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did I do good?
« on: December 15, 2006, 06:43:31 AM »
Last week, my friend Paul asked me if I wanted to get together this week and hang out or do something, just to get me out of the house. I said sure, so we set a date (Tuesday) and we ended up going to In-N-Out Burger. I hadn't actually been to In-N-Out in a while (though I live no further than 10 miles from 2 of them) and neither had he, so he was all for the idea.

On Monday, he MySpaced me and told me that "Randy and I" were going to be coming by to pick me up after work. Well...I didn't have a clue who Randy was, and I hadn't had much of a chance to talk to Paul all weekend, so it was kind of a curveball.

When I finally did get a chance to ask who Randy was, turns out Randy's an old HS friend of his who asked if he could come along because he loves In-N-Out, too, and he (Paul) felt bad saying no. Paul figured I would have no problem with this, so he said sure. I didn't have a huge problem with it - after all, we're just friends, and all we were doing was going to get a burger and hang out. But I was a tiny bit annoyed at not being at least informed ahead of time that there were going to be 3 of us, not 2.

On top of that, his friend has a little dog, an adorable miniature dachshund, that he takes everywhere with him, even to work. Which I didn't know until they were about five minutes from my house. I'm OK with small-to-medium sized dogs, so I had no real problems with this, except that: 1) my mom doesn't really like dogs, and I live with her, and 2) my infant niece and nephew were in the house at the time. I had to tell him I was fine with him bringing the dog along, but unfortunately, he'd have to leave the dog in the car. I felt really bad, because it was cold and a little rainy Tuesday night.

Later on, when Randy was outside letting the dog go (I told him it was OK to use the edge of our yard) and Paul was inside with me, checking out my new laptop, Paul apologized for Randy inviting himself along and bringing the dog with him without really checking with me at all first. He admitted that Randy was "a little weird about the dog" (I'll say!) and that he wanted to spend more time one-on-one with me (in fact, he'd really wanted to be with just me), so he'd be back next week, on his own. We had to cut our time short as it was, because Randy's dad locked himself out of their house and Randy was the only one with the key. Paul seemed really reluctant to leave - we hugged and kissed (platonically, I assure you!) for a good 5-10 minutes.

I told him it was OK, but next time to give me a little advance warning. I'm fairly flexible and laidback, but I was kind of disappointed, because I didn't get time to myself with my friend (OK, so I really like him. A lot), which I really wanted.

I'm pretty sure I didn't let the disappointment show through. Randy was a sweet guy - if a little bit weird about the dog. And I did my best not to make him feel like a third wheel. I introduced him to my parents, my brother, and my baby niece and nephew (my brother and the kids were visiting that night while my SIL was at a party with her moms' club) - even though I had barely just met him myself.  I included him in our joking and teasing, and made conversation with him and stuff (even though I forgot his name at one point - oops!).

I felt bad for the guy, and even though I really, really wanted my time alone with Paul, I figured I'd go with the spirit of the season and say, "The more, the merrier!" He was a nice guy, but I don't want this to become a pattern, either. One of my pet peeves is people who invite themselves along to things (I had a roommate in college who did this constantly, and it drove me crazy), but I don't want Paul to think I'm a total selfish witch, either.

Did I do OK, considering?


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Re: did I do good?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2006, 07:21:40 AM »
Quick!   Grab the broom and sweep Randy into the depths of E-Hell for inviting himself along!   

It sounds like Paul has a thing for you. 8)

Well, SOMEONE had to say it!

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2006, 07:52:45 AM »
You did fine! When DH and I started dating we practically had to beat off third-wheels with a stick. (Don't know if that's a good sign or not) and we started out platonic as well. And yes, he was dating another girl when we first met. AND (oh boy, sounds familiar) he broke up with her all on his own ... I didn't intervene (although I was tempted, she manipulated and used him up down and sideways. Fortunately he had enough a backbone to recognize it and dump her.)

You did fine. And although he shouldn't have caved at least he was honest with you and promised to make it up to you later.  :D

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2006, 08:12:24 AM »
Did I do OK, considering?

Oh, yes! It shows you are a good humoured and generous person who is not clinging and desperate. And such exemplary behaviour will make Paul like you even more - no one likes to be made to feel bad, and they appreciate it even more when you could have done and didn't.

we hugged and kissed (platonically, I assure you!) for a good 5-10 minutes.

Oh, YEAH? I'm not sure that platonically-with-intent lets you QUITE off the hook :-)

Oh, I love a good romance! I'm crossing my fingers for you. And it's so nice of you to let your virtual friends share in the excitement of all this!

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2006, 10:30:29 AM »
we hugged and kissed (platonically, I assure you!) for a good 5-10 minutes.

Oh, YEAH? I'm not sure that platonically-with-intent lets you QUITE off the hook :-)

Oh, I love a good romance! I'm crossing my fingers for you. And it's so nice of you to let your virtual friends share in the excitement of all this!

Especially since living vicariously through MB's love life means I don't have to worry about my own. :P  WTG Girl!  You'll get that guy yet!  Here's hoping (and expecting) that he's worth getting.  YAY Love!  for other people

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2006, 11:26:24 AM »
It's also possible that Paul was just as nervous as you were, and maybe *that* is why when Randy invited himself along, Paul didn't say no.  Seriously, I didn't know this until quite recently but guys get nervous before dates too.  For our first *real* date my BF and I went to the movies and during the course of conversation I found out that he had specifically gone out and bought the shirt he was wearing on our date, for our date.  It was the cutest thing ever especially when he blushed when I teased him about it  ;)

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2006, 12:07:31 PM »
we hugged and kissed (platonically, I assure you!) for a good 5-10 minutes.

Oh, YEAH? I'm not sure that platonically-with-intent lets you QUITE off the hook :-)

HEY! Where did this hook come from and why am I hanging on it...?  ??? ;D

He's the one who reached down and took my hand and kissed it before he left. So who's the one showing intent now?  :P

He didn't have a reason to kiss my hand - last time he did so was because I was still in the halo, we were standing inside his car door, and there wasn't quite enough room for him to bend down and kiss my cheek - he missed and hit himself but good with one of the halo pins, so he reached for my hand and kissed my hand instead.

This time around, I had no halo. So let me off the hook (...please?); I'm not the one who started it!!  :P ;)
« Last Edit: December 15, 2006, 12:12:18 PM by MsMoonbunny »

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2006, 12:23:29 PM »
This time around, I had no halo. So let me off the hook (...please?); I'm not the one who started it!!  :P ;)

Nope.... that hook is in you good.  You don't have to start it to participate.  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2006, 01:12:31 PM »

Nope.... that hook is in you good.  You don't have to start it to participate.  ;D

Quite right! I would have believed the kissing and hugging was platonic - if it hadn't gone on for five minutes. Five minutes! Most hugs take five seconds, tops. MoonBunny was in there for at least 300 seconds. That's sixty times as long as a platonic hug should take! And there was kissing... multiple kissing instances...

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2006, 01:17:27 PM »
HEY! Where did this hook come from and why am I hanging on it...?  ??? ;D

He's the one who reached down and took my hand and kissed it before he left. So who's the one showing intent now?  :P


Well now, you were the one who said - and I quote - "we hugged and kissed (platonically, I assure you!) for a good 5-10 minutes." I'm not sure there was any reason for a platonic (free from physical desire) friend to invest the time.  ;D

And the hook is as old as nature itself...

Really, I do hope you get your next date with Paul soon and he makes you happy. I can feel some magic coming off this...

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2006, 01:19:56 PM »
I think you did fine.

Randy had no business inviting himself, much less his dog, on your outing.

If you choose to see Paul again, make sure he understands that it should be just the two of you-no one else, no dog else.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2006, 01:24:24 PM »
Okay, I think you behaved wonderfully. I was reading your story and was so APPALLED at both of those men. #1, you do NOT invite yourself along with someone else, and # 2, you do NOT say OKAY to someone who has invited themself along without first confirming with all other parties!!

I do not socialize well. I am okay 1 on 1 with... well, anyone I'd bother to socialize with, lol. But more than just me and one other person and I am not very comfortable - even if they are both good friends of mine! if one of those people was someone I didn't know? I'd clam up and barely utter a word all night. Knowing this about myself, if I were you I'd have told Paul "Oh, no, that's okay. Why don't you and Randy hang out on Tuesday. You and I can catch up some other time." All super-casual, even if I felt like CRYING inside.

*sigh*

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Re: did I do good?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2006, 01:52:54 PM »
If you choose to see Paul again, make sure he understands that it should be just the two of you-no one else, no dog else.

oh, it seems like he wanted the one-on-one time as much as I did. And I made it clear that this time, I was letting it slide (although there was no graceful way to get out of it), but next time, he needed to check with me first if someone else was coming along. I know he shouldn't have said yes to his friend coming along, but he knew it too and he apologized and told me that next week is "our" time. Just him and me. I'm kind of hoping I can get him to come over tonight, but that's a whole other thread - literally - in the I Need a Hug folder.

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2006, 02:29:45 PM »
Okay, I think you behaved wonderfully. I was reading your story and was so APPALLED at both of those men. #1, you do NOT invite yourself along with someone else, and # 2, you do NOT say OKAY to someone who has invited themself along without first confirming with all other parties!!

I do not socialize well. I am okay 1 on 1 with... well, anyone I'd bother to socialize with, lol. But more than just me and one other person and I am not very comfortable - even if they are both good friends of mine! if one of those people was someone I didn't know? I'd clam up and barely utter a word all night. Knowing this about myself, if I were you I'd have told Paul "Oh, no, that's okay. Why don't you and Randy hang out on Tuesday. You and I can catch up some other time." All super-casual, even if I felt like CRYING inside.

*sigh*

Great job Msmoonbunny!!

You know, I surprised myself, too, because I'm also much better at the one-on-one than socializing in a group - even if it's a group of three - when there's someone else involved who I don't already know. And I didn't want to kick up a big fuss and act like it was a total imposition, because really, it was just one person; he did all the driving; and I didn't pay for my own dinner. Like I said, Paul recognized that it was rude and he apologized for it - so I will give him some credit.

It wasn't that big of a deal because Randy turned out to be really sweet. If he had been a complete jerk, I would have been really upset. And it would have shown. But since he turned out to be a nice guy, I wasn't that bothered - just a little bit annoyed, especially when the evening got cut short by his dad locking himself out of their house.

I was tempted - VERY tempted - to tell Paul to stay a little longer and get someone in my family to drive him to the BART station so he could get home, because I felt that certain "vibe" to actually kiss - and not just on the cheek this time - was there. You know how you get that feeling? When he kissed my hand, and looked back up at me and grinned - there was just that "moment" - but I held myself back and settled for a long hug instead.

I can't stop thinking of that moment. I wanted to kiss him; I really did. But the circumstances weren't completely "right," so I held myself back. But if his friend hadn't been there...if the evening hadn't been cut short...if we'd been able to spend more time together like we wanted...I think that kiss would've come.

I might be totally wrong, but I just can't shake off the feeling that there's something there. But I'm terrified of jumping the gun, so I'm trying to play it cool and keep it loose.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2006, 02:33:41 PM »
I can't stop thinking of that moment. I wanted to kiss him; I really did. But the circumstances weren't completely "right," so I held myself back. But if his friend hadn't been there...if the evening hadn't been cut short...if we'd been able to spend more time together like we wanted...I think that kiss would've come.

Just because I can... ;)   There's the hook, and you totally just put yourself on it.  Good luck, and know that we're all rooting for you!