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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20535 on: April 15, 2013, 11:56:51 AM »

...   Snowflake doesn't eat until she ponies up.   ...


I don't think she should even GET there until she first ponies up for gas.  I don't think she should be allowed to share the apartment at all unless and until she first chips in her share for the rent.  Then we can talk about whether or not she gets any food.   >:(

It looks like the MOH has taken a hard line on this one. She sent out an email today saying unless you've paid up front for the apartment and are ready to hand over xx amount for gas, don't bother showing up at the meeting point. Fortunately I'll get to miss any late fireworks since I'm going with the late group down.

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We had a similar situation. We went to Comic Con in 2011, and some friends went with us. One of the friends did not pay for gas or food at all and said the only money he had was reserved for a few things he planned on buying at the convention. Much resentment was felt by everyone, but no one spoke up because then we would've been treated to an extremely unpleasant ride home with the guy, because he had major attitude issues besides.

When we went last year, we told Mooching Friend that he had to pay for gas ahead of time, and no one would be covering his meals, so if he wanted to eat he'd have to pay for it himself. If he didn't like that plan, he could find his own way there. He was told well in advance, so he couldn't then claim it was too short notice for him to get together the cash. He ponied up with the money but made several PA remarks during the trip about how he didn't have enough for this or that cool thing he wanted to buy. Too bad, dude..you don't get to enjoy comic con on everyone else's dime.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20536 on: April 15, 2013, 12:00:59 PM »

...   Snowflake doesn't eat until she ponies up.   ...


I don't think she should even GET there until she first ponies up for gas.  I don't think she should be allowed to share the apartment at all unless and until she first chips in her share for the rent.  Then we can talk about whether or not she gets any food.   >:(

It looks like the MOH has taken a hard line on this one. She sent out an email today saying unless you've paid up front for the apartment and are ready to hand over xx amount for gas, don't bother showing up at the meeting point. Fortunately I'll get to miss any late fireworks since I'm going with the late group down.

Good for the MOH!

We had a similar situation. We went to Comic Con in 2011, and some friends went with us. One of the friends did not pay for gas or food at all and said the only money he had was reserved for a few things he planned on buying at the convention. Much resentment was felt by everyone, but no one spoke up because then we would've been treated to an extremely unpleasant ride home with the guy, because he had major attitude issues besides.

When we went last year, we told Mooching Friend that he had to pay for gas ahead of time, and no one would be covering his meals, so if he wanted to eat he'd have to pay for it himself. If he didn't like that plan, he could find his own way there. He was told well in advance, so he couldn't then claim it was too short notice for him to get together the cash. He ponied up with the money but made several PA remarks during the trip about how he didn't have enough for this or that cool thing he wanted to buy. Too bad, dude..you don't get to enjoy comic con on everyone else's dime.

I don't understand people like that. I go away to Atlantic City once a year, with the girls. We've been doing this for quite some time, and we used to go for one night, and stay over, go to the spa, etc. except at the time, I coudln't afford a spa treatment, so while they went, I entertained myself elsewhere. and was then able to go partake in the nice, but pricy dinner we treat ourselves to.

Now we stay in my friend's condo which is nearby, and go to a different spa, and I also have some more disposable income. and when we all hit the casino, i generlaly spend the least, as its not my hting. but i'd never expect anyone to pay for me during that time, for anything.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20537 on: April 15, 2013, 01:02:35 PM »
LadyClaire wrote:

"We had a similar situation. We went to Comic Con in 2011, and some friends went with us. One of the friends did not pay for gas or food at all and said the only money he had was reserved for a few things he planned on buying at the convention. Much resentment was felt by everyone, but no one spoke up because then we would've been treated to an extremely unpleasant ride home with the guy, because he had major attitude issues besides."

One wonders why the ride home wasn't made contingent upon paying up, or why you all just didn't leave him there to find his own way home.  He had money for buying things, so you could have insisted that he pay his share, and you can solve the grousing on the ride home by not taking him along.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20538 on: April 21, 2013, 06:53:26 PM »
DH and I are in disagreement over an incident at church this morning.  A little girl (8 years old), we'll call her "Emily," was took part in an important ceremony in our religion this morning.  She's an absolutely beloved kid in the congregation because she has a such a sweet, funny, lively nature. Also, she has a large family comprised of long time, very active members. So a lot of us were really excited to see her take part in this ceremony, particularly my daughter as Emily and Weeblegirl have been good friends since they were in the baby nursery together. Weeblegirl has already been through the ceremony, so she and Emily spent a lot of time discussing it.

The ceremonial portion of the service occurs right after the first hymn, so maybe ten minutes after the service begins.  A family of six adults and a newborn baby sat about two rows behind us. (The family is newer to the congregation and in no way related to Emily's family.) The baby fussed a little bit in the first few minutes of the service, but I thought, as the ceremony began, that surely, if the baby started to cry during the baptism they would take the baby out of the sanctuary into the quiet room, where the accompanying adult could watch the service on CCTV until the baby quieted down.  The family has been at the church long enough that they know the ceremonies tend to be very quiet, though joyous, occasions, in which the church congregation welcomes a new member into the family.

I'm sure you know what happened next.  The minute the ceremony began, the baby started crying.  And not weak little kitten cries, I mean full-blast, both-lungs exerted, opera-diva in training SCREAMS that had the people wearing hearing aids wincing and reaching for their volume dials.  We kept waiting for the mother or someone among the six people sitting with this baby, to take her outside.  But no, the baby just kept wailing.   The minister performing the ceremony actually paused and waited a few beats so he could be heard, but when it became clear that the baby wasn't going to be moved, he continued as best he could, speaking up into his microphone.  We noticed that the audio crew that runs the PA system turned up the volume of his mic, but we still had a hard time hearing him.

After church, I mentioned to DH that it would have been better if one of our ushers approached the family and asked them to take the baby to the quiet room.  DH said that would be unkind and could turn that whole family away from attending the church.  I said OK, but what about Emily and her family, who we've all known for years?  Shouldn't we be concerned about their feelings, too?  I called the baby's family special snowflakes.  DH said they weren't, and maybe the mother was just nervous about leaving the baby in the baby nursery.  I said that would be fine, she could still go to the quiet room out of consideration to the rest of the congregation - even if there wasn't important ceremony going on.  It's polite to take a baby out of a quiet setting when he or she is crying.  He says that's not very welcoming.

So what say you?
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20539 on: April 21, 2013, 06:58:12 PM »
If it had been the baby being baptized, obviously she would have had to stay.  But I agree with you that one of the adults should have taken her out, especially with CCTV set up.  I think it would have been fine for an usher to approach them and ask that they take the baby out for at least the duration of the ceremony.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20540 on: April 21, 2013, 07:09:05 PM »
If it had been the baby being baptized, obviously she would have had to stay.  But I agree with you that one of the adults should have taken her out, especially with CCTV set up.  I think it would have been fine for an usher to approach them and ask that they take the baby out for at least the duration of the ceremony.

POD. A crying baby should be removed from any situation where quiet and attention is expected and/or necessary, and that goes double for a church ceremony (or just a church service in general). It would have been completely OK for an usher to politely ask them to step out while the baby was crying. Given the fact that there is another room where CCTV is set up, and they could have taken the baby to that room but chose not to do so, in my opinion, the family was being special snowflakey.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20541 on: April 21, 2013, 07:13:58 PM »
This weekend I was visiting my home city and decided to take myself out to lunch. I decided on a place I hadn't been for a while, forgetting that that location gets pretty busy around lunchtime on a weekday. It's also on the corner of an intersection.

I made a right turn through the intersection and onto the road where the restaurant was--there's a line of parking on this road. Unfortunately my forward progress was blocked by a large SUV. Apparently he was waiting for a parking spot, which was the second one closest to the corner. The driver of the parked car got in and started to back out, when the SUV driver realized he hadn't left enough room for the other car to back out. So he started backing up--right onto my car. (I then realized that my horn was broken, ugh.) I backed up as much as I could (luckily there were no cars or pedestrians coming) until my back end was right at the crosswalk. That wasn't enough for the SUV, who continued to back up. I flailed to indicate that I couldn't back up any more. He honked at me and continued to back until our cars were almost touching. (My car is very small so he could have pushed me if I had let him.) I backed up a bit more (there was a car behind me at that point so I couldn't back up any more, plus he was forcing me into the intersection.) He backed up until our cars were thisclose, then pulled forward to park.

I almost wish I had let him hit me--it was a new looking car and mine's pretty old, it would have been kind of interesting to see how much that spot was "worth" to him after our insurances talked to each other. I had somewhere to be after lunch though, and based on how aggressive was behind the wheel, I don't think I wouldn't have wanted to stick around with him while waiting for the cops. I still can't believe he bullied me into backing up for him though.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20542 on: April 21, 2013, 07:15:51 PM »
I went to a continuing legal ed "lunch & learn" on Friday. The District Attorney was giving the low down on how his office works, blah blah blah. He did catch my attention when he mentioned "those special unique snowflakes" who want to go outside the diversion outlines. I did suppress a guffaw.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20543 on: April 21, 2013, 07:21:38 PM »
If it had been the baby being baptized, obviously she would have had to stay.  But I agree with you that one of the adults should have taken her out, especially with CCTV set up.  I think it would have been fine for an usher to approach them and ask that they take the baby out for at least the duration of the ceremony.

POD. A crying baby should be removed from any situation where quiet and attention is expected and/or necessary, and that goes double for a church ceremony (or just a church service in general). It would have been completely OK for an usher to politely ask them to step out while the baby was crying. Given the fact that there is another room where CCTV is set up, and they could have taken the baby to that room but chose not to do so, in my opinion, the family was being special snowflakey.

Pod as well. I understand what your DH is saying because some people take unreasonable offense at others not actually enjoying the shrieks of their baby, but they were still special snowflakes. Also, tp be charitable, maybe they wanted to leave but thought it would look bad in the middle of the ceremony or something. A kind person with a smile saying "Come on, let's take him/her out to the other room and we'll watch from there. Goodness, hasn't s/he grown?" would have possibly been a relief. It doesn't have to be presented as "Get that foul baby out of here at once, woman! Be gone! Gone, I say!"
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20544 on: April 21, 2013, 07:24:47 PM »
If it had been the baby being baptized, obviously she would have had to stay.  But I agree with you that one of the adults should have taken her out, especially with CCTV set up.  I think it would have been fine for an usher to approach them and ask that they take the baby out for at least the duration of the ceremony.

POD. A crying baby should be removed from any situation where quiet and attention is expected and/or necessary, and that goes double for a church ceremony (or just a church service in general). It would have been completely OK for an usher to politely ask them to step out while the baby was crying. Given the fact that there is another room where CCTV is set up, and they could have taken the baby to that room but chose not to do so, in my opinion, the family was being special snowflakey.

I agree.  The ushers should have politely approached the family and led them to the quiet room.  On a related note, one of the older priests at the church I went to when I was a kid famously stopped a sermon because a child was being particularly noisy and told the family that there was a nursery available for child care and a quiet room available in the back of the church, and that he would wait while they decided which room to take the child to.  Then he waited and stared at them until they moved.  That wasn't very ehell approved, but it sure did make a difference in the child-noise level of the services for years, at least when he was saying mass.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20545 on: April 21, 2013, 08:02:20 PM »
This really belongs in the Brain Hurt thread but, since that no longer exists, I'll put it here.

Back in my library days, we had a request.  Someone wanted to write, 'Sorry about the broken leg.  Good luck, King Tut' on a friend's cast.  This was a cute idea but he wanted to write it in Egyptian hieroglyphs and I was supposed to tell him how to do it OVER THE PHONE!   :o  ???

'Okay, let's start.  Quail chick, dish, forearm, vulture, animal skin, face-forward human head, begin cartouche ...'

Because I don't read hieroglyphs,  this was total bushwah on my part but the request was absurd and I was feeling a bit frisky that day. 

At that point he decided that this was a bit more than he bargained for and hung up.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #20546 on: April 21, 2013, 08:48:34 PM »

After church, I mentioned to DH that it would have been better if one of our ushers approached the family and asked them to take the baby to the quiet room.  DH said that would be unkind and could turn that whole family away from attending the church.  I said OK, but what about Emily and her family, who we've all known for years?  Shouldn't we be concerned about their feelings, too?  I called the baby's family special snowflakes.  DH said they weren't, and maybe the mother was just nervous about leaving the baby in the baby nursery.  I said that would be fine, she could still go to the quiet room out of consideration to the rest of the congregation - even if there wasn't important ceremony going on.  It's polite to take a baby out of a quiet setting when he or she is crying.  He says that's not very welcoming.

So what say you?
They should have moved the child to the quiet room. When they didn't either the ushers or the minister should have told them to take the child out. I hope at the very least the minister or someone from the church makes it clear in the future crying babies should be removed. 
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« Reply #20547 on: April 21, 2013, 08:52:37 PM »

After church, I mentioned to DH that it would have been better if one of our ushers approached the family and asked them to take the baby to the quiet room.  DH said that would be unkind and could turn that whole family away from attending the church.  I said OK, but what about Emily and her family, who we've all known for years?  Shouldn't we be concerned about their feelings, too?  I called the baby's family special snowflakes.  DH said they weren't, and maybe the mother was just nervous about leaving the baby in the baby nursery.  I said that would be fine, she could still go to the quiet room out of consideration to the rest of the congregation - even if there wasn't important ceremony going on.  It's polite to take a baby out of a quiet setting when he or she is crying.  He says that's not very welcoming.

So what say you?
They should have moved the child to the quiet room. When they didn't either the ushers or the minister should have told them to take the child out. I hope at the very least the minister or someone from the church makes it clear in the future crying babies should be removed.

I agree with this.  If they are asked politely and kindly to have someone take the child outside until the child has calmed down, there is no reason why they should have their feelings hurt or feel unwelcome. 

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« Reply #20548 on: April 21, 2013, 08:54:58 PM »
I LOVE "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and listen to the soundtrack once a month, even not around halloween. Yesterday was one of those days. I had it one while I cleaned out my car - not loudly but enough that I could hear it as I cleaned and I had one door at a time as I moved around the car.  So I was leaned over fishing stuff out from under the seats and I hear "Excuse Me, You NEED to turn that off right now."  I stood up, turned around and found myself nosetonose with a woman I had never seen before. She repeated that I needed to turn the cd off.  I refused and turned around to clean  again.  She started again with 'That's a Christmas CD, you need not to have that where my kid can hear it - it's NOT Christmas. I am her mother and *I* decide what she can hear and when, not you."  I finally told her that if she did not like what I was listening too, she could leave my property because I was not turning it off. I was fairly sure that if she left my driveway and even went to wherever she and the kid had been walking too, they would not hear if once past my property line.
  When I refused and told her to leave she pounded her fist so hard that I was afraid the car trunk would be dented ( it wasn't) and told me that I was "going to ruin the magic of Christmas for her kid by listening to Christmas music this time of year."
  I still don't know who the heck she was. I don't want to , either.

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« Reply #20549 on: April 21, 2013, 09:02:19 PM »
I LOVE "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and listen to the soundtrack once a month, even not around halloween. Yesterday was one of those days. I had it one while I cleaned out my car - not loudly but enough that I could hear it as I cleaned and I had one door at a time as I moved around the car.  So I was leaned over fishing stuff out from under the seats and I hear "Excuse Me, You NEED to turn that off right now."  I stood up, turned around and found myself nosetonose with a woman I had never seen before. She repeated that I needed to turn the cd off.  I refused and turned around to clean  again.  She started again with 'That's a Christmas CD, you need not to have that where my kid can hear it - it's NOT Christmas. I am her mother and *I* decide what she can hear and when, not you."  I finally told her that if she did not like what I was listening too, she could leave my property because I was not turning it off. I was fairly sure that if she left my driveway and even went to wherever she and the kid had been walking too, they would not hear if once past my property line.
  When I refused and told her to leave she pounded her fist so hard that I was afraid the car trunk would be dented ( it wasn't) and told me that I was "going to ruin the magic of Christmas for her kid by listening to Christmas music this time of year."
  I still don't know who the heck she was. I don't want to , either.

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