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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24510 on: November 23, 2013, 12:38:11 PM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.
The Mother should be charged with vandalism for allowing him to damage the memorial.

6 years ago 3 boys were charged "with committing an “unregulated high risk activity” which is a law also designed to stop people parachuting, hang-gliding or base jumping from buildings or structures." for climbing on the same memorial.
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/trio-apologise-climbing-memorial/329917/
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24511 on: November 23, 2013, 02:13:45 PM »
Started a spin off thread for all the interesting grammar and spelling trivia.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24512 on: November 23, 2013, 04:15:03 PM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.
There is no way that that little bandage on the kid's head covers a 10-cm long gash.  (For those of us in the non-metric US, that's a hair short of four inches.)  *I* clonked my own head in almost the same place when something I was sawing got kicked up by the saw.  There was a gash, there was considerable blood, and while it was sore for several weeks, I'm not "scarred for life."  This was in August, and now you can't even tell where it was.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24513 on: November 23, 2013, 06:43:03 PM »
This is the war memorial in question. http://monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/conflict/multiple/display/90370-h.m.a.s.-brisbane

It seems the child was walking on the stone wall near the memorial in the second and third photos not the main memorial that the older boys were arrested for climbing. So it was a child walking on a wall which has a big sandstone block in the middle of it. That block should not have been loose. The council should consider themselves lucky that it didn't fall by someone leaning on it at some other time when someone was standing under the wall.

Kids walk on the top of walls all the time. It's great for building balance. I wouldn't let my son walk on a wall that high, but I am a little protective. And I don't see a big issue with a child walking on a wall on a war memorial in a park. Kids play on the walls and some exhibits (like the big guns) at our main memorial in Canberra all the time and some of my wonderful childhood memories are playing on the guns and the decommissioned tanks they had.

Not saying the Mum isn't overreacting to this but she's probably had a big shock and that block should have been properly secured.

Edited as I just remembered why they closed an exhibit to being played on and it is a sensitive matter between Australia and Japan.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24514 on: November 23, 2013, 08:17:00 PM »
If the wall is part of the memorial I would liken it to allowing a child to climb on head stones in a grave yard.

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« Reply #24515 on: November 23, 2013, 09:00:50 PM »
If the wall is part of the memorial I would liken it to allowing a child to climb on head stones in a grave yard.

Exactly. It's disrespectful. Go climb on a wall in a park if you want to. A memorial is not the place to play on.

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« Reply #24516 on: November 23, 2013, 09:58:57 PM »
This is the war memorial in question. http://monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/conflict/multiple/display/90370-h.m.a.s.-brisbane

It seems the child was walking on the stone wall near the memorial in the second and third photos not the main memorial that the older boys were arrested for climbing. So it was a child walking on a wall which has a big sandstone block in the middle of it. That block should not have been loose. The council should consider themselves lucky that it didn't fall by someone leaning on it at some other time when someone was standing under the wall.

Kids walk on the top of walls all the time. It's great for building balance. I wouldn't let my son walk on a wall that high, but I am a little protective. And I don't see a big issue with a child walking on a wall on a war memorial in a park. Kids play on the walls and some exhibits (like the big guns) at our main memorial in Canberra all the time and some of my wonderful childhood memories are playing on the guns and the decommissioned tanks they had.

Not saying the Mum isn't overreacting to this but she's probably had a big shock and that block should have been properly secured.

Edited as I just remembered why they closed an exhibit to being played on and it is a sensitive matter between Australia and Japan.

Well, one reason why you do not walk on walls is that they are not designed for that, and safety features that we would expect to find in, say, playground climbing structures are not in place.

Basically, the woman is complaining that she let her child climb on something that could be dangerous, and WHOA! it was dangerous! How could she possibly have predicted that?
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24517 on: November 23, 2013, 10:48:51 PM »
If the wall is part of the memorial I would liken it to allowing a child to climb on head stones in a grave yard.

Exactly. It's disrespectful. Go climb on a wall in a park if you want to. A memorial is not the place to play on.

I disagree especially in this case as this memorial is for a ship (which was scuttled near there and named after the city it is in), not for people and no-one died in war related to this ship. Also Australians do seem to be less serious towards our defence forces and war history than some other countries.

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« Reply #24518 on: November 23, 2013, 11:25:35 PM »
Re: the guns and decommissioned tanks at the Australian War Memorial. You're not allowed to climb on them, there's signs around saying that. Not that it stops people of all ages. And I think Australians are becoming more respectful towards our war history. Every year the number of people going to ANZAC Day ceremonies grows.

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« Reply #24519 on: November 24, 2013, 06:40:08 AM »

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I'd been teaching his son in reading about silent e, and how it makes vowels say their name rather than their short sound (e.g. hop vs hope, sit vs site, etc.) which is useful, since there are literally hundreds of such words in English, including a lot of very common ones.

The dirty word? "nude"   ...


I loved your story, but I'm sitting here wondering what a 'nud' would be?   ;D

I take it that some words were just random words without a "no silent e" counterpart?

Of course there's the fact that for many of us, "nude" doesn't fit the silent-e-makes-vowels-say-their name "rule." I pronounce it "nood" not "newd"; (to keep it on topic) how about "rude"? Pretty much all of those "rules" are worthless in English. It would be fine if there were just a couple of exceptions but there are almost as many exceptions as examples that conform.  I may be weird, but I think i-before-e is another worthless one; who needs a "rule" that has two exceptions built in and lots of counter-examples, even to the exceptions? But perhaps I should rein in my irritation and stop being so scientific about it.

As someone who teaches this sort of thing, and who has observed literally hundreds of children learn and practice such rules before picking up a book and being able to read it for the first time, let me assure you that there are several extremely useful rules in English, where it's much easier to learn a single rule and a dozen exceptions than to just memorise the spelling and pronunciation of several hundred otherwise easy-to-learn words. I before e is not such a rule--it's often used as an example of English spelling rules and it's a terrible one, because the exceptions greatly outnumber the adherents. It's out of date and isn't even taught here or in Australia any more, nor has it been for decades, because it's so useless. Actual rules like whether or not a c is soft (basically always unless it's followed by an e, i, or y) are tremendously useful, and their exceptions are terribly few and often not words a child would even know. Silent k and g is another rule we teach: if a word starts with kn/gn, then the k/g is silent. The exceptions are incredibly few, and aren't words that even the majority of adults would know.

Here, "nude" is pronounced "nyood", if that helps. And I didn't go into detail because I felt it wasn't relevant to my original post, but the magic e and u actually has two options: u can either say "yoo" or just "oo" depending on the word. There is a reason for this which is technical and irrelevant here. But of the two options, only ever one is an actual word, and the other is gibberish, so you always know what to go with. I have lists of all English words (found in the dictionary, anyway) for each rule (typically hundreds or thousands depending on the rule) and all their exceptions (often a few dozen at most). So let me please assure you that there are not "almost as many exceptions as examples that conform" at all.

Sharing the earworm I got from this discussion:

http://youtu.be/91BQqdNOUxs

I doubt it would help with the very strange father in the original post, though.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24520 on: November 24, 2013, 09:26:14 AM »
If the wall is part of the memorial I would liken it to allowing a child to climb on head stones in a grave yard.

Exactly. It's disrespectful. Go climb on a wall in a park if you want to. A memorial is not the place to play on.

I disagree especially in this case as this memorial is for a ship (which was scuttled near there and named after the city it is in), not for people and no-one died in war related to this ship. Also Australians do seem to be less serious towards our defence forces and war history than some other countries.

It could have been a memorial to a llama farm, but there would not be a guarantee that the wall had been approved as child-safe.
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« Reply #24521 on: November 25, 2013, 06:56:57 PM »
Here's one my mother ran into on a Facebook group...Special Snowflake I Want A Dog.

There's a woman who br*eeds and sells standard poodles in this group, and SSIWAD decided, well, she wanted one. Now, this would be perfectly alright, if not for the ridiculous requests this SS then made.

She wanted to get the dog for either free, or nearly free, AND she wanted the br*eeder to deliver it to her, several states away, because she doesn't have a car.

Of course, the br*eeder said no, she wasn't comfortable with selling one of her dogs to this woman, and got chewed out up one side and down the other in absolutely filthy language.

My flabber is utterly gasted. :-\
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« Reply #24522 on: November 25, 2013, 08:13:45 PM »
Ugh. It's ninnies that that who drive the good b-reeders out of the business.
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« Reply #24523 on: November 25, 2013, 08:32:02 PM »
Ugh. It's ninnies that that who drive the good b-reeders out of the business.
I do not mean to be argumentative, but I do not understand how you got from a completely unreasonable Special Snowflake wanting a br33der to bring them a free dog to "ninnies that drive the good [ones] out of business."  A good one would simply decline the honor; It wouldn't put them out of business.

I don't know who chewed this lady out in absolutely filthy language.  The language alone would convince me that I could not care less what these people have to say.  They certainly aren't my target demographic for poodle sales.  The lady with the poodles won't lose any customers over this FB snow flurry.  In fact, now she will have more free time since she doesn't need to invest any more time in this vicious, unreasonable group.
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« Reply #24524 on: November 25, 2013, 09:05:01 PM »
Ugh. It's ninnies that that who drive the good b-reeders out of the business.
I do not mean to be argumentative, but I do not understand how you got from a completely unreasonable Special Snowflake wanting a br33der to bring them a free dog to "ninnies that drive the good [ones] out of business."  A good one would simply decline the honor; It wouldn't put them out of business.

I don't know who chewed this lady out in absolutely filthy language.  The language alone would convince me that I could not care less what these people have to say.  They certainly aren't my target demographic for poodle sales.  The lady with the poodles won't lose any customers over this FB snow flurry.  In fact, now she will have more free time since she doesn't need to invest any more time in this vicious, unreasonable group.

I think she meant that it's unreasonable people that cause the nice bre*ders to not want to deal with the crazy any more.