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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2011, 09:12:34 AM »
Veryfluffy, my soon to be MIL is constantly harassing me about OUR cats. They are permitted in the kitchen when there is no food around, because the mummy cat likes to sleep on top of the boiler. They don't stay on the top where we prepare food, the preparation counters are kept scrupulously clean with antibacterial spray, and the kitchen door is shut when we're not around (kitten causes mayhem otherwise!). Likewise they are NOT permitted in the bedroom unless one of us is upstairs with them - no problems letting mummy cat lay on our bed whilst we're there (for example if I want a snooze whilst DF is working on a Saturday, the cat quite often curls up beside me on the pillow and sleeps). 

MIL constantly tells me how unhygienic that is and says they should NEVER go upstairs or in the kitchen. I'm sorry, but they are OUR cats and we do work at keeping our house tidy and clean. I would never correct her on how she decides to keep house! She hates cats and never fails to tell us that. Fine. But we happen to love our cats!!! Telling us that they are "flea ridden" and "dirty" is inaccurate and wrong (they are not dirty and they do not have fleas, as we do check them and they have regular visits to the V-E-T-S)!

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2011, 10:10:44 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2011, 01:13:05 AM »
The difficulty in that is when speaking internationally from places which have different laws.  In my country, a dog breed which is very popular in the States is legally defined as a "Dangerous Dog" and banned.  I admit I get very annoyed by people who say that anyone who thinks this breed is "dangerous" is "stupid" or "easily led".  This is my country's legal system being insulted, and myself for following the law!!!

That one would actually violate the rule governing BSL.
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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2011, 06:12:11 AM »
The difficulty in that is when speaking internationally from places which have different laws.  In my country, a dog breed which is very popular in the States is legally defined as a "Dangerous Dog" and banned.  I admit I get very annoyed by people who say that anyone who thinks this breed is "dangerous" is "stupid" or "easily led".  This is my country's legal system being insulted, and myself for following the law!!!

That one would actually violate the rule governing BSL.

BSL?  What's that?

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2011, 07:29:18 AM »
The difficulty in that is when speaking internationally from places which have different laws.  In my country, a dog breed which is very popular in the States is legally defined as a "Dangerous Dog" and banned.  I admit I get very annoyed by people who say that anyone who thinks this breed is "dangerous" is "stupid" or "easily led".  This is my country's legal system being insulted, and myself for following the law!!!

That one would actually violate the rule governing BSL.

BSL?  What's that?

BSL - Breed Specific Legislation. It seems to be a US version of our Dangerous Dogs Act over here in the UK, and bans certain breeds or types of dog based on appearance and behavioural characteristics.  It seems that there are certain groups in the US have issues with BSL, although I for one am in favour of the idea. However, in the UK it has proven quite difficult to actually police and relies solely on people informing authorities where they think a banned or potentially dangerous dog can be found.  There are certain points that people repeatedly miss when it comes to responsible ownership of a dog:

- It is NEVER OK to leave a dog alone with a child. Under any circumstances. Children, especially toddlers, can unintentionally tease a dog, pulling its tail, ears, whatever. Children should be taught from the start that animals are living creatures and pulling tails is extremely cruel and hurts the animal, a bit like someone pulling our ears. When dogs are frightened, they can turn nasty and go on the attack.  Dogs and children must be supervised by an adult at all times, as it only takes a fraction of a second for a dog to turn.

- It is NEVER OK to take a dog to a strange, loud, unfamiliar public place, particularly if alcohol is being consumed. Dogs tend not to like large crowds of people that they don't know, and it's not a great idea to combine animals and alcohol in any case. Loud bars and pubs are not the place for dogs unless they specifically welcome well-trained or well-behaved dogs (and owners). Allowing a dog to be unleashed in crowded places is a huge no.

- Dogs are not little people. They are pack animals and need to be shown who is boss.  Allow a dog to feel as though they are in control will result in a poorly trained dog liable to behave unpredictably.

- Dogs are not fashion accessories, neither are they status symbols. It should be a given, but in the UK there are issues (particularly within council housed property areas) where people purchase a specific breed or type of dog in order to intimidate other people. It's unfair on the dog and unfair on innocent passers-by when you have to walk past a growling dog, even if they are on a leash.

You would not believe how many times I have seen people violating these basic rules with dogs.  It all comes down to respect - you need to train the dog properly from the start, ensure responsible ownership by making sure the dog is on a lead when out in public and never encourage strangers to pet your dog, particularly if you know your dog is nervous around strangers (which dogs often are).  I don't own a dog, but would love to in the future, and if and when DF and I do own a dog we would be very careful as to the breed we select, buy from a reputable irresponsible parent of the human variety and train the dog well from the word go.  Dogs are a LOT of hard work, regardless of breed, and require attention, care and above all, respect!!!!

Sorry for the rant!!!!! I hope I make sense...!
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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #65 on: June 03, 2011, 10:42:13 PM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
Yes, they live there. But if the owner invites people over, the owner should control the dog and not let him or her bite, lick, or jump on people, among other things. And if the dog does those things, the owner should get the dog under control as soon as possible.

I'm not saying that animals should be kept out of sight. I would never expect that. However, if you (general) invite me over your house, I'm going to assume that you can control your animal. If not, it's best that you refrain from having people over until the animal can behave or you decide to put the animal where it won't be jumping on people.

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2011, 10:52:05 PM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
Yes, they live there. But if the owner invites people over, the owner should control the dog and not let him or her bite, lick, or jump on people, among other things. And if the dog does those things, the owner should get the dog under control as soon as possible.

I'm not saying that animals should be kept out of sight. I would never expect that. However, if you (general) invite me over your house, I'm going to assume that you can control your animal. If not, it's best that you refrain from having people over until the animal can behave or you decide to put the animal where it won't be jumping on people.

I agree with this. This is also why I never invite anyone over. Ever. I am just not willing to kick my cats off the sofa/table/etc for anyone.

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2011, 02:44:33 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
Yes, they live there. But if the owner invites people over, the owner should control the dog and not let him or her bite, lick, or jump on people, among other things. And if the dog does those things, the owner should get the dog under control as soon as possible.

I'm not saying that animals should be kept out of sight. I would never expect that. However, if you (general) invite me over your house, I'm going to assume that you can control your animal. If not, it's best that you refrain from having people over until the animal can behave or you decide to put the animal where it won't be jumping on people.

I agree with this. This is also why I never invite anyone over. Ever. I am just not willing to kick my cats off the sofa/table/etc for anyone.

I think that's totally fair.
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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #68 on: June 04, 2011, 08:06:11 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
Yes, they live there. But if the owner invites people over, the owner should control the dog and not let him or her bite, lick, or jump on people, among other things. And if the dog does those things, the owner should get the dog under control as soon as possible.

I'm not saying that animals should be kept out of sight. I would never expect that. However, if you (general) invite me over your house, I'm going to assume that you can control your animal. If not, it's best that you refrain from having people over until the animal can behave or you decide to put the animal where it won't be jumping on people.

But the issue isn't contact between pet and visiting human. It is that visitors do not get to shoo Kitty off the table, or Killer off the sofa, or complain about the animal being allowed to do X, Y or Z if it doesn't affect them personally. Obviously you shouldn't have to put up with any physical contact that you don't want.
   

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2011, 09:27:32 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
Yes, they live there. But if the owner invites people over, the owner should control the dog and not let him or her bite, lick, or jump on people, among other things. And if the dog does those things, the owner should get the dog under control as soon as possible.

I'm not saying that animals should be kept out of sight. I would never expect that. However, if you (general) invite me over your house, I'm going to assume that you can control your animal. If not, it's best that you refrain from having people over until the animal can behave or you decide to put the animal where it won't be jumping on people.

But the issue isn't contact between pet and visiting human. It is that visitors do not get to shoo Kitty off the table, or Killer off the sofa, or complain about the animal being allowed to do X, Y or Z if it doesn't affect them personally. Obviously you shouldn't have to put up with any physical contact that you don't want.

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2011, 10:24:16 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
Yes, they live there. But if the owner invites people over, the owner should control the dog and not let him or her bite, lick, or jump on people, among other things. And if the dog does those things, the owner should get the dog under control as soon as possible.

I'm not saying that animals should be kept out of sight. I would never expect that. However, if you (general) invite me over your house, I'm going to assume that you can control your animal. If not, it's best that you refrain from having people over until the animal can behave or you decide to put the animal where it won't be jumping on people.

But the issue isn't contact between pet and visiting human. It is that visitors do not get to shoo Kitty off the table, or Killer off the sofa, or complain about the animal being allowed to do X, Y or Z if it doesn't affect them personally. Obviously you shouldn't have to put up with any physical contact that you don't want.
That was my initial point, yes.

I always hated when my brother's now ex-wife would treat my old kitty like he was a huge bother whenever she came over.
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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2011, 10:54:21 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again- "They live here, and you do not. They can do in their home what they like."
Yes, they live there. But if the owner invites people over, the owner should control the dog and not let him or her bite, lick, or jump on people, among other things. And if the dog does those things, the owner should get the dog under control as soon as possible.

I'm not saying that animals should be kept out of sight. I would never expect that. However, if you (general) invite me over your house, I'm going to assume that you can control your animal. If not, it's best that you refrain from having people over until the animal can behave or you decide to put the animal where it won't be jumping on people.

But the issue isn't contact between pet and visiting human. It is that visitors do not get to shoo Kitty off the table, or Killer off the sofa, or complain about the animal being allowed to do X, Y or Z if it doesn't affect them personally. Obviously you shouldn't have to put up with any physical contact that you don't want.
That was my initial point, yes.

I always hated when my brother's now ex-wife would treat my old kitty like he was a huge bother whenever she came over.
And that was my point. "They can do anything they want" is a bit broad, and some people will take that to mean that "anything they want" means physical contact with guests.

I'd also like to say that if people are hosting a party, please make sure you have enough seats if your animal is going to take up the sofa or a seat. My aunt had a party, and her dogs took up a sofa and a love seat, leaving about 4 people to just stand with plates of food. We finally settled on the floor and on the stairwell.

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2011, 12:44:41 PM »
Puppy owners are not crazy for asking you to wash your hands before touching their dog. When they're young they haven't had their vaccinations yet, and they, like babies, are much more susceptible to getting sick. Please don't sigh and complain about how the owner is being overprotective, when they've often been told by their vets to do so.

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2011, 12:57:09 PM »
Puppy owners are not crazy for asking you to wash your hands before touching their dog. When they're young they haven't had their vaccinations yet, and they, like babies, are much more susceptible to getting sick. Please don't sigh and complain about how the owner is being overprotective, when they've often been told by their vets to do so.

A now out of business pet store had a very strict policy that you had to wash your hands and use the hand sanitizer next to the puppy pens before you could even consider touching one of the pups. I've seen a few people try to sneak in some head pats without cleaning their hands but the puppies were watched so closely that these rule breakers were always caught in the act.

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Re: Pet Etiquette
« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2011, 01:09:34 PM »
I wish some parents early on will teach their children not to run up and grab or touch a stranger's dog without asking.

I got in trouble at work (from dog owners and parents for disciplining their babies) because during our bathroom breaks they will just grab and walk away with people's dogs or pet a disability dog with the bright vest that states not to pet it. I've made a few girls sit out because if I tell them to politely ask if they can pet or hold the dog, they will get rude if the owner says "no". It's not your dog, I bet you aren't used to hearing that, but "no" means no and you can't still grab at the dog at that point or whine "whhhyyy nooott?". Some girls have been absolutely wonderful with their manners and people's pets, so I hope next year everyone will know not to do so.

The parents have a harder time understanding why I'll make them sit out, but if some random kid came up and took your litttle dog out of that bag and walked away you would be pretty miffed like all the other dog owners, and I refuse to take blame if your child continues pestering a dog when I tell them to stop and there was a possibility of them getting bitten. I would hate for that to happen, but I've taught them what I could about manners and bounderies so go home and teach them yourself what they've missed.

Most pet owners love the little girls when they ask to pet. They fawn over their politeness, "please" and "thank yous".
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