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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24510 on: November 23, 2013, 03:24:36 AM »
Ah yes, "I before E except after C.  Or when you're running a feisty heist with your weird beige foreign neighbours called Keith and Sheila".

That always reminds me of this wonderful bit on Qi.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24511 on: November 23, 2013, 05:19:18 AM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.
The Mother should be charged with vandalism for allowing him to damage the memorial.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24512 on: November 23, 2013, 11:15:13 AM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.

He shouldn't have been there anyway....

Why not?

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24513 on: November 23, 2013, 11:28:21 AM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.

He shouldn't have been there anyway....

Why not?

I wish there was a picture, but from the sound of it there was a wall around the memorial to keep people away from it. He should not have been climbing all over it.

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« Reply #24514 on: November 23, 2013, 11:30:19 AM »
We actually use a reading/spelling program that says that, despite what people think, most of English *does* follow rules.  The problem is that people just don't know that many of them.  Yes, i is often before e, but there are classes of words that have ei (like neighbor, weigh, etc.), etc.  I have learned *so* much from it!  Like why have and give have an e at the end... because English words don't end with v.  And why horse has an e at the end... because it clarifies that it's an s sound, but not a plural word.  Sometimes the words are borrowed words so they follow the rules of the language they come from, etc.  You see that in some ie/ei words that come from the German, where two vowels generally means you pronounce the second vowel as a long sound.

I think that the silent e making the vowel says it's name is made clearer if you say that the silent e makes the vowel *long*.  The problem is that kids often have trouble understanding what a long vowel is.  So we often say that a long vowel is when the vowel says it's name.  It's true for most of the vowels, but u can either say yoo or just oo.  So you have to give that little bit of explanation in there.  I think there is actually a rule for when it makes the yoo sound (cute) or just the oo sound (nude), probably something to do with the consonant that comes before it, but we haven't gotten to that lesson yet.  :)

This reading/spelling program is so interesting that my husband will actually listen in from the next room, and we'll be in mid lesson, and we'll suddenly hear him say, "Really?  Wow!  I never knew that was why that worked that way!" or whatever.  It's pretty funny.

I know how you feel! It's great when you start to realise how regular English is, despite what we're all told and how irregular we all tend to assume it is. Your reading/spelling program sounds pretty cool. The silent e can either go "yoo" or "oo" with u, yes, and there is a straightforward rule to tell which is which. As with most rules in English, it's very near 100%, also.

It's always great to see children who previously couldn't read a thing learn a dozen rules really well and then, a few weeks later, suddenly be able to pick up a book or a newspaper and just start reading off the bat. The trouble is, not many people know the rules, so they end up learning a whole bunch of individual cases instead of the one general thing that covers them all.

SS dad returned today, actually. He was unimpressed that his son learnt the word "girl" before "boy" (we teach the er/ir/ur diphthong before the oi/oy one for no particular reason except that it's more common...) and made this known very loudly and disruptively. As is almost always the case, sadly, the unreasonable parents tend not to just strike once. Still, I thought we'd get at least a week of peace.

Too bad for his son. He's above his grade level in reading and spelling by now at least, I suppose. Poor kid.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24515 on: November 23, 2013, 11:53:07 AM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.

He shouldn't have been there anyway....

Why not?

I meant climbing all over the memorial. And the way the article describes it the boy was climbing on top of the flat memorial (sounds pretty high up) and he stepped over the plaque that was on top of where he was walking slipped and fell and the plaque fell after him... my question is: why was the plaque on top anyway? wouldnt that you know, make it kinda hard to read? 

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24516 on: November 23, 2013, 12:30:25 PM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.

He shouldn't have been there anyway....

Why not?

I meant climbing all over the memorial. And the way the article describes it the boy was climbing on top of the flat memorial (sounds pretty high up) and he stepped over the plaque that was on top of where he was walking slipped and fell and the plaque fell after him... my question is: why was the plaque on top anyway? wouldnt that you know, make it kinda hard to read?

Doesn't really matter why the plaque was on top - the kid shouldn't have been mucking up there.

Actually, I hope the whoever owns the memorial sues the woman for the cost of repair.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24517 on: November 23, 2013, 12:38:11 PM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.
The Mother should be charged with vandalism for allowing him to damage the memorial.

6 years ago 3 boys were charged "with committing an “unregulated high risk activity” which is a law also designed to stop people parachuting, hang-gliding or base jumping from buildings or structures." for climbing on the same memorial.
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/trio-apologise-climbing-memorial/329917/
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24518 on: November 23, 2013, 02:13:45 PM »
Started a spin off thread for all the interesting grammar and spelling trivia.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24519 on: November 23, 2013, 04:15:03 PM »
I would like to nominate both the mother and child in this story:
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/angry-mum-may-sue/2089577/

the gist: the 7 year old boy was climbing all over a war memorial, fell off, dislodged a plaque on the way down that landed on him and gashed his head. Mum is going to sue the council.

what I think isn't really printable.
There is no way that that little bandage on the kid's head covers a 10-cm long gash.  (For those of us in the non-metric US, that's a hair short of four inches.)  *I* clonked my own head in almost the same place when something I was sawing got kicked up by the saw.  There was a gash, there was considerable blood, and while it was sore for several weeks, I'm not "scarred for life."  This was in August, and now you can't even tell where it was.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24520 on: November 23, 2013, 06:43:03 PM »
This is the war memorial in question. http://monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/conflict/multiple/display/90370-h.m.a.s.-brisbane

It seems the child was walking on the stone wall near the memorial in the second and third photos not the main memorial that the older boys were arrested for climbing. So it was a child walking on a wall which has a big sandstone block in the middle of it. That block should not have been loose. The council should consider themselves lucky that it didn't fall by someone leaning on it at some other time when someone was standing under the wall.

Kids walk on the top of walls all the time. It's great for building balance. I wouldn't let my son walk on a wall that high, but I am a little protective. And I don't see a big issue with a child walking on a wall on a war memorial in a park. Kids play on the walls and some exhibits (like the big guns) at our main memorial in Canberra all the time and some of my wonderful childhood memories are playing on the guns and the decommissioned tanks they had.

Not saying the Mum isn't overreacting to this but she's probably had a big shock and that block should have been properly secured.

Edited as I just remembered why they closed an exhibit to being played on and it is a sensitive matter between Australia and Japan.
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24521 on: November 23, 2013, 08:17:00 PM »
If the wall is part of the memorial I would liken it to allowing a child to climb on head stones in a grave yard.

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« Reply #24522 on: November 23, 2013, 09:00:50 PM »
If the wall is part of the memorial I would liken it to allowing a child to climb on head stones in a grave yard.

Exactly. It's disrespectful. Go climb on a wall in a park if you want to. A memorial is not the place to play on.

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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24523 on: November 23, 2013, 09:58:57 PM »
This is the war memorial in question. http://monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/conflict/multiple/display/90370-h.m.a.s.-brisbane

It seems the child was walking on the stone wall near the memorial in the second and third photos not the main memorial that the older boys were arrested for climbing. So it was a child walking on a wall which has a big sandstone block in the middle of it. That block should not have been loose. The council should consider themselves lucky that it didn't fall by someone leaning on it at some other time when someone was standing under the wall.

Kids walk on the top of walls all the time. It's great for building balance. I wouldn't let my son walk on a wall that high, but I am a little protective. And I don't see a big issue with a child walking on a wall on a war memorial in a park. Kids play on the walls and some exhibits (like the big guns) at our main memorial in Canberra all the time and some of my wonderful childhood memories are playing on the guns and the decommissioned tanks they had.

Not saying the Mum isn't overreacting to this but she's probably had a big shock and that block should have been properly secured.

Edited as I just remembered why they closed an exhibit to being played on and it is a sensitive matter between Australia and Japan.

Well, one reason why you do not walk on walls is that they are not designed for that, and safety features that we would expect to find in, say, playground climbing structures are not in place.

Basically, the woman is complaining that she let her child climb on something that could be dangerous, and WHOA! it was dangerous! How could she possibly have predicted that?
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Re: Special Snowflake Stories
« Reply #24524 on: November 23, 2013, 10:48:51 PM »
If the wall is part of the memorial I would liken it to allowing a child to climb on head stones in a grave yard.

Exactly. It's disrespectful. Go climb on a wall in a park if you want to. A memorial is not the place to play on.

I disagree especially in this case as this memorial is for a ship (which was scuttled near there and named after the city it is in), not for people and no-one died in war related to this ship. Also Australians do seem to be less serious towards our defence forces and war history than some other countries.