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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #25530 on: February 13, 2014, 06:36:25 PM »
I do have to say that, as a Jersey girl, my first time pumping gas out of state was pretty intimidating. It wasn't just the pumping part (and being convinced I was going to blow up the Mobil station), but I only had cash, and I had no idea how to pay! What if I gave them $20 and I only need $18 in my tank? What if I gave them $20, and I put $21 in my tank? Seriously, the mechanics of a self-serve gas station were confounding.

I've lived out of state for 15 years now, and I still only pay for gas with a card...
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« Reply #25531 on: February 13, 2014, 06:39:33 PM »
I remember being confused the first time I drove a new car and I went to pump my gas and I couldn't flip the tank cover open. It was completely smooth! How was I supposed to pull it ajar so I could fill the gas tank? Luckily for me, a kind person saw my dilemma and explained to me that many cars now have buttons on the interior that you need to press in order to open the gas tank cover.  ::)  Boy, did I feel dumb.
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« Reply #25532 on: February 13, 2014, 06:47:11 PM »
The officer asked Kathy if she wanted to press charges, but she said no. She was so rattled by the whole thing, she just couldn't bear seeing the idiot again. It makes me mad even thinking about it >:(!

How horrible for her!  >:( :o

I understand her reasoning but it's a shame Kathy didn't press charges. Having to face consequences for his actions might have helped him. If he decides to get unreasonably infuriated enough to do that to someone who was looking for trouble, the results could be disastrous.

I'd press charges, too. A driver who's mad enough to do that is a menace on the road!

I don't understand this "Kathy gets to decide whether to press charges." It's not Kathy's law; it's the state's law, it's "the people's" law; that's why criminal cases are "The People of the State of Idaho vs. ..."

The question should be, "Will you sign a statement or otherwise cooperate if we pursue charges?"

Kathy is not a complainant; she's a witness and a victim. Of course the prosecution doesn't want to go to all the trouble if their main witness is going to refuse to cooperate.

This actually makes me mad, this sort of thing. Individual victims don't "press charges"; the people of their state do, via the governmental prosecutors.

I agree that "pressing charges" can be poor wording, but since the state has the burden of proof, they aren't going to pursue charges unless they think they can count on the cooperation of the victim.  Trying to get a conviction without the cooperation of the victim (unless, of course, there's video of the crime being committed) is virtually impossible, and therefore the state usually sees it as a waste of money.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #25533 on: February 13, 2014, 07:47:09 PM »
I do have to say that, as a Jersey girl, my first time pumping gas out of state was pretty intimidating. It wasn't just the pumping part (and being convinced I was going to blow up the Mobil station), but I only had cash, and I had no idea how to pay! What if I gave them $20 and I only need $18 in my tank? What if I gave them $20, and I put $21 in my tank? Seriously, the mechanics of a self-serve gas station were confounding.

I've lived out of state for 15 years now, and I still only pay for gas with a card...

I still hate paying in cash for this very reason  :P  I always end up putting in less than I think I'll need ($20 versus "filling it all the way" like I would with a credit card) because I hate the idea of having to go inside more than once!

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« Reply #25534 on: February 13, 2014, 08:22:04 PM »
For those who didn't know how to open their gas tank and other things about pumping gas. In the Late 70's Mom got a new to her car. We were driving somewhere and it got dark. She turned on the lights and they were on high. She felt for that button on the floor with her foot and couldn't find it. She pulled off onto a residential road. Got out and was looking on the floor for the button.

At this point I jumped over the seat and showed her how to turn them off. The strange thing was Dad's car had the newer turn the brights on by flicking the stem from the column thing, and she drove that car.

The stonecold and the freezing weather reminded me of this one.

Late 90's San Angelo ISD got a new superintendent from up north.
First he freaks out about the kids going out to recess in 100+ weather. It is August in West Texas. He doesn't want them outside till it hits the 80's - what no recess, PE, or FOOTBALL (bow your head) till October. The board gets him over that hump.

Then came the ice storm. Everyone is sure the world is ending - and he refuses to close the schools. TexDOT has ordered people to stay off the road but he is sending the buses out because this is nothing and what is going to happen when winter really hits. The buses don't have to travel on the freeway/bridges. They can stick to the surface roads. There are few roads without bridges in San Angelo. They aren't big honking up in the sky bridges. They are little bitty low water crossing - over dry creek beds. But rain and temps below 32 those things freeze FAST. You got cold air and rain on top, you got cold air and dry creek bed below. The road is sandwiched in sub freezing air. 

Now I've noticed that if you aren't raised around low water bridges you don't see them - especially if they are over a dry creek bed. http://goo.gl/W6UurM shows what I'm talking about - except it is flooded.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #25535 on: February 13, 2014, 08:55:53 PM »
That is a BRIDGE???   :o

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« Reply #25536 on: February 13, 2014, 09:10:16 PM »
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My dad taught me to change a tire as a condition of learning to drive.

I had to do this too, as a condition of getting my license.   Along with learning to check all the fluids, change the oil, rotate the tires, and other basic maintenance things.   Dad's a mechanic.  He taught my sister and I this stuff for two reasons:  One, he won't always be around and he didn't want some less-than-honest person taking advantage of us when we needed our cars worked on, and two, he wanted very self-sufficient daughters. 

I think he succeeded.   Sissy and I now do most all our basic maintenance (oil changes, brakes, tire rotations, etc.) ourselves.  Dad will help, just because he likes working on cars with his girls, and because he has all the really good tools!

He also taught both of us that when we did rotate tires, to hand-tighten the lug nuts.  If the lug nuts are tightened all the way with an air wrench, they are next to impossible to break loose with just that tire-iron tool they give you with your spare.  It's not much good knowing how to change a tire if you can't get the lug nuts loose to get the tire off in the first place!

And as a hint, on most new cars, if you look at the gas gauge on the dash, there is a little arrow or triangle next to it pointing either left or right.   That tells you which side of the car the tank is on.

Ditto. As soon as I got my permit, I had to learn to drive a standard, rotate tires, do a basic oil change and tune up, and pump gas. And I had to learn on all of the family's cars. Dad had a full size van, mom had a Blazer, sis had a buick (can't remember what it was), and I had a 72 Impala. Pretty wide range to learn on. No drivers license allowed until I had done all of that.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #25537 on: February 13, 2014, 09:22:21 PM »
We left San Angelo in 1992, never to return to live there (knock on mesquite, live oak, or pecan wood) - VorGuy's parents and sister's family live there.  We visit.

Seriously, folks, in college in the 1970s, 1/4" (yes, that is one quarter of an inch) of snow caused accidents as people spun out of control on icy streets.

There were no snow tires in town - certainly no one around the college was using any, the few snow shovels had been brought by accident when moving from "up north" or were gotten as gag gifts (a joke). 

No one knew how to drive on snow - especially not the little 18 year old college freshman who hit our new red Pinto (only time I remember getting a brand new car - it was an accident magnet, I swear) when she spun out of control trying NOT to hit someone slowing to make a turn in front of her - no traction meant no control.

Students were walking in the snow because it was less likely to cause slips & falls than trying to walk on sidewalks frozen as slick as glass...I was one of them! 

There were a lot of us from the area who hadn't seen snow in eight years or so.  And there was no sand, salt, or snowplows closer than a six or eight hour drive due north in warm weather (meaning you could go fast, not creep along on snow covered roads). 

I remember one of the dry creek beds flooding and there was a foot of water washing over the "bridge" at a park as well as under the bridge - they had to install a new bridge later that year, as it washed out....the area is "semi-arid".  And windy - so wind chill will freeze any available moisture a lot faster than you might think it would.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #25538 on: February 13, 2014, 09:37:50 PM »
The officer asked Kathy if she wanted to press charges, but she said no. She was so rattled by the whole thing, she just couldn't bear seeing the idiot again. It makes me mad even thinking about it >:(!

How horrible for her!  >:( :o

I understand her reasoning but it's a shame Kathy didn't press charges. Having to face consequences for his actions might have helped him. If he decides to get unreasonably infuriated enough to do that to someone who was looking for trouble, the results could be disastrous.

I'd press charges, too. A driver who's mad enough to do that is a menace on the road!

I don't understand this "Kathy gets to decide whether to press charges." It's not Kathy's law; it's the state's law, it's "the people's" law; that's why criminal cases are "The People of the State of Idaho vs. ..."

The question should be, "Will you sign a statement or otherwise cooperate if we pursue charges?"

Kathy is not a complainant; she's a witness and a victim. Of course the prosecution doesn't want to go to all the trouble if their main witness is going to refuse to cooperate.

This actually makes me mad, this sort of thing. Individual victims don't "press charges"; the people of their state do, via the governmental prosecutors.

I agree that "pressing charges" can be poor wording, but since the state has the burden of proof, they aren't going to pursue charges unless they think they can count on the cooperation of the victim.  Trying to get a conviction without the cooperation of the victim (unless, of course, there's video of the crime being committed) is virtually impossible, and therefore the state usually sees it as a waste of money.

That's what I said in the bolded, no?

My problem is with that phrase. It implies that the victim is the only one with a complaint, and that is very much *not* the case.

In the battle to make police departments effectively deal / domestic violence (if I remember correctly), this concept--the victim being the one to bring the charges--is one of the things the activists and police managers attacked directly. The People of the State of Whichever are the ones with the beef, and a victim's permission is not needed, and their cooperation may not be either.

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« Reply #25539 on: February 13, 2014, 11:07:35 PM »
We left San Angelo in 1992, never to return to live there (knock on mesquite, live oak, or pecan wood) - VorGuy's parents and sister's family live there.  We visit.

Seriously, folks, in college in the 1970s, 1/4" (yes, that is one quarter of an inch) of snow caused accidents as people spun out of control on icy streets.
San Angelo was where I first drove on snow, about 2-3 inches, IIRC.  Same time frame.   DH, then DF, a Syracuse NY native, taught me to just let the idling of the engine pull the car along in the city, with no accelerator pedal at all.  And to brake BEFORE a turn, not as you go into it.  Keeps you from fishtailing. 

After that, 2 winters in Alaska finished the learning.
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« Reply #25540 on: February 14, 2014, 09:06:56 AM »
We left San Angelo in 1992, never to return to live there (knock on mesquite, live oak, or pecan wood) - VorGuy's parents and sister's family live there.  We visit.

Seriously, folks, in college in the 1970s, 1/4" (yes, that is one quarter of an inch) of snow caused accidents as people spun out of control on icy streets.
San Angelo was where I first drove on snow, about 2-3 inches, IIRC.  Same time frame.   DH, then DF, a Syracuse NY native, taught me to just let the idling of the engine pull the car along in the city, with no accelerator pedal at all.  And to brake BEFORE a turn, not as you go into it.  Keeps you from fishtailing. 

After that, 2 winters in Alaska finished the learning.

It was 1/4" of an inch when classes started....I think that it kept falling that day and we woke up on a Saturday morning with a lot more snow...

I don't remember how long it stuck around....it's been a long, long time.

Were you at ASU from 1975 to 1979?  We might have been on campus at the same time at some point....

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« Reply #25541 on: February 14, 2014, 09:52:53 AM »
Yesterday, we got hit with the western edge of that winter storm that hit the south this week.  This is on top of the snow that's already been here.  Most of the municipalities in this area have been struggling to keep their road salt supplies up -- salt is delivered by barge on the rivers, which are not completely frozen over, but have enough ice on them to make barge traffic a real pain in the backside.

The township I live in is mostly rural.   We are out of road salt here, so the township supervisors declared a state of emergency and requested that everyone stay home and off the roads today unless they need to travel to work, school (and the school district cancelled classes), or to medical appointments.    For the most part, those of us who live in the most rural parts of the township don't see any difference from when they're stocked full of salt -- our roads don't get plowed or salted until the main roads are bone-dry.  We've all learned to deal with driving on white-knuckle-gettin'-right-with-your-chosen-diety roads.

Well...  The local stations in Pittsburgh are having a FIELD DAY with this.  Every. Single. One of them has sent a news crew out to report on our salt disaster.  This would be all good and fine if they didn't all camp out in front of the friggin' Walmart, which is on a STATE highway.  The state has salt galore.  The highway they're reporting from is just wet.   So one of these dingbats says the emergency declaration is "just a precaution since the roads in the township ** cue grand motion to the highway behind her ** are just wet."   Another one felt it was necessary to point out that where the Turnpike passes through the township is all clear.  Well, hell.  It had better be!  They have their own road crew and lots of salt to throw around!!! None of these folks were anywhere NEAR a township road on their way out here to report on the situation. 

The parking lot in front of Walmart looks like an idiots' convention, much more than usual....

Meanwhile, as I'm venturing to work, I watch a UPS truck slide sideways for about 50 feet down the road in front of me.  I decided that was enough fun and games for one day, pushed the little 4WD button, and had me a nice long chat with The Man Upstairs until He got me safely to some clean road.   I'll never do a single naughty thing ever again!!!
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #25542 on: February 14, 2014, 11:09:37 AM »
That is a BRIDGE???   :o

Where I live, we'd call that a culvert.

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« Reply #25543 on: February 14, 2014, 11:43:50 AM »
Okay, here's a snowy weather snowflake. A few eeks ago my area had a white-out. As in, my mom's work opened late because everybody called in to say they weren't coming in till it cleared up enough to see more than twenty feet level of white-out. My dad does not have that luxury (this is the same place the requires you to clock out when you use the bathroom so they can be sure you aren't using it too often).

He heads out to work. Halfway there, he has to go through a hamlet.

Now tell me, visibility is low, you're at a full stop, someone is on the road you want to turn onto and is about ten feet away, there's a good inch of ice and several inches of snow on the road, what do you do?

What do you think Mr. Snowflake did?

Someday some idiot is going to kill themselves on these roads and I just hope they don't take any innocents with them.
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« Reply #25544 on: February 14, 2014, 11:48:25 AM »
I wish she had pressed charges; I would have! She was really rattled by it - even talking about it got her upset! The guy is a menace and he thought he was completely justified! Classic Snowflake!

I actually disagree.  In a perfect world, he would have been punished and life would have gone on. 

In our imperfect world, "do not engage the crazy" may apply here.  If he was that enraged at someone who he thinks cut him off, how angry would he get at someone who pressed charges against him?  He might see it as her personally attacking him.  Combine that with her admitting she's scared and he could easily take the chance to harass and intimidate her personally. 

Should he be able to do that? No.  But it may have simplified that poor woman's life considerably to just drop it.