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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27315 on: June 06, 2014, 09:36:52 AM »
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27316 on: June 06, 2014, 09:57:58 AM »
I saw someone trying to defend that woman on TV last night. "She probably isn't racist ... just really stressed out ... maybe she's going through some rough times ... life can be difficult, and sometimes we snap ... she said she was bipolar, so ..."

Uh-uh, don't buy it. You don't start throwing that sort of language around with such ease unless you use it and think it on a regular basis. Plus, her statements afterwards indicate that she really doesn't see that she did anything egregiously wrong. No "I can't believe I did that, and I'm so incredibly sorry and humiliated. I can't apologize enough." Instead she's all, "Mmph, I don't consider that word racist, why are people picking on me?"
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« Reply #27317 on: June 06, 2014, 10:04:21 AM »
My favorite was 'What am I supposed to do, apologize?'

Well, yes, that would be a start.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27318 on: June 06, 2014, 10:36:04 AM »
So she objects to the guy's stereo scaring her kids, she objects to him talking to her kids (saying stuff like, "It's ok, buddy"), she objects to him having her on video--but she doesn't just walk away.

You know, out of range.

Yeah, I'd want custody of my kids too. They don't need someone showing them that winning an argument is so important that they should prolong an unpleasant interaction. (even if the unpleasantness is all theirs)

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27319 on: June 06, 2014, 10:42:00 AM »
So she objects to the guy's stereo scaring her kids, she objects to him talking to her kids (saying stuff like, "It's ok, buddy"), she objects to him having her on video--but she doesn't just walk away.

You know, out of range.

Yeah, I'd want custody of my kids too. They don't need someone showing them that winning an argument is so important that they should prolong an unpleasant interaction. (even if the unpleasantness is all theirs)

If I were her husband, I would have come down there, but only to apologize to the poor fellow.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27320 on: June 06, 2014, 10:42:10 AM »
I noticed that when he mentioned her keeping an eye on her kids, she said, "I know where MY kids are," which sounded (to me) like because he's black he doesn't care about where any of his kids are or how many he has. I may be reading more into that though.

And yeah, you don't use that kind of racist language unless you are very comfortable with it.
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« Reply #27321 on: June 06, 2014, 10:44:30 AM »
I noticed that when he mentioned her keeping an eye on her kids, she said, "I know where MY kids are," which sounded (to me) like because he's black he doesn't care about where any of his kids are or how many he has. I may be reading more into that though.

And yeah, you don't use that kind of racist language unless you are very comfortable with it.

That's how I heard it, too.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27322 on: June 06, 2014, 10:45:55 AM »
I noticed that when he mentioned her keeping an eye on her kids, she said, "I know where MY kids are," which sounded (to me) like because he's black he doesn't care about where any of his kids are or how many he has. I may be reading more into that though.

And yeah, you don't use that kind of racist language unless you are very comfortable with it.

That's how I heard it, too.

Interesting. I heard it as "they're *my* kids, not yours, and you don't need to concern yourself with them."

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« Reply #27323 on: June 06, 2014, 10:48:29 AM »
I noticed that when he mentioned her keeping an eye on her kids, she said, "I know where MY kids are," which sounded (to me) like because he's black he doesn't care about where any of his kids are or how many he has. I may be reading more into that though.

And yeah, you don't use that kind of racist language unless you are very comfortable with it.

That's how I heard it, too.

Interesting. I heard it as "they're *my* kids, not yours, and you don't need to concern yourself with them."

I think if she hadn't been racist already, my mind probably would have gone where yours did.  If she had put the emphasis on "I" instead of "my", again, I probably would have read it your way. 
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27324 on: June 06, 2014, 10:56:20 AM »
I noticed that when he mentioned her keeping an eye on her kids, she said, "I know where MY kids are," which sounded (to me) like because he's black he doesn't care about where any of his kids are or how many he has. I may be reading more into that though.

And yeah, you don't use that kind of racist language unless you are very comfortable with it.

That's how I heard it, too.

Interesting. I heard it as "they're *my* kids, not yours, and you don't need to concern yourself with them."

I think if she hadn't been racist already, my mind probably would have gone where yours did.  If she had put the emphasis on "I" instead of "my", again, I probably would have read it your way.

I think the non-racist version would have been "I KNOW where my kids are."  By putting the emphasis on the word 'my' it does make it sound like she's implying the interpretation suggested by *AfleetAlex*.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27325 on: June 06, 2014, 10:59:58 AM »
I can totally see her starting out with a simple "I know where" without any emphasis, and right about the word "know" think, "these are *my* kids, not yours, you're not the boss of them, I am, and what *I* think is what matters," and then emphasizing "my."

We'll never know--what she meant was locked in her head, and I don't think it's fair to assume that you know.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27326 on: June 06, 2014, 11:02:02 AM »
So she objects to the guy's stereo scaring her kids, she objects to him talking to her kids (saying stuff like, "It's ok, buddy"), she objects to him having her on video--but she doesn't just walk away.

You know, out of range.

Yeah, I'd want custody of my kids too. They don't need someone showing them that winning an argument is so important that they should prolong an unpleasant interaction. (even if the unpleasantness is all theirs)

If I were her husband, I would have come down there, but only to apologize to the poor fellow.

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Honestly, this "lady" has serious problems, and she's teaching her kids this lovely attitude as well. How can you call someone a "racist ******* n*****" with perfect sincerity and not a thought as to how that is a completely racist thing to say unless you have lived and breathed that attitude your whole life?

And the whole thing being started by someone starting their car and having music up loud, which is a normal parking lot occurrence! Seriously. If her kid was so scared, why isn't she comforting him? Instead, he's swinging around the posts and sign poles looking like he has not a care in the world while his mother is having an absolute fit. Shows to me that this must happen on a fairly regular basis for the kids to be so blasť about it.

She's doing a fine job of raising a couple of racist special snowflakes... (am I right that one of the kids also called him the n-word???) Apparently, the world must stop when she and her precious babies are walking by...

Honestly, the guy taking the video is a class act. He never raises his voice. It makes me sad how resigned he sounds as he says "this is where I live".

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27327 on: June 06, 2014, 11:06:01 AM »
If she's not racist, she would be calling him a jerk or creep or even swear words, not racial slurs. That word just don't rolls off the tongue unless it's already part of your normal everyday vocabulary. I can't even get myself to say it (as a test) alone in my own home.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27328 on: June 06, 2014, 11:15:11 AM »
I was cynically amused by her vehement defense last night on TV that " if you look the word up, it really isn't racial at all - it just means an ignorant person".

Now, I understand that words meanings can change greatly depending on the group using them, but I highly doubt she would have been throwing that word at someone who wasn't an African-American, if the rest of the situation were the same.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27329 on: June 06, 2014, 11:16:06 AM »


And the whole thing being started by someone starting their car and having music up loud, which is a normal parking lot occurrence! Seriously. If her kid was so scared, why isn't she comforting him? Instead, he's swinging around the posts and sign poles looking like he has not a care in the world while his mother is having an absolute fit. Shows to me that this must happen on a fairly regular basis for the kids to be so blasť about it.

Or, that he's trying to cover for being rattled.

I once saw a man in my nabe walking w/ his 4yo (maybe 5yo), and a car must have turned a corner and nearly hit them in the crosswalk (I'm guessing, I didn't see it--I only saw the argument afterward). The man was holding his son's hand and yelling, "You nearly hit my son!" He must have keyed the guy's car, because the driver was looking at the paintwork and yelling at the dad, threatening to call the cops or sue. And the dad was yelling back.
   The poor little boy was standing there, still, holding his daddy's hand, and when the nasty altercation finally ended and the car drove away, the poor child collapsed in sobs.
   I thought, "*You* were the one who scared your son!" If you'd modeled a calm behavior after the near-miss, he would have recovered from any fright pretty soon. Instead, you created this huge altercation that has completely undone him. He's frightened because of the nastiness -you- initiated."

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She's doing a fine job of raising a couple of racist special snowflakes... (am I right that one of the kids also called him the n-word???)

So either he hears this sort of thing a lot, or he was rattled and ended up having to choose to be on his mother's side as a way to cope with it.

At the beginning, the kids don't look too invested in their mother's tirade; they look like they're trying to find ways to occupy themselves while they ignore it.

But yeah, not good for them either way, whether she's unsettled them or whether she's teaching them to be argumentative, belligerent racists.

(That woman is lucky she did that w/ someone who isn't nasty-minded back.)


(Though I wouldn't argue that the guy is a class act. A class act would have put his car in reverse and back out, then driven away, after saying to the kids (ignoring the mom), "Sorry to scare you, guys! Bye!")