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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22365 on: July 21, 2013, 08:58:08 PM »
Went to a restaurant where you bus your own table.  Prices for wonderful fresh food stay low and you don't tip.  I saw several tables that not only left their plates and trays on the table, but left a mess of food, napkins, wrappers, and crumbs all over the table and floor.  Gross.

To be fair, it's sometimes hard to tell at counter service restaurants whether you're supposed to bus your own table or not.  I wouldn't be surprised if I've left stuff on the table in places I shouldn't have, just because I looked around and didn't see a trash can and made an assumption which may have been incorrect.

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« Reply #22366 on: July 21, 2013, 09:22:05 PM »
Went to a restaurant where you bus your own table.  Prices for wonderful fresh food stay low and you don't tip.  I saw several tables that not only left their plates and trays on the table, but left a mess of food, napkins, wrappers, and crumbs all over the table and floor.  Gross.

To be fair, it's sometimes hard to tell at counter service restaurants whether you're supposed to bus your own table or not.  I wouldn't be surprised if I've left stuff on the table in places I shouldn't have, just because I looked around and didn't see a trash can and made an assumption which may have been incorrect.

It's very obvious you're suppose to bus yourself, but even if you don't do it, the mess I saw today was very extreme and disgusting.  Never saw such a mess at fast food or full-service.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22367 on: July 22, 2013, 12:09:58 AM »
I saw yesterday a woman who had parked her car on the road (not very busy but the main road to a small town), on top of a hill and it was illegal to pass her while she was talking on her phone. Fortunately she soon started driving again but it was pretty stupid.

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« Reply #22368 on: July 22, 2013, 11:53:43 AM »

Like Uncle said, "Well, his house fell off it's blocks*, so he's not living there anymore."

(*manufactured or mobile home, no foundation, up on cinder blocks)

I thought at first that was a euphemism.

Yeah, I thought people might not realize that was meant literally. Heck, Uncle needed to explain it to a room full of family members when he told us the story.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22369 on: July 22, 2013, 12:34:38 PM »
I frequently have to ask other customers to reach something for me.  I'm not exactly short, I'm 5'4" and I have long arms, but with my back problems, I can't stretch to reach things on higher shelves, or bend over to get things off lower shelves.

I can't imagine helping someone when they're as rude as some of the people mentioned. 

I usually say something like "Excuse me, may I borrow your height for a moment?", or "You look very strong.  Betcha can't lift that bag of dog food into my cart."  I'm probably not being nearly as clever as I think I am, but if it makes them smile and they help me, I count it as a win.  Of course, effusive thanks are always offered.

So is that rude on my part?  Should I only ask for help in a formal way?  Or is asking for help with a joke ok?
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« Reply #22370 on: July 22, 2013, 12:39:11 PM »
LadyDyani wrote:

"So is that rude on my part?  Should I only ask for help in a formal way?  Or is asking for help with a joke ok?"

My thought is that, as long as you make it obvious that it's a joke and as long as you're polite about someone declining, it's not a problem.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22371 on: July 22, 2013, 12:57:46 PM »
LadyDyani wrote:

"So is that rude on my part?  Should I only ask for help in a formal way?  Or is asking for help with a joke ok?"

My thought is that, as long as you make it obvious that it's a joke and as long as you're polite about someone declining, it's not a problem.

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I agree. If someone said this to me dead-pan, or with a pleasant smile, I wouldn't assume that they were joking, and would be offended. As long as you're making it pretty obvious, then that's awesome :)

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« Reply #22372 on: July 22, 2013, 01:02:38 PM »
I frequently have to ask other customers to reach something for me.  I'm not exactly short, I'm 5'4" and I have long arms, but with my back problems, I can't stretch to reach things on higher shelves, or bend over to get things off lower shelves.

I can't imagine helping someone when they're as rude as some of the people mentioned. 

I usually say something like "Excuse me, may I borrow your height for a moment?", or "You look very strong.  Betcha can't lift that bag of dog food into my cart."  I'm probably not being nearly as clever as I think I am, but if it makes them smile and they help me, I count it as a win.  Of course, effusive thanks are always offered.

So is that rude on my part?  Should I only ask for help in a formal way?  Or is asking for help with a joke ok?

I would not like either of those. The second sounds like you want them to prove something to you. And commenting on other peoples body is rude, if you want to make jokes. make them at your expense, not someone whose done nothing to deserve being the butt of jokes.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22373 on: July 22, 2013, 01:17:10 PM »
I frequently have to ask other customers to reach something for me.  I'm not exactly short, I'm 5'4" and I have long arms, but with my back problems, I can't stretch to reach things on higher shelves, or bend over to get things off lower shelves.

I can't imagine helping someone when they're as rude as some of the people mentioned. 

I usually say something like "Excuse me, may I borrow your height for a moment?", or "You look very strong.  Betcha can't lift that bag of dog food into my cart."  I'm probably not being nearly as clever as I think I am, but if it makes them smile and they help me, I count it as a win.  Of course, effusive thanks are always offered.

So is that rude on my part?  Should I only ask for help in a formal way?  Or is asking for help with a joke ok?

I would not like either of those. The second sounds like you want them to prove something to you. And commenting on other peoples body is rude, if you want to make jokes. make them at your expense, not someone whose done nothing to deserve being the butt of jokes.

The second one bothers me, but I'm not seeing a problem with the first. Then again that may be because I'd respond to it with a cheery "Whatcha need?".
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22374 on: July 22, 2013, 01:25:34 PM »
Unless I see a tall, fellow shopper I know, I go looking for an employee to help me get that package of toilet paper down from the top shelf. 

Years ago,  things used to be more fun.  The lightweight paper products were shelved high and there was a display of mops and brooms at the back end of the aisle.  It was expected that shoppers would use a broom to whack down the paper products they needed and then, politely replace the broom in the display.  The stuff was soft so no one was ever injured and no product was ever damaged but the whacking was a great tension release.  >:D

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22375 on: July 22, 2013, 01:37:52 PM »
I've had people ask me to help them with things while buying groceries. I'm a very non-confrontational looking person, so I get people asking me for directions on the street and so on literally daily. It carries over into the supermarket. Last week a little old lady asked me if I could please help her read the label on this sauce because her eyes just weren't what they used to be. She was very polite and I was happy to help--I left the situation feeling better than when I went in. Now that is the way to do it.

The trouble with jokes is that, if it's a stranger, you don't know your audience, so it's hard to judge what's the best way to do it. Maybe it's just best to err on the side of caution and just ask politely if you don't want to search for a store employee a dozen times during your shopping trip.

As I said before, unless you made it very obvious that it was a joke, I would find it off-putting. And I'm hardly an extreme; I sit somewhere in the bulky part of the bell curve. A lot of people would certainly be offended much more easily by a stranger suddenly making a joke about them. Snowdragon has a good point about not making comments about people's appearances (e.g. how strong they look, even if in jest).

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22376 on: July 22, 2013, 02:08:33 PM »
I frequently have to ask other customers to reach something for me.  I'm not exactly short, I'm 5'4" and I have long arms, but with my back problems, I can't stretch to reach things on higher shelves, or bend over to get things off lower shelves.

I can't imagine helping someone when they're as rude as some of the people mentioned. 

I usually say something like "Excuse me, may I borrow your height for a moment?", or "You look very strong.  Betcha can't lift that bag of dog food into my cart."  I'm probably not being nearly as clever as I think I am, but if it makes them smile and they help me, I count it as a win.  Of course, effusive thanks are always offered.

So is that rude on my part?  Should I only ask for help in a formal way?  Or is asking for help with a joke ok?

I wouldn't have a problem with the first, but the second would bother me.. it strikes me as kind of PA and I'd be doing an internal eye-roll and thinking, "Why don't you just ask for help if that's what you want?"  Of course, tone is everything.. I'm sure you're making it funnier than it comes across in text.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22377 on: July 22, 2013, 02:29:06 PM »
I've had people ask me to help them with things while buying groceries. I'm a very non-confrontational looking person, so I get people asking me for directions on the street and so on literally daily. It carries over into the supermarket. Last week a little old lady asked me if I could please help her read the label on this sauce because her eyes just weren't what they used to be. She was very polite and I was happy to help--I left the situation feeling better than when I went in. Now that is the way to do it.

The trouble with jokes is that, if it's a stranger, you don't know your audience, so it's hard to judge what's the best way to do it. Maybe it's just best to err on the side of caution and just ask politely if you don't want to search for a store employee a dozen times during your shopping trip.

As I said before, unless you made it very obvious that it was a joke, I would find it off-putting. And I'm hardly an extreme; I sit somewhere in the bulky part of the bell curve. A lot of people would certainly be offended much more easily by a stranger suddenly making a joke about them. Snowdragon has a good point about not making comments about people's appearances (e.g. how strong they look, even if in jest).

This is all very true!

Being 5'2" I've had to ask for help several times and, unfortunately, there are not always employees around to help. So I've asked for help on several occasions from other shoppers. I never joke except in one instance: if a man is with his wife I always talk to her and ask, "may I borrow your partner's height for a moment?" She and he will usually laugh then I direct my request to the male. Very nicely with many thank-you's. I've never had anyone be annoyed at me.

I've also asked tall women for help although if she was part of a couple I wouldn't feel the need to address the male partner.

I'm an equal opportunity favor-monger. :)

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22378 on: July 22, 2013, 02:38:47 PM »
That's a good point, although the "You look strong" line was used on a 14 year old boy, and he did grin and help me.

So a joke is ok, depending on the audience, but definitely no more teasing when asking for help.

Thanks.  :-)
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22379 on: July 22, 2013, 03:53:58 PM »
So I used to work for a Major American Airline. These are the two SS that really stood out. They both happened during a hurricane, I think it was Hurricane Irene.

First SS had requested a refund for his ticket since he wasn’t able to fly. Totally legit. No one has control over a hurricane; we issue a full refund, no problem. The problem was he wanted his money back NOW. He was not satisfied with the 3-5 business days, he needed that money back on his credit card IMMEDIATELY. I tried explaining that that was something he’d have to take up with his credit card company, and he could have been returning a shirt to Macy’s and it would still be 3-5 business days to get the charge taken off b/c that was industry standard. That was UNACCEPTABLE and he needed a supervisor NOW. I have no idea how that was resolved, but it’s not like we had any control over the credit card companies refund policies.

The other was a family that had been vacationing in Europe. Their flight back to NYC had been cancelled, so they were trying to reschedule. The problem was, there was nothing in to the NYC area. Which is really frustrating, it’s what we were dealing with all week since NYC got hit so hard. The SS came out when she played the doctor card. “Well, my husband and I are doctors with our own practices, and we need to get back to our patients!” I tried to be sympathetic. They volunteered to go through any European city. I finally had to flat out tell them, Look, it doesn’t matter what city you fly out of, I can’t get you into New York for the next week. There are no flights available into LaGuardia, JFK, Newark, White Plains, Albany, Boston, Providence, Philadelphia, nothing. She was Not Happy. But what did she want me to do? I can’t make another plane magically appear b/c she had an MD.

(I think we eventually manually forced the system to do a two-stop flight, connecting in one of the DC-area airports. A supervisor took care of that since it required us to basically write the fare up as if there was no computer. It was a long phone call.)