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Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« on: December 18, 2006, 04:20:18 PM »
Hello,

I have just been forwarded an invitation to my BF's office Holiday party, and the attire is "business formal"  It is a mardi-gras themed party, so the actual wording is "Dress is business formal and be sure to wear a festive mask."

When I think Busines Formal, I think business suit, pumps, and understated hair/jewelry/makeup.  Hardly appropriate for a mardi-gras themed holiday party.... (though I would probably hate to see the other end of the spectrum for this type of party!)

So, are they trying to avoid inappropriate attire with this wording? Or do I need to show up in a business suit?  What about a cocktail dress (this is what I wore last year and it was appropriate to the venue, no theme in that case though)?

Please help!
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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2006, 04:57:29 PM »
The cocktail dress sounds fine.  When I think of "business formal", I think of a suit or skirt with a blouse of a more splashy colour than usual, or a dress with more evening-ish jewelry than one would wear to work.  Then get one of those masks from the dollar store, that you see in "Marie Antoinette" :).

Honestly, who thinks of those dress-code terms, anyway?

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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 05:31:53 PM »


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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2006, 06:20:54 PM »
I'm sorry for your pain. I just went through this past Saturday and ended up dressing wrong anyway. I hope that doesn't happen to you.

I even tried channeling emily post and she doesn't have a category for what you described.

Here's her site:
http://www.emilypost.com/etiquette/special/attire.htm

Maybe it can help, I don't know. I'd probably wear a suit - that's my best guess as to "business formal". Good luck!
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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2006, 06:22:14 PM »
I don't have any advice, but I commiserate. For my husband's office party this year (in January, 200 miles away in North Dakota! -- sorry, I keep being amazed by this), the stated dress code was "festive".

Festive?

My husband, and many other people, asked what was covered by "festive". The answer was "you'll turn heads if you show up in a tux or evening gown!"  When pressed by the many, many engineers who would wear Garanimals if they were sold in adult sizes, the organizer said that business casual was fine.

I'm unhappy enough with the fact that, if we want him to look like an up-and-coming employee, we have to give up a weekend to go to Fargo (nothing against Fargo, just not my idea of a fun place to visit in January). Not only is half of this "party" employee-only meetings, where spouses get to cool their heels in their rooms (or heat them in a hot-tub -- I'm hoping for a hot-tub). But, they actually thought we were going to rent a tux and buy an evening gown for this, a jumped up employee meeting with a few cocktails? (I know some people love any opportunity to wear their fancier clothing, but I'm not one of them.)

I was originally going to wear a shimmery red silk shirt with black pants (I don't fit into any of my black skirts, and just cannot bring myself to buy one in my current size), but now I'm leaning towards wearing my Christmas sweatshirt. That seems fairly festive. Bah.

Edited, because another thread gives Emily Post's definition of "festive":

Holiday Festive (Men) Attire Seasonal sport coat or blazer in color of choice and slacks
open-collar shirt or shirt and "festive" or holiday-themed tie
 
(Women) Short cocktail dress or long dressy skirt and top or dressy pants outfit

That doesn't seem to match up to me -- the men seem way more casual than the women. A "dressy pants outfit" doesn't seem the equivalent of blazer+slacks+open-collar shirt. In any case, I'm going to go for "warm".
« Last Edit: December 18, 2006, 07:16:31 PM by KathyeC »

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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2006, 07:33:30 PM »
*fanning zip, wafting the smelling salts* You simply must post about this party, you know there will be those who do wrong with the Mardi Gras theme. I think a nice suit with a bright shell, or a cocktail dress will look great. Get a feathery sequined mask in a coordinating color and les' bon ton roulez!
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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2006, 07:45:12 PM »
Hi KathyeC

I'm from the Fargo area - your red shimmery top and black pants would be perfect for the definition of business festive for a Christmas office party in this region.

As far as nothing else to do - besides the hottub  ;D (I don't think there is a hotel in the region that doesn't have at least one), we have a pretty decent shopping mall, as well as some great downtown shops if you are staying in that area. Here is a link to a calendar of local events that might have something else too 

http://www.in-forum.com/calendar

BTW - we don't even have any snow yet  ;D  - yesterday I ran out to my car to get something and went out with bare feet!

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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2006, 08:14:19 PM »
Hello,

I have just been forwarded an invitation to my BF's office Holiday party, and the attire is "business formal"  It is a mardi-gras themed party, so the actual wording is "Dress is business formal and be sure to wear a festive mask."

When I think Busines Formal, I think business suit, pumps, and understated hair/jewelry/makeup.  Hardly appropriate for a mardi-gras themed holiday party....

I completely agree; this sounds either very poorly thought-out or as though someone has no clue what "business formal" actually means.  In my world it means your best business attire, with somewhat flashier jewelry for evening functions.  This is New York, so think Black.

You must update us on this.  I sense a train wreck in the making.

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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2006, 08:27:56 PM »
In my experience, many men would prefer to dress in polo shirts and chinos - or other comfortable clothes (I love the Garanimals comment).  One of the things that I remember about the military is that it specified EXACTLY what was supposed to be worn to any given event and DeHubby HAD to wear his mess dress (tux equivalent) if that was the "uniform of the day".  ;)

Many women (but not all) prefer to feel that they are dressed correctly for an event.  Having a level of formality spelled out to be comparable with the "uniform of the day" meant that I never had to worry about being SERIOUSLY underdressed or overdressed.  Although when I was active duty myself, I just wore MY "uniform of the day".  DeHubby and I always "coordinated" that way!   ;D

Using an essentially meaningless term, such as "festive" makes understanding what kind of clothes would be appropriate even harder to sort out for most of us.

I have worked in "business casual" office that had occasional people show up in outfits *I* personally found deplorable - turquoise leather pants that were tighter on the wearer than they had been on whatever animal the leather had come from comes to mind.  As did several outfits that required slits to allow the wearer to walk "normally" instead of gliding like Morticia Addams..........slits that went further up than coworkers NEEDED to be seeing, in my not-prudish-opinion. 

When a VERY important person came for a major event (opening of a new building) - we were told to wear "business traditional" clothing for the two days that *Big Name* would be around.

It was mid-December.  I saw velvet skirts and jackets with satin blouses, satin skirts with lace blouses, metallic knits and lace tops everywhere...........looking back, I might have called them "business festive" if I had been asked to characterize them.  I wore a plaid cardigan styled sweater styled very similar to a Chanel jacket over trousers with rubber soled loafers that matched the pants and a knit shell with tone-on-tone embroidery that picked up the accent stripe from the plaid.  My outfit had no lace, velvet, satin, bows, sash, metallic accents, pearls, little bells, sequins, beads, or other "accents" - which probably 60% of the other women were wearing............the entry level personnel had a looser grip on the meaning of "business casual/business traditional" than those who had been working at the company for fifteen years or were working at a managerial level or as supervisors.............

I suppose part of the problem *might* have been that the younger people working at the entry level just did not have either the knowledge of what kind of separates made for a more versatile wardrobe or had not been working long enough to accumulate a wardrobe with a wider range of options........



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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2006, 10:05:27 PM »
Thanks for the smelling salts!!

Really, what are these people thinking?  Masks?  Mardi Gras?  Business formal?  That's like saying you should wear red green or slacks skirt.  It's one or the other, people.  There is no such thing as "business formal."  Nobody transacts (serious ) business in a red sequined halter gown.   They might just as well say "Come looking utterly ridiculous." 

I'm a little creeped out by the idea of a bird-of-paradise mask for an office party, but I suppose you could wear whatever you'd wear to Mardi Gras? 

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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2006, 07:50:11 AM »
Thanks all!

The party is not until late January, but I will definitely post about it!  I went to this company's office party last year, and, unfortunately for us, no major faux-pas (that I saw, at least) - but last year's was NOT mardi-gras themed!  Thanks for the advice, and if anyone else reads this topic and has some experience/input, please continue to post!
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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2006, 08:43:40 AM »
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I have worked in "business casual" office that had occasional people show up in outfits *I* personally found deplorable - turquoise leather pants that were tighter on the wearer than they had been on whatever animal the leather had come from comes to mind.  As did several outfits that required slits to allow the wearer to walk "normally" instead of gliding like Morticia Addams..........slits that went further up than coworkers NEEDED to be seeing, in my not-prudish-opinion.  

When a VERY important person came for a major event (opening of a new building) - we were told to wear "business traditional" clothing for the two days that *Big Name* would be around.

It was mid-December.  I saw velvet skirts and jackets with satin blouses, satin skirts with lace blouses, metallic knits and lace tops everywhere...........looking back, I might have called them "business festive" if I had been asked to characterize them.  I wore a plaid cardigan styled sweater styled very similar to a Chanel jacket over trousers with rubber soled loafers that matched the pants and a knit shell with tone-on-tone embroidery that picked up the accent stripe from the plaid.  My outfit had no lace, velvet, satin, bows, sash, metallic accents, pearls, little bells, sequins, beads, or other "accents" - which probably 60% of the other women were wearing............the entry level personnel had a looser grip on the meaning of "business casual/business traditional" than those who had been working at the company for fifteen years or were working at a managerial level or as supervisors.............

I suppose part of the problem *might* have been that the younger people working at the entry level just did not have either the knowledge of what kind of separates made for a more versatile wardrobe or had not been working long enough to accumulate a wardrobe with a wider range of options........

I think event organizers and HR departments think (or more likely hope and pray) that including the word "business" in a dress code will encourage people to use good sense and good taste in choosing their attire.

Note to event organizers and HR departments: It's not working.

I saw a school website that actually resorted to pictures to clarify their dress code. Each item (Khaki pants, shoes, button down shirt, etc.) had two popup links next to it: Appropriate and Inappropriate. I think this is an excellent idea. Some people were simply never taught how to dress.
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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2006, 08:55:46 AM »
From all the opinions posted here, it is sounding more and more like they put the word "business" in there as an adjective, rather than the noun.  As in, I should wear something formal, that would be considered appropriate for business events (ie no low-cut front/backs, slits, sheer clothing, etc).  It makes sense that they would say this, since the theme is a wild one this year...
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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2006, 09:00:58 AM »
I agree with the pp, I would interpret "business formal" as a conservative evening/cocktail dress.  Something with sleeves, no plunging necklines etc.  No sequined, silver hotpants with matching halter (don't laugh - this is what one of my husband's staff wore to their party).

If they specified festive, I'd wear something red with a splash of green or gold (perhaps a belt or a scarf).

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Re: Office Holiday Party Etiquette
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2006, 09:32:03 AM »
Then why not just say: "Conservative evening cocktail attire with bird-of-paradise masks."  ???

It's just too confusing to throw a conservative Mardi Gras with a business formal dress code with masks -- the organizers probably shouldn't have any expectations about people's attire.