 180 guests, and a very Cinderella gown that I flew internationally to purchase!  It was big budget and great. So I'm certainly not one of those people who enjoys mocking big weddings. I had one, loved it, and don't regret a cent we spent  :)   But I wasn't a bridezilla, I accepted that there were some tiny things that I had to compromise on to keep the budget under control.  (And free up more money for the things that were *really* important to me - and which cost more than they should because wedding costs are inflated.  >:(   I shopped around but it is true that some things cost more just because they're for a wedding!)

I can see how that connection could be made from what she wrote (between napkin choice and bridezillas), I just interpreted it very differently.     I honestly had to come back and double check the link after I read the article as I thought I must have read the wrong article!
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24740 on: December 08, 2013, 07:34:38 AM »
She says nothing about people who aren't willing to compromise, she just says that people who want something specific (and mentions just blue napkins, not even that they have to be a special shade) are bridezillas (as in people "who want their weddings to be the special day they always dreamed of") who are driving up the prices. Maybe your interpretation is what she means but I don't get that idea at all. Which is probably true, if you've always wanted your princess wedding then you're probably less likely to haggle or care about the price.

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« Reply #24741 on: December 08, 2013, 07:53:43 AM »
She says nothing about people who aren't willing to compromise, she just says that people who want something specific (and mentions just blue napkins, not even that they have to be a special shade) are bridezillas (as in people "who want their weddings to be the special day they always dreamed of") who are driving up the prices. Maybe your interpretation is what she means but I don't get that idea at all. Which is probably true, if you've always wanted your princess wedding then you're probably less likely to haggle or care about the price.

The bolded is what I thought the whole point of the article was.     Not necessarily a criticism of those of us who want a particular princess wedding (like I said, I had one!) just that this means vendors can justify a higher price.    Perhaps taking a dig at bridezillas at the end there undermined her point.    :)
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« Reply #24742 on: December 08, 2013, 04:00:53 PM »
I think the wedding industry itself is responsible for bridezillas, particularly when they rely so much on the emotional, wish-fulfilment side of having a perfect day. This is why some places are slow to tell you full prices, or even prices at all. It's also seen completely normal to fork out $1000+ on a wedding dress that you will only wear once. My entire outfit was less than that.

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« Reply #24743 on: December 08, 2013, 09:03:07 PM »
I am a big fan of Say Yes to the Dress Atlanta and SYTTD: Bridesmaids.  It is an education in human nature sometimes to watch these people interact (although I still hope to see a bridesmaid get fired).

I am not knocking people who want expensive dresses or big weddings, but after watching these two programs, I am very glad that I paid for my own wedding dress and I went alone to pick it out.
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« Reply #24744 on: December 09, 2013, 09:23:46 AM »
Last night, my family attended a Christmas program with a full orchestra, mass choir and a guest celebrity narrator. In order to attend, you had to have passes to the place where it was held and either pay extra for priority seating or wait in a 30 minute line for seats.

SS#1: Woman in front of me who either checked USA Today for updates on her phone while holding it up, so that was the only thing I could see the way the theatre seating is, tried (didn't seem to know how to and had to ask her husband or son for help) to take pictures constantly or sang off key the entire show.

SS Group: A group of teenagers that were roughhousing in the line, and knocked an elderly lady down, then did not apologize or help her up. Once they were seated behind us, they talked loudly the entire time.

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« Reply #24745 on: December 09, 2013, 10:59:46 AM »
This bride-to-be ended a column about wedding prices by taking a swipe at other brides. The last sentence is such a gem  ::)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/magazine/the-wedding-fix-is-in.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0

I thought that was an excellent article about economics.   

She's right - bridezillas who are willing to pay anything for their perfect day does mean that there is a perception that vendors can charge a premium for weddings, even when supplying the same services.  I've also read elsewhere that some vendors justify the extra pricing simply because of the hassle of dealing with bridezillas!

I don't see anything special snowflakey about that article at all.

I don't see the need to refer to someone as a bridezilla because they are willing to pay a premium for something they really want. I do think the law of supply and demand has taken over the industry some. But it also can mean that if your flexible then you can get discounts. Don't need the trendy blue cocktail napkins, then yeah for you, you can get the discount oragne ones. Prefer a Saturday wedding but willing to have a Sunday afternoon? Then yeah for you because you are going to get a great deal.

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« Reply #24746 on: December 09, 2013, 11:22:58 AM »
I was about the first person into Matalan this morning because ohmygoodfemaledeity I have so much to do today - if anybody asks if you've seen me, say no, because I totally do not have time to stop, drink a cup of tea and read on EHell, so plainly I'm not doing that - shot round the store, picked up the things I needed and legged it for the till. The Matalan tills are in a row along one wall, with a big S-bend funnel to get you past the things you can absolutely manage without whatever the sales staff think, and an electronic board telling you which cashier is free.

It's not even breakfast time, so there are only 2 tills open but you still have to walk through the bend. SS-There's-Nobody-Here-But-Me pushes her trolley into the funnel - which is one trolley width plus about 2 feet - and stops dead to do something with her phone. I come up behind her, all clacking heels because I'm in a hurry, but, you know, EHell expects and all that so I don't barge past or yell 'move it, dingbat!' I hesitate politely for fifteen seconds so that she can finish what she's doing. I don't know what it is - she's either hacking into MI5 or playing Candy Crush - but she isn't finishing it and getting a move on, so I ask her, in a perfectly polite tone, if she minds if I come past. She looks shocked, pockets her phone and sets off towards the till at a speed approximating to that of continental drift, casting an 'oh, sorry' back over her shoulder at me.

I might have rolled my eyes, but I trotted in her wake, and at the tills she turned one way and I turned the other to the two cashiers. I was done in three minutes, purchases under my arm and heading for the exit, which is at the other end of the line of tills. SS-TNHBM had her trolley set right across the aisle, and looked at me blankly when I came up, with a distinct expression of 'what? what do you want?' She seemed completely shocked when I set a hand on the trolley and asked 'may I just come through?' I don't know, maybe she was expecting me to hurdle the rack of sports socks instead?

I bet she's a joy when all 20 tills are in use.

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« Reply #24747 on: December 09, 2013, 12:53:04 PM »
I was about the first person into Matalan this morning because ohmygoodfemaledeity I have so much to do today - if anybody asks if you've seen me, say no, because I totally do not have time to stop, drink a cup of tea and read on EHell, so plainly I'm not doing that - shot round the store, picked up the things I needed and legged it for the till. The Matalan tills are in a row along one wall, with a big S-bend funnel to get you past the things you can absolutely manage without whatever the sales staff think, and an electronic board telling you which cashier is free.

It's not even breakfast time, so there are only 2 tills open but you still have to walk through the bend. SS-There's-Nobody-Here-But-Me pushes her trolley into the funnel - which is one trolley width plus about 2 feet - and stops dead to do something with her phone. I come up behind her, all clacking heels because I'm in a hurry, but, you know, EHell expects and all that so I don't barge past or yell 'move it, dingbat!' I hesitate politely for fifteen seconds so that she can finish what she's doing. I don't know what it is - she's either hacking into MI5 or playing Candy Crush - but she isn't finishing it and getting a move on, so I ask her, in a perfectly polite tone, if she minds if I come past. She looks shocked, pockets her phone and sets off towards the till at a speed approximating to that of continental drift, casting an 'oh, sorry' back over her shoulder at me.

I might have rolled my eyes, but I trotted in her wake, and at the tills she turned one way and I turned the other to the two cashiers. I was done in three minutes, purchases under my arm and heading for the exit, which is at the other end of the line of tills. SS-TNHBM had her trolley set right across the aisle, and looked at me blankly when I came up, with a distinct expression of 'what? what do you want?' She seemed completely shocked when I set a hand on the trolley and asked 'may I just come through?' I don't know, maybe she was expecting me to hurdle the rack of sports socks instead?

I bet she's a joy when all 20 tills are in use.

I really enjoyed reading this, you're a good writer!

Yesterday I was at Sam's Club with my son to pick up a few items* and when we got to the check-outs they were pretty full so we headed to the Self-check-outs. This guy had a big dolly full of stuff and positioned himself between the two regular Self-check-outs (the express Self-check-out was busy) so I waited behind him and he started dancing a little jig because he knew someone was behind him but he wanted to keep queuing. So I finally asked him, "Sir, which line are you in?"

To which he looked back at me and replied, "I don't know, I just want to get out of here." So a non-answer and he didn't move his dolly and his wife turned around so she didn't have to make eye contact with me.

As I was about to inform him that he needed to pick one so I could get in line (I swear I would have done it politely), my son noticed that the Express Self-check-out was empty and guided me to that, avoiding kerfuffle. DS and I dilly-dallied a little letting Queue Guy in front of me as we wheeled over to get our receipts highlighted.

Then DS left me at the pull-thru to get the vehicle so he could pick me and our things up. And who do I see drive past me? Queue Guy, studiously avoiding eye-contact. I actually said, out loud, 'This guys is always in my way,' as the pull-thru has a line and the person in front of you could technically keep you in the pull-thru (depending on how close you are to them) until they leave.

There was a happy ending as Queue Guy decided to drive past the end of the pull-thru and onto the sidewalk, thereby NOT blocking in anyone behind him.  ::)

*I asked my soon-to-be 18 yo son if he minded taking me to Sam's Club as I only needed one thing. After I put my tenth item in the cart, he mildly protested with "I thought you said you were only getting one thing?" I replied, deadpan, "When a woman tells you she's only picking up one thing, she is ALWAYS lying." We both laughed.  ;D And yes I know men are equally guilty of that.

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« Reply #24748 on: December 09, 2013, 01:24:21 PM »
I was about the first person into Matalan this morning because ohmygoodfemaledeity I have so much to do today - if anybody asks if you've seen me, say no, because I totally do not have time to stop, drink a cup of tea and read on EHell, so plainly I'm not doing that - shot round the store, picked up the things I needed and legged it for the till. The Matalan tills are in a row along one wall, with a big S-bend funnel to get you past the things you can absolutely manage without whatever the sales staff think, and an electronic board telling you which cashier is free.

It's not even breakfast time, so there are only 2 tills open but you still have to walk through the bend. SS-There's-Nobody-Here-But-Me pushes her trolley into the funnel - which is one trolley width plus about 2 feet - and stops dead to do something with her phone. I come up behind her, all clacking heels because I'm in a hurry, but, you know, EHell expects and all that so I don't barge past or yell 'move it, dingbat!' I hesitate politely for fifteen seconds so that she can finish what she's doing. I don't know what it is - she's either hacking into MI5 or playing Candy Crush - but she isn't finishing it and getting a move on, so I ask her, in a perfectly polite tone, if she minds if I come past. She looks shocked, pockets her phone and sets off towards the till at a speed approximating to that of continental drift, casting an 'oh, sorry' back over her shoulder at me.

I might have rolled my eyes, but I trotted in her wake, and at the tills she turned one way and I turned the other to the two cashiers. I was done in three minutes, purchases under my arm and heading for the exit, which is at the other end of the line of tills. SS-TNHBM had her trolley set right across the aisle, and looked at me blankly when I came up, with a distinct expression of 'what? what do you want?' She seemed completely shocked when I set a hand on the trolley and asked 'may I just come through?' I don't know, maybe she was expecting me to hurdle the rack of sports socks instead?

I bet she's a joy when all 20 tills are in use.

I really enjoyed reading this, you're a good writer!

Yesterday I was at Sam's Club with my son to pick up a few items* and when we got to the check-outs they were pretty full so we headed to the Self-check-outs. This guy had a big dolly full of stuff and positioned himself between the two regular Self-check-outs (the express Self-check-out was busy) so I waited behind him and he started dancing a little jig because he knew someone was behind him but he wanted to keep queuing. So I finally asked him, "Sir, which line are you in?"

To which he looked back at me and replied, "I don't know, I just want to get out of here." So a non-answer and he didn't move his dolly and his wife turned around so she didn't have to make eye contact with me.

As I was about to inform him that he needed to pick one so I could get in line (I swear I would have done it politely), my son noticed that the Express Self-check-out was empty and guided me to that, avoiding kerfuffle. DS and I dilly-dallied a little letting Queue Guy in front of me as we wheeled over to get our receipts highlighted.

Then DS left me at the pull-thru to get the vehicle so he could pick me and our things up. And who do I see drive past me? Queue Guy, studiously avoiding eye-contact. I actually said, out loud, 'This guys is always in my way,' as the pull-thru has a line and the person in front of you could technically keep you in the pull-thru (depending on how close you are to them) until they leave.

There was a happy ending as Queue Guy decided to drive past the end of the pull-thru and onto the sidewalk, thereby NOT blocking in anyone behind him.  ::)

*I asked my soon-to-be 18 yo son if he minded taking me to Sam's Club as I only needed one thing. After I put my tenth item in the cart, he mildly protested with "I thought you said you were only getting one thing?" I replied, deadpan, "When a woman tells you she's only picking up one thing, she is ALWAYS lying." We both laughed.  ;D And yes I know men are equally guilty of that.

I am somewhat confused.  Usually, there is a line that starts at the end of self check outs and when one is finally open, the first person in that line gets the next open spot.  We don't "pick" a line to stand in.   Maybe he was dancing a jig because he was tired of shopping and standing.  I know that happens to me and my lower back begins to hurt.  I rock back and forth usually and it is not because someone is behind me.  Actually, I think you were the rude one in this case. 

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« Reply #24749 on: December 09, 2013, 01:45:58 PM »

I am somewhat confused.  Usually, there is a line that starts at the end of self check outs and when one is finally open, the first person in that line gets the next open spot.  We don't "pick" a line to stand in.   Maybe he was dancing a jig because he was tired of shopping and standing.  I know that happens to me and my lower back begins to hurt.  I rock back and forth usually and it is not because someone is behind me.  Actually, I think you were the rude one in this case. 

At some places I've been to, you need to pick a line. At some others, you do not. I'm guessing bloo was in one of the former since she was waiting for him to decide and he said he couldn't make up his mind.
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