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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17730 on: September 19, 2013, 09:32:13 PM »
Oluwatomiwa & Oluwatomisin.

I find this incredibly offensive. Just because you aren't able to pronounce these names doesn't qualify them as jibberish.


Correct; they are Yoruban names. So unless you consider the Yoruba language to be gibberish......

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17731 on: September 19, 2013, 09:52:33 PM »
I knew a young woman named Adeola--I believe she (and the name) were Yoruban. I think it's lovely, and actually not hard to pronounce: addie-OH-luh. Interestingly, it seems to be a unisex name, as sometimes it's found on men as well. In some cultures it seems like a large number of the names can be used by either gender--Korean comes to mind, according to my Korean co-worker (though English baby name books insist upon sorting them into boy and girl sections).
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17732 on: September 19, 2013, 10:05:22 PM »
It's a shame that people can be so small-minded as to not even respect someone enough to attempt their name. I agree as well that the focus on ethnic names as being "funny" or "weird" is deeply uncomfortable.

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« Reply #17733 on: September 19, 2013, 10:14:34 PM »
A business I formerly worked for did an lot of dealing with a business in China.  Most of the  Chinese who had direct contact with our company used English names.  In fact, one of the contacts asked our president to choose a name for her.   He had his secretary going over dozens of names before they finally settled on one they thought was appropriate for her (they called her Crystal).
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17734 on: September 19, 2013, 10:33:52 PM »
 *inviteseller, I can see that you are frustrated by what is happening in your area but I fail to see what any of it has to do with the names themselves. I would assume that the problems would remain even if they came from a culture where everyone was called Frank. I can be wrong but I had assumed that the purpose of this thread was to be funny and lighthearted with stories of bizarre names (I just encountered a name that means "little orgasm" and there were no language or cultural differences), though there's also some mocking of stupid or silly naming practices (like getting name "meanings" from untrustwotrhy baby name books) which can probably sometimes get too meanspirited.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17735 on: September 19, 2013, 11:22:50 PM »
No one is expected to recognize names from different cultures immediately, specially in a thread that is filled with made up names. As far as I can remember (I have followed this thread from the beginning), no one has knowingly ridiculed a name because it is from a different culture, just from not knowing. If someone lists a name that you know is from a different culture, just enlighten us. I have done so several times in thread with names from Portuguese and many other posters have done the same with names from various cultures. I have not seen anyone either complain or continue after the explanation.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17736 on: September 19, 2013, 11:38:49 PM »
*inviteseller, your statements concerning immigration, learning the language, etc is not only irrelevant to the thread but also racist and offensive. It is also a hot political issue so my advice to everyone is to move on.
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17737 on: September 20, 2013, 12:11:45 AM »
From the 1906 book of baby names again, this time focusing on gender:

Florence, Marion, Shirley, and Vivian showed up on the lists for both boys and girls. In fact Marion was the name given to my great-aunt who was born around this time. I wonder if it was thought of as a "unisex" name at the time? Her older sister had the traditionally-feminine name of Katherine, but her younger sister was named Frances, so maybe her parents moved towards names of somewhat ambiguous gender on purpose? The brothers had traditionally-masculine names like Joseph and William.

Anyway, Evelyn and Frances were listed in the girls' section, and not in the boys' (even Francis). The girls' side also had the nickname Frankie; Merle, which I always associate with male singer Merle Haggard; and... Flavil. Like the mouse in An American Tale, right? Who was male. Possibly they spelled it Flavel. But there was no similar name on the boys' side of this book.

It was hard picking out names from the boys' list, because so many boys' names have been used for girls. Like the book had Emery for boys. Could you use it for a girl today? Sure, I think it would be cute, and I'm sure people have done it. But it's not like I saw it and thought, "Emery? Isn't that a girl's name?"

The boys' side had Carroll, Clare, Dana, Leslie, Lindsay, Sidney, and Tracy; none of these, even with a different spelling, were listed on the girls' side. The girls had Caroline and even just Caro, but no Carol; and also Clarice, Clara, Clarissa, and Claribel, but no Claire.
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17738 on: September 20, 2013, 04:58:13 AM »
Maury Povich's father was named Shirley, and he (Shirley) was on "I've Got a Secret" because he had been listed in the book "Who's Who of Famous Women."

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« Reply #17739 on: September 20, 2013, 08:55:07 AM »
John Wayne was born Marion and there's Joyce Kilmer who wrote 'Trees'. 

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« Reply #17740 on: September 20, 2013, 11:22:01 AM »
And then there's the actor Leslie Howard, who played Ashley Wilkes. :P
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17741 on: September 20, 2013, 01:19:58 PM »
Carroll O'Connor (Archie Bunker)
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« Reply #17742 on: September 20, 2013, 01:34:00 PM »
John Wayne was born Marion and there's Joyce Kilmer who wrote 'Trees'.

So was my paternal grandfather.  So, I had to get used to women named Marion because I thought it was a man's name.

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« Reply #17743 on: September 20, 2013, 01:35:15 PM »
From the 1906 book of baby names again, this time focusing on gender:

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Anyway, Evelyn and Frances were listed in the girls' section, and not in the boys' (even Francis). The girls' side also had the nickname Frankie; Merle, which I always associate with male singer Merle Haggard; and... Flavil. Like the mouse in An American Tale, right? Who was male. Possibly they spelled it Flavel. But there was no similar name on the boys' side of this book.
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According to imdb.com, the mouse in An American Tail is Fievel. I think it's a Yiddish name.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17744 on: September 20, 2013, 01:43:34 PM »
From the 1906 book of baby names again, this time focusing on gender:

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Anyway, Evelyn and Frances were listed in the girls' section, and not in the boys' (even Francis). The girls' side also had the nickname Frankie; Merle, which I always associate with male singer Merle Haggard; and... Flavil. Like the mouse in An American Tale, right? Who was male. Possibly they spelled it Flavel. But there was no similar name on the boys' side of this book.
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According to imdb.com, the mouse in An American Tail is Fievel. I think it's a Yiddish name.
I was just getting ready to dig out my DVD and research this. You...er...saved me from rewatching a cartoon this evening.  :D