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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22905 on: August 16, 2013, 06:45:34 PM »
WOW, CrazyDaffodilLady.  What a prize!

I often want to snarl at drivers whom I see tapping their cigarette ash out of their cars' windows.  I feel like saying "You don't want it in your car?  I don't want it on my road."  And don't get me started about people who just toss their cigarette butts onto the ground.

Try being a motorcyclist when people chuck rubbish/cigarette butts out their cars  >:(

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22906 on: August 16, 2013, 07:27:07 PM »
I'd heard (strictly second-hand) that the old Hong Kong airport in fact had an excellent safety record. It was notorious as a horror to fly into and out of, so pilots doing so, were extremely careful and attentive...

Especially the old "Checkerboard Approach"

Sounds like the phenomenon where they take away the traffic lights and excessive highway signs, making a particular route seem more scary and dangerous.  Drivers are then more careful because they consider the route a dangerous one, without proper signage or traffic lights to tell them when they can go, and then you end up with fewer accidents overall because everybody is being so careful.  Heh.


I can see both sides of the stroller debate, too.  I've barely used the stroller since I had my third child (Ergo all the way), but my 10-month-old is both heavy and doesn't like being confined in the Ergo much anymore (she's always pinching my neck, if she's in the front, or pulling my hair if she's in the back).  And I also have a 3-year-old who gets tired quickly.  It can be very physically exhausting to transport them around.  Somehow it usually ends up working, but there are times a stroller would be really nice, if it wasn't too much work to dig out the stroller and clean it out because it's been too long since I last used it.  But strollers definitely take a lot of work to negotiate through crowds, and they take up a lot of room.

I can see both sides too, which is why I was just resigned, but I thought some of Snowdragon's ideas were really good, different solutions so that's why I wrote in. I regret to report, though, that now the NA has ticked me off. They replied with a completely canned email that was intended to look personal. Few things annoy me more. The first paragraph apologized for my "negative experience during my recent visit" - which I didn't describe or report (I said that I was offering general feedback") then three paragraphs lifted directly from the FAQs page. And not quoted, mind youa, as in "As you may have seen on our FAQs page, the reasons for our policy are..." but presented as though this was fresh writing directly to me (the FAQs page has that false friendly tone that I also find aggravating).  Then a final paragraph apologizing again for my negative visit and telling me all comments are "taken to heart."

Given that the canned, cut and paste reply appeared in my inbox within 30 minutes, I find it unlikely that my comments were taken to heart. I'd have respected them more if they just said "This is our policy, sorry it doesn't work for you, hope you can come back when our services better meet your family's needs."  At least that would be honest.

Oh well.  Looks like a Science Center membership next year. Or maybe the zoo...hmmm...
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22907 on: August 16, 2013, 07:48:15 PM »
What we call the 'Stroller Wars' have been going on in our neighborhood for years. 

There are lots and lots of children here. 

Most of the businesses are in 19th and early 20th century buildings.  Retail spaces and restaurants are not large. 

Many families favor the style of stroller that can be described as 'Baby's First Hummer'.  There simply isn't room for them in many places. 



If you live in the suburbs, you can drive your car to a restaurant and carry baby in.
If you live in the city, you use your stroller and walk/subway/bus to where you are going.  Then what do you do with the stroller once you get there?  I would hope you could fold it up and stow it out of the way.

And that is the reason I always had one of those umbrella style strollers that can be folded up really small in addition to a larger more roomy one. I do think it is SS to assume that every place you go to can accomodate your desire to have a massive sized stroller.

I had two strollers, the big one with the large wheels which was great for outdoor events (we do renaissance faires) that could handle gravel, tree roots, uneven terrain.  Then I had the umbrella one for things like the mall.
I had an umbrella stroller, and I loved it.  I could take the baby  out, hold her on one hip, and fold it in a matter of seconds.  MIL, for some reason, didn't like it. "But don't you want a REAL stroller?"  Nope. And I demonstrated why.  "Can't do that one-handed with a REAL stroller."

Only problem I had with it was in crowds in Italy; people would see what looked like an empty space in front of me and try to shove into it, without looking down to see the baby in the stroller. 
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22908 on: August 16, 2013, 08:05:20 PM »


I can see both sides too, which is why I was just resigned, but I thought some of Snowdragon's ideas were really good, different solutions so that's why I wrote in. I regret to report, though, that now the NA has ticked me off. They replied with a completely canned email that was intended to look personal. Few things annoy me more. The first paragraph apologized for my "negative experience during my recent visit" - which I didn't describe or report (I said that I was offering general feedback") then three paragraphs lifted directly from the FAQs page. And not quoted, mind youa, as in "As you may have seen on our FAQs page, the reasons for our policy are..." but presented as though this was fresh writing directly to me (the FAQs page has that false friendly tone that I also find aggravating).  Then a final paragraph apologizing again for my negative visit and telling me all comments are "taken to heart."

Given that the canned, cut and paste reply appeared in my inbox within 30 minutes, I find it unlikely that my comments were taken to heart. I'd have respected them more if they just said "This is our policy, sorry it doesn't work for you, hope you can come back when our services better meet your family's needs."  At least that would be honest.

Oh well.  Looks like a Science Center membership next year. Or maybe the zoo...hmmm...
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Mind if I email them? As a museum studies person, this type of stuff bugs the heck out of me.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22909 on: August 16, 2013, 08:23:59 PM »


I can see both sides too, which is why I was just resigned, but I thought some of Snowdragon's ideas were really good, different solutions so that's why I wrote in. I regret to report, though, that now the NA has ticked me off. They replied with a completely canned email that was intended to look personal. Few things annoy me more. The first paragraph apologized for my "negative experience during my recent visit" - which I didn't describe or report (I said that I was offering general feedback") then three paragraphs lifted directly from the FAQs page. And not quoted, mind youa, as in "As you may have seen on our FAQs page, the reasons for our policy are..." but presented as though this was fresh writing directly to me (the FAQs page has that false friendly tone that I also find aggravating).  Then a final paragraph apologizing again for my negative visit and telling me all comments are "taken to heart."

Given that the canned, cut and paste reply appeared in my inbox within 30 minutes, I find it unlikely that my comments were taken to heart. I'd have respected them more if they just said "This is our policy, sorry it doesn't work for you, hope you can come back when our services better meet your family's needs."  At least that would be honest.

Oh well.  Looks like a Science Center membership next year. Or maybe the zoo...hmmm...
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Mind if I email them? As a museum studies person, this type of stuff bugs the heck out of me.

Not at all, but perhaps wait a little. I may have replied to the canned email with an icily polite version of my post. Two such emails in one week and next thing you know well be in the front page as a "boycott" ;)

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22910 on: August 16, 2013, 10:58:09 PM »
That "more signs make people less attentive/cautious" has been in effect with the new 4 way stop near the elem school.  It was a 2 way, and never saw a problem, but once the two additional stop signs were added, I have seen every which a way of bad pedestrians! 

Not just jay-walking, but crossing in the middle of the intersection, straight across!  Or on-between cars, or wearing all black at 6am (the cars will stop, right?)

I as a driver am more cautious now to watch out for the idiots who assume every single driver will notice the new signs and obey them!
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22911 on: August 17, 2013, 12:48:34 AM »
WOW, CrazyDaffodilLady.  What a prize!

I often want to snarl at drivers whom I see tapping their cigarette ash out of their cars' windows.  I feel like saying "You don't want it in your car?  I don't want it on my road."  And don't get me started about people who just toss their cigarette butts onto the ground.

Try being a motorcyclist when people chuck rubbish/cigarette butts out their cars  >:(

I feel silly, but I've never thought of that (not that I ever throw things out of my car).  I hate hate hate seeing people toss stuff from a litter prevention standpoint, but that's terrible to think of the safety issue for motorcyclists!  I'm incensed on your/their behalf.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22912 on: August 17, 2013, 01:53:08 AM »
Good thing I know now never to go to that aquarium on my travels until kiddos are older! I can't carry baby/toddler for any length of time, even in a carrier- with a bad shoulder and elbow from a break that never healed properly combined with an auto-iummune disease, carrying kiddos is not in the cards for me.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22913 on: August 17, 2013, 02:44:49 AM »
WOW, CrazyDaffodilLady.  What a prize!

I often want to snarl at drivers whom I see tapping their cigarette ash out of their cars' windows.  I feel like saying "You don't want it in your car?  I don't want it on my road."  And don't get me started about people who just toss their cigarette butts onto the ground.

Try being a motorcyclist when people chuck rubbish/cigarette butts out their cars  >:(

I'm not a motorcyclists, but once while stuck in traffic I had a driver chuck his still smoking butt out the window and directly onto my windshield. It then rolled down until it rested on apparently on my air-intake vents because my car was immediately filled with the smell of cigarette smoke, which I'm horribly allergic to. He and his buddy (both well dressed men in their 40s) laughed at me while I frantically rolled down my windows and looked around, clearly contemplating how I was going to get that butt off.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22914 on: August 17, 2013, 03:29:21 AM »
I'd heard (strictly second-hand) that the old Hong Kong airport in fact had an excellent safety record. It was notorious as a horror to fly into and out of, so pilots doing so, were extremely careful and attentive...

Especially the old "Checkerboard Approach"

Not having heard of this (I've never been to Hong Kong, either in old- or new-airport times), I Googled it. A huge orange-and-white checkerboard display on a hill, which was the signal for the pilot to make a sharp turn... those fellows certainly earned their pay, serving that particular destination !

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22915 on: August 17, 2013, 04:09:24 AM »
I'd heard (strictly second-hand) that the old Hong Kong airport in fact had an excellent safety record. It was notorious as a horror to fly into and out of, so pilots doing so, were extremely careful and attentive...

Especially the old "Checkerboard Approach"

Not having heard of this (I've never been to Hong Kong, either in old- or new-airport times), I Googled it. A huge orange-and-white checkerboard display on a hill, which was the signal for the pilot to make a sharp turn... those fellows certainly earned their pay, serving that particular destination !

I can confirm that the old HK airport was a nightmare to fly into! For anyone who is interested:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2356942/Incredible-pictures-airplane-near-misses-EXACTLY-worlds-dangerous-airport-Hong-Kong-shut-15-years-ago.html

I currently am based in HK for work, and many of my friends who have been here for years attest how freaky it was.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22916 on: August 17, 2013, 06:25:30 AM »
I can confirm that the old HK airport was a nightmare to fly into! For anyone who is interested:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2356942/Incredible-pictures-airplane-near-misses-EXACTLY-worlds-dangerous-airport-Hong-Kong-shut-15-years-ago.html

I currently am based in HK for work, and many of my friends who have been here for years attest how freaky it was.

Amazing pics -- thanks. Those showing the aircraft flying by, or between, the high-rise blocks, were particularly scary. I wonder for whom it was more alarming -- the people on the planes, or the inhabitants of the high-rise flats?

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22917 on: August 17, 2013, 06:37:04 AM »
I've flown in/out of the old airport four times, Kai Tak, (on my way Australia to England and return both times) and the new airport twice (Australia/Canada return).  With the old airport, I can't remember flying between the tower blocks on Nathan Road or the take offs, but I remember one of the landings and being awed and a bit scared by it.  The fourth time we were leaving HK to go home, my mum and I were in the taxi taking us to the airport and had just reached the terminal when this almighty roar went over us, we both flinched in the car and then realised it was a plane which had just taken off and was clearing (just) the terminal.  The new airport is fantastic and when DH & I were waiting for our flight to Canada we got to see the planes taking off (our gate overlooked that part of the runway), they still seem to bank quite steeply as there's a major road not far away from the runway end but nothing like Kai Tak.  They're making Kai Tak into a cruise ship terminal.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22918 on: August 17, 2013, 07:15:51 AM »
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I can see both sides too, which is why I was just resigned, but I thought some of Snowdragon's ideas were really good, different solutions so that's why I wrote in. I regret to report, though, that now the NA has ticked me off. They replied with a completely canned email that was intended to look personal. Few things annoy me more. The first paragraph apologized for my "negative experience during my recent visit" - which I didn't describe or report (I said that I was offering general feedback") then three paragraphs lifted directly from the FAQs page. And not quoted, mind youa, as in "As you may have seen on our FAQs page, the reasons for our policy are..." but presented as though this was fresh writing directly to me (the FAQs page has that false friendly tone that I also find aggravating).  Then a final paragraph apologizing again for my negative visit and telling me all comments are "taken to heart."

Given that the canned, cut and paste reply appeared in my inbox within 30 minutes, I find it unlikely that my comments were taken to heart. I'd have respected them more if they just said "This is our policy, sorry it doesn't work for you, hope you can come back when our services better meet your family's needs."  At least that would be honest.

Oh well.  Looks like a Science Center membership next year. Or maybe the zoo...hmmm...
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #22919 on: August 17, 2013, 07:28:53 AM »
A special snowflake I encountered the other day at the little ice cream store across the street.  I had a buck and wanted to get some chips (they also serve meals and snacks) so I went in there with a buck and grabbed the chips I wanted and got in line.

Behind a guy who was on his phone and then when he got up to the register for his turn, he took his sweet time trying to figure out what he wanted while still holding his phone to his ear.  He did hang up, at least, mid-order, but I wanted to say "Figure out what you want before you get to the counter instead of jabbering on your phone!"  ::) 

And to add to it, he was exhibiting one of my fashion pet peeves, boxers being displayed intentionally.
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