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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27360 on: June 07, 2014, 05:28:05 PM »
Besides which, they're working. And they're working for all of us. So if it saves them 15 minutes to get to wherever they're going, even if it isn't an emergency, I don't consider it to be out of line. It's police business.

Donut shop, well.....

My local firefighters don't use the sirens when they're taking the fire engine to the supermarket.


And neither do my local cops.  In the case of the cop car turning into the donut shop,  did you hang around long enough to see they buy donuts,  or is it possible they just used the parking lot as a turn around spot.   Where I live there are not enough cops and it's not unusual for cops on a routine job (like ambo escort) to be called for a robbery in progress where they are the closest police officers.  Or they could have been called to the donut shop because there was a call for them to go to the donut shop.       People think the police are turning into my C store for chicken or donuts, or a coffee break,  when in reality I've called them because some drunk is harassing the deli guy,  or me (the cashier) or the other customers.   Not every call the police respond to is an emergency.

Good point. And I once saw a mounted police officer, who had been on routine traffic/giving the tourists directions patrol a couple of minutes earlier, joining a police chase at a full gallop.

I'm not saying the police may not be in a hurry when it's not obvious; I just dislike the idea that by virtue of their job they should always get priority in traffic, even when the urgency isn't inherent in the current task/assignment. The cop who is suddenly needed for an emergency call on the way to testify in traffic court is going to be speeding off in some other direction; running lights when there's no emergency at best inconveniences everyone else who also has work to do and places to be, and increases the risks of a crash.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27361 on: June 07, 2014, 05:29:03 PM »
Around here, the cops speed like anything.  That car going 80 miles around the Beltway?  You're never really surprised to see that it's a police car, but without lights and sirens.  I really think that it's a) unsafe and b) hypocritical for police officers to drive around violating the laws of traffic unless they have lights and/or sirens on to warn people.  It seems to vary by area, though... perhaps it can depend on the management style at a precinct?  I know I didn't see it in the previous place we lived.

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« Reply #27362 on: June 07, 2014, 08:48:41 PM »
I need to nominate the SS gentleman parked on the side of the rural (i.e. dirt) but busyish road yesterday. As I approached him coming from the opposite direction, I saw that he was sitting on the front bumper. As I came even nearer, I saw he had his britches down. As I passed him, I could see him passing something too. (Fwiw, I was the second of three vehicles that passed him in pretty short order.) As I continued on, in my rearview mirror, I saw a woman get out of the vehicle with what looked like toilet paper. On my way back, I passed the same spot and yes, There was a spot of piled up toilet paper.

I do understand that sometimes s--- does indeed happen and when ya gotta go, ya gotta go. But this man made almost no attempt at hiding his activity, when there was a wooded area reasonably nearby. Yuck!

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27363 on: June 07, 2014, 09:16:48 PM »
I'll nominate a local ambulance company -- transport ambulances, not EMS -- who frequently flip on the lights and sirens to get through a red light, clearly after dropping a patient off at a nearby hospital.

They have lights and sirens in case something bad happens on the way to the hospital, but are definitely taking advantage and using them to get through a long light on the road heading away from the hospital.

Oh, and their lights trip the special sensor on the traffic light, which means that the signals for everyone else turn red and stay red for that much longer.  :P

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27364 on: June 08, 2014, 02:14:48 AM »
I always thought they use lights and sirens to get to the patient, and may not use them taking the patient to the hospital unless it's urgent as the siren can annoy the patient in the back.

When I was in an ambulance for my miscarriage, it pulled up with lights and sirens but didn't on the way to the hospital.

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« Reply #27365 on: June 08, 2014, 07:08:16 AM »
A peculiarly British instance of (at least potential) special-snowflakery here, I suppose; connected with an especial British oddity. The traditional way things work in British pubs is that one goes up to the bar (installed at waist / arms level), and orders one's drink(s) there. The bar-person fills the glasses as per request; the customer pays the cost of the drink(s) to the bar-person; then takes the drink(s) to their selected spot in the pub.

A spot which a few customers often select, is right at the bar, with their drinks resting on its level top; they spend their time in the pub, drinking actually at the bar -- usually standing up, sometimes sitting on tall stools. This of course makes it a little difficult for customers who want to order drinks -- which most of them will consume at chairs-at-tables elsewhere in the pub -- to reach the edge of the bar to get the drinks from the bar-persons. The whole thing is rather impractical, and to many, a tad annoying; but universally gets a pass as a bit of characterful time-honoured British strangeness. It is almost always negotiated in a good-humoured way: the drinkers at the bar move aside a little, to let the orderers get to where they need, and do their stuff.

A couple of weeks ago I encountered -- for the first time ever, to the best of my recollection -- an "advance" on this practice, which occasioned raised eyebrows on my part. In a quiet country pub, an oldish couple were sitting on high stools at the bar, eating a fairly elaborate cold lunch. It was not a highly extensive bar; perhaps eight or nine feet long, in two halves joining in the middle at a gentle angle. The couple and their meal were occupying one of the halves in its entirety. Admittedly it was late lunchtime, with few customers; my companion and I were able easily to get our drinks at the unoccupied half of the bar.

Perhaps I'm being too hard on these folk in seeing them as could-be SS's: but, two people being established side by side at the bar, with a meal "in sundry parts", made it in this location, all but impossible for them to move aside at all, to let a drink-orderer reach that part of the bar. One had to wonder: what if a large party had suddenly arrived, all wanting to order drinks -- with half the bar, "to be served at", being totally blocked to them?  Perhaps the lunching couple would have behaved graciously, and inconvenienced themselves in whatever way would have given the newcomers a fair shot at the whole bar. There is an inclination, though, to suspect that if they had been used to exercising consideration and empathy, they would have thought beforehand of the possible turn of events just described; and would have -- as nearly everyone having a meal in a pub, does -- eaten their lunch at a table.  I suppose I should give them the benefit of the doubt; but it is hard not to feel that a traditional oddity by which a degree of inconsiderateness is allowed and consented to, was being taken an unacceptable stage further.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27366 on: June 08, 2014, 11:58:52 AM »
Besides which, they're working. And they're working for all of us. So if it saves them 15 minutes to get to wherever they're going, even if it isn't an emergency, I don't consider it to be out of line. It's police business.

Donut shop, well.....

My local firefighters don't use the sirens when they're taking the fire engine to the supermarket.


And neither do my local cops.  In the case of the cop car turning into the donut shop,  did you hang around long enough to see they buy donuts,  or is it possible they just used the parking lot as a turn around spot.   Where I live there are not enough cops and it's not unusual for cops on a routine job (like ambo escort) to be called for a robbery in progress where they are the closest police officers.  Or they could have been called to the donut shop because there was a call for them to go to the donut shop.       People think the police are turning into my C store for chicken or donuts, or a coffee break,  when in reality I've called them because some drunk is harassing the deli guy,  or me (the cashier) or the other customers.   Not every call the police respond to is an emergency.

Here's the lesson I learned about not making assumptions:

Years ago, I was visiting my mother and we were taking a walk to Andy's Donut Shop a few block away.  On the way, there were 3 police cars tearing down the street with sirens and lights.  I told Mom, "Oh, they just want to get to Andy's for their break."  When we arrived, the police were indeed at Andy's, but they had the owner in handcuffs.  They had arrested him for something to do with illegal weapons/ammo. 

Unfortunately for us, we didn't get our donuts that day.  I don't remember the resolution of the case, but Andy's did reopen after a few weeks. 

Now I'm wanting an apple fritter.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27367 on: June 08, 2014, 12:04:43 PM »
Besides which, they're working. And they're working for all of us. So if it saves them 15 minutes to get to wherever they're going, even if it isn't an emergency, I don't consider it to be out of line. It's police business.

Donut shop, well.....

My local firefighters don't use the sirens when they're taking the fire engine to the supermarket.


And neither do my local cops.  In the case of the cop car turning into the donut shop,  did you hang around long enough to see they buy donuts,  or is it possible they just used the parking lot as a turn around spot.   Where I live there are not enough cops and it's not unusual for cops on a routine job (like ambo escort) to be called for a robbery in progress where they are the closest police officers.  Or they could have been called to the donut shop because there was a call for them to go to the donut shop.       People think the police are turning into my C store for chicken or donuts, or a coffee break,  when in reality I've called them because some drunk is harassing the deli guy,  or me (the cashier) or the other customers.   Not every call the police respond to is an emergency.

Here's the lesson I learned about not making assumptions:

Years ago, I was visiting my mother and we were taking a walk to Andy's Donut Shop a few block away.  On the way, there were 3 police cars tearing down the street with sirens and lights.  I told Mom, "Oh, they just want to get to Andy's for their break."  When we arrived, the police were indeed at Andy's, but they had the owner in handcuffs.  They had arrested him for something to do with illegal weapons/ammo. 

Unfortunately for us, we didn't get our donuts that day.  I don't remember the resolution of the case, but Andy's did reopen after a few weeks. 

Now I'm wanting an apple fritter.

I also once made a joke about cops and donuts to a former cop and then he told me why cops tend to go to donut shops. Because in some places people don't like cops and might be inclined to do something to their food - and a beat cop can't go outside his area during his lunch break and be back in time. So they go to donut shops and the like because the food is prepared in front of them and so they know noone did anything to it.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27368 on: June 08, 2014, 12:36:31 PM »
Another reason why cops like doughnut shops is that they tend to be open long hours, so it's a place where third watch officers can get food and use the bathroom. And doughnut shops like cops, because their workers would be vulnerable to robbery, except that robbers know that cops might be dropping by at any time.
Plus, doughnuts are tasty snacks.  ::)

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« Reply #27369 on: June 08, 2014, 12:38:46 PM »
I also once made a joke about cops and donuts to a former cop and then he told me why cops tend to go to donut shops. Because in some places people don't like cops and might be inclined to do something to their food - and a beat cop can't go outside his area during his lunch break and be back in time. So they go to donut shops and the like because the food is prepared in front of them and so they know noone did anything to it.

I was told that another reason was that years ago, before life was 24/7, donut shops were the only places open at off hours.

Jocelyn posted at the same time :).

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27370 on: June 08, 2014, 12:42:29 PM »

Perhaps I'm being too hard on these folk in seeing them as could-be SS's: but, two people being established side by side at the bar, with a meal "in sundry parts", made it in this location, all but impossible for them to move aside at all, to let a drink-orderer reach that part of the bar. 

Perhaps they were eating at the bar because they wanted to converse with the bartender? You said it was after the rush, so maybe they were regulars and knew that there wasn't going to be so many people coming in at that time, that their meal would impair the bartender's ability to serve people who were arriving. And perhaps the bartender told them it would be OK.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27371 on: June 08, 2014, 12:53:02 PM »
Perhaps I'm being too hard on these folk in seeing them as could-be SS's: but, two people being established side by side at the bar, with a meal "in sundry parts", made it in this location, all but impossible for them to move aside at all, to let a drink-orderer reach that part of the bar. One had to wonder: what if a large party had suddenly arrived, all wanting to order drinks -- with half the bar, "to be served at", being totally blocked to them?

Unless the bar tender magically multiplied or got extra hands, they were going to have to wait their turn anyway. Plus, as a former bar tender, a smaller serving area is much easier to tell who is next in line.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27372 on: June 08, 2014, 01:13:34 PM »
Perhaps I'm being too hard on these folk in seeing them as could-be SS's: but, two people being established side by side at the bar, with a meal "in sundry parts", made it in this location, all but impossible for them to move aside at all, to let a drink-orderer reach that part of the bar. One had to wonder: what if a large party had suddenly arrived, all wanting to order drinks -- with half the bar, "to be served at", being totally blocked to them?

Unless the bar tender magically multiplied or got extra hands, they were going to have to wait their turn anyway. Plus, as a former bar tender, a smaller serving area is much easier to tell who is next in line.

Yes, this would not raise the slightest blip on my 'SS  Radar' - the bar wasn't busy, they weren't obstructing anyone, and the staff had not issue with them being there. Unless it was an unusually busy oub, the liklihood of it suddenly being swamped to the extent that it would be an issue were probably pretty low, and the staff probably know better than anyone else whether that is likely to happen.

I have to say, I've never really found that people standing at the bar makes it particularly difficult to order - maybe you have to be bread to it ;)

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27373 on: June 08, 2014, 01:59:22 PM »
A peculiarly British instance of (at least potential) special-snowflakery here, I suppose; connected with an especial British oddity. The traditional way things work in British pubs is that one goes up to the bar (installed at waist / arms level), and orders one's drink(s) there. The bar-person fills the glasses as per request; the customer pays the cost of the drink(s) to the bar-person; then takes the drink(s) to their selected spot in the pub.

A spot which a few customers often select, is right at the bar, with their drinks resting on its level top; they spend their time in the pub, drinking actually at the bar -- usually standing up, sometimes sitting on tall stools. This of course makes it a little difficult for customers who want to order drinks -- which most of them will consume at chairs-at-tables elsewhere in the pub -- to reach the edge of the bar to get the drinks from the bar-persons. The whole thing is rather impractical, and to many, a tad annoying; but universally gets a pass as a bit of characterful time-honoured British strangeness. It is almost always negotiated in a good-humoured way: the drinkers at the bar move aside a little, to let the orderers get to where they need, and do their stuff.

A couple of weeks ago I encountered -- for the first time ever, to the best of my recollection -- an "advance" on this practice, which occasioned raised eyebrows on my part. In a quiet country pub, an oldish couple were sitting on high stools at the bar, eating a fairly elaborate cold lunch. It was not a highly extensive bar; perhaps eight or nine feet long, in two halves joining in the middle at a gentle angle. The couple and their meal were occupying one of the halves in its entirety. Admittedly it was late lunchtime, with few customers; my companion and I were able easily to get our drinks at the unoccupied half of the bar.

Perhaps I'm being too hard on these folk in seeing them as could-be SS's: but, two people being established side by side at the bar, with a meal "in sundry parts", made it in this location, all but impossible for them to move aside at all, to let a drink-orderer reach that part of the bar. One had to wonder: what if a large party had suddenly arrived, all wanting to order drinks -- with half the bar, "to be served at", being totally blocked to them?  Perhaps the lunching couple would have behaved graciously, and inconvenienced themselves in whatever way would have given the newcomers a fair shot at the whole bar. There is an inclination, though, to suspect that if they had been used to exercising consideration and empathy, they would have thought beforehand of the possible turn of events just described; and would have -- as nearly everyone having a meal in a pub, does -- eaten their lunch at a table.  I suppose I should give them the benefit of the doubt; but it is hard not to feel that a traditional oddity by which a degree of inconsiderateness is allowed and consented to, was being taken an unacceptable stage further.

Because there's a definite divide here between places that serve food as their primary business and places that serve alcohol as their primary business, there's only one place that I frequent that has a similar environment to a pub - the bar at the bowling alley where my trivia team plays.  It is primarily a bar, so it doesn't have proper waitstaff, and you either sit at the bar counter and eat and drink, which is perfectly normal, or you order at the bar counter and take your drinks and your food is brought out to you.   It is considered perfectly normal to eat and drink at the bar counter - probably because in restaurants with bars, you can sit at the bar and eat and drink and it doesn't disrupt service because the table orders are handled by waitstaff, and in bars that don't serve food, it's normal to sit at the bar to drink if they provide bar stools, which most do, and people ordering drinks either wedge in between the stools or go to an end of the bar to order.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #27374 on: June 08, 2014, 04:32:41 PM »
A peculiarly British instance of (at least potential) special-snowflakery here, I suppose; connected with an especial British oddity. The traditional way things work in British pubs is that one goes up to the bar (installed at waist / arms level), and orders one's drink(s) there. The bar-person fills the glasses as per request; the customer pays the cost of the drink(s) to the bar-person; then takes the drink(s) to their selected spot in the pub.

A spot which a few customers often select, is right at the bar, with their drinks resting on its level top; they spend their time in the pub, drinking actually at the bar -- usually standing up, sometimes sitting on tall stools. This of course makes it a little difficult for customers who want to order drinks -- which most of them will consume at chairs-at-tables elsewhere in the pub -- to reach the edge of the bar to get the drinks from the bar-persons. The whole thing is rather impractical, and to many, a tad annoying; but universally gets a pass as a bit of characterful time-honoured British strangeness. It is almost always negotiated in a good-humoured way: the drinkers at the bar move aside a little, to let the orderers get to where they need, and do their stuff.

A couple of weeks ago I encountered -- for the first time ever, to the best of my recollection -- an "advance" on this practice, which occasioned raised eyebrows on my part. In a quiet country pub, an oldish couple were sitting on high stools at the bar, eating a fairly elaborate cold lunch. It was not a highly extensive bar; perhaps eight or nine feet long, in two halves joining in the middle at a gentle angle. The couple and their meal were occupying one of the halves in its entirety. Admittedly it was late lunchtime, with few customers; my companion and I were able easily to get our drinks at the unoccupied half of the bar.

Perhaps I'm being too hard on these folk in seeing them as could-be SS's: but, two people being established side by side at the bar, with a meal "in sundry parts", made it in this location, all but impossible for them to move aside at all, to let a drink-orderer reach that part of the bar. One had to wonder: what if a large party had suddenly arrived, all wanting to order drinks -- with half the bar, "to be served at", being totally blocked to them?  Perhaps the lunching couple would have behaved graciously, and inconvenienced themselves in whatever way would have given the newcomers a fair shot at the whole bar. There is an inclination, though, to suspect that if they had been used to exercising consideration and empathy, they would have thought beforehand of the possible turn of events just described; and would have -- as nearly everyone having a meal in a pub, does -- eaten their lunch at a table.  I suppose I should give them the benefit of the doubt; but it is hard not to feel that a traditional oddity by which a degree of inconsiderateness is allowed and consented to, was being taken an unacceptable stage further.
I first wanted to point out that what you call a bit of time honoured British strangeness, is what I call normal almost anywhere I have ever been in any country.

Furthermore, i have seen people eat at the bar almost anywhere as well, so as long as the place has no rule against it, and noone requests they eat somewhere else and they refuse, nothing SS there either.
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