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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17775 on: September 26, 2013, 07:08:21 AM »
I know at least three guys--not terribly old nor young--with the name Stacey (or Stacy). I had always thought that a girls' name but apparently not!

Stacey Keach is a male actor with a good reputation.  He was a fixture on 'Cheers'.

I don't remember him on Cheers.  I do remember him from the title role in Mike Hammer, though.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17776 on: September 26, 2013, 07:27:24 AM »
I know at least three guys--not terribly old nor young--with the name Stacey (or Stacy). I had always thought that a girls' name but apparently not!

Stacey Keach is a male actor with a good reputation.  He was a fixture on 'Cheers'.

I don't remember him on Cheers.  I do remember him from the title role in Mike Hammer, though.
I remember his as the evil father in Titus.
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17777 on: September 26, 2013, 07:47:09 AM »

I remember his as the evil father in Titus.

His father-Stacy Keach, Sr.- was an actor as well.

Really both are Walters; Stacy is their middle name.

The generally reliable behindthename.com says the masculine Stacy come from -as was my guess - Eustace.

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« Reply #17778 on: September 26, 2013, 07:54:14 AM »
Sidney is still very much a male name in the UK. Whilst there might be one or two female Sidneys, it is overwhelmingly seen as an older mans name. Ashley is still a boys name here too. There are more female Ashleys than Sidneys but it is still seen as a perfectly acceptable boys name. I know several male Ashleys but no female ones.

You beat me to it! If I saw 'Sidney' I would assume the owner was male
The only time I;ve ever come across it as a female name it's been spelled Sydney.

Ashley could be either, but often spelled Ashleigh when it is a girl, Ashley for a boy.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17779 on: September 26, 2013, 08:37:48 AM »
Funnily enough, Sara and Sarah have completely different pronunciation in the UK, so I've never thought of that as a confusing one. Sara is pronouced like Zara, but with an S.

This is 99.9% true, with the exception of yours truly, because I am just that special. :P

Blame the parents: I never asked for this. Mum wanted 'Sarah'. Dad, for some bizarre reason, disliked the 'H' and wanted 'Sara'. Their brilliant compromise was a name 'spelt-Sara-but-pronounced-Sarah' (because that wouldn't result in their daughter spending a lifetime correcting people on spelling and pronunciation at all...). ::)

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« Reply #17780 on: September 26, 2013, 12:21:49 PM »
Doing family history research, I find that people in the past were often rather casual about spelling names anyway. So many times I've seen "Francis" on census records as a daughter's name, when I would have called that the male spelling, with Frances being the female. Of course that's pretty nitpicky, as I've never heard there's even a pronunciation difference.

And if anyone had an unusual name for the time, it got repeatedly mangled on official documents. I have a distant relative whose "real" name I don't even know--I think it's Candace. That doesn't seem too weird to me, even if she was born in the early 1800s--I think it's from the Bible, some kind of geographic name. On one record she was Candace, but I've also found her as Canditia, Candida, Canada, Candaca, and lots of "Can-" scribble scribble like the reporter just gave up. It's actually a good marker to make sure I've gotten the right person!

Anyone who tried to be Taelyr would probably be looked at like they were a loon. Even legit surnames that no one really "chose" got mangled sometimes--Smith/Smithe/Smyth/Smythe could all be the same person. Though, I had a great aunt named Emilie, and I've heard that she came down like a ton of bricks on people who misspelled her name as Emily, thus once she's an adult it's always -ie in the records...
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17781 on: September 26, 2013, 03:17:12 PM »
Doing family history research, I find that people in the past were often rather casual about spelling names anyway. So many times I've seen "Francis" on census records as a daughter's name, when I would have called that the male spelling, with Frances being the female. Of course that's pretty nitpicky, as I've never heard there's even a pronunciation difference.
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17782 on: September 26, 2013, 03:24:24 PM »
Today, I met a little girl called "Sonny". Not "Sunny", which would be perhaps more acceptable. "Sonny". It's not a foreign name that sounds wrong in English. No, the parents named her after a friend of theirs who, I'm guessing, was not of the same gender as their daughter. ::)

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17783 on: September 26, 2013, 04:30:07 PM »
Some weirdish ones that are examples of perfectly normal spelled names that the parents decided to pronounce different.

Cheryl pronounced Chair-ul, with the ch like in chair, change, chance

Deborah pronounced Dee-Bore-ah

Each of these ladies are at least 40-50 years old.

This is a little old but I wanted to say that to my knowledge, "Deborah" was originally pronounced "Dee-Bore-ah".  That is the biblical pronunciation of that name.  So I'm not surprised that a woman in her 40s/50s pronounces it that way.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17784 on: September 26, 2013, 04:45:14 PM »
...   This is a little old but I wanted to say that to my knowledge, "Deborah" was originally pronounced "Dee-Bore-ah".  That is the biblical pronunciation of that name.  So I'm not surprised that a woman in her 40s/50s pronounces it that way.

I'm in my seventies and have never heard the name pronounced Dee-Bore'-ah. 

But my MIL used to talk about a friend of hers named Puh mell'ah.  Then one day I saw the name in a signature on a card Puhmellah had sent to my MIL. 

Yep.  Pamela.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17785 on: September 26, 2013, 06:46:16 PM »
Doing family history research, I find that people in the past were often rather casual about spelling names anyway. So many times I've seen "Francis" on census records as a daughter's name, when I would have called that the male spelling, with Frances being the female. Of course that's pretty nitpicky, as I've never heard there's even a pronunciation difference.
I've always heard it the other way around - Frances is male, Francis is female. It's all moot these days anyways.

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17786 on: September 26, 2013, 08:16:25 PM »
Doing family history research, I find that people in the past were often rather casual about spelling names anyway. So many times I've seen "Francis" on census records as a daughter's name, when I would have called that the male spelling, with Frances being the female. Of course that's pretty nitpicky, as I've never heard there's even a pronunciation difference.
I've always heard it the other way around - Frances is male, Francis is female. It's all moot these days anyways.


I've always heard it Lynn2000's way. As in St. Francis, Pope Francis (both male) and Lady Diana Frances Spencer and my best friend's mom, Frances, both female.  ;D

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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17787 on: September 26, 2013, 10:32:02 PM »
Doing family history research, I find that people in the past were often rather casual about spelling names anyway. So many times I've seen "Francis" on census records as a daughter's name, when I would have called that the male spelling, with Frances being the female. Of course that's pretty nitpicky, as I've never heard there's even a pronunciation difference.
I've always heard it the other way around - Frances is male, Francis is female. It's all moot these days anyways.

My mother was Frances, and called Fran or Franny.  Fran Tarkenton kind of boggled my mind (that's a GIRL'S name to my younger brain).
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17788 on: September 26, 2013, 10:34:41 PM »

I remember his as the evil father in Titus.

His father-Stacy Keach, Sr.- was an actor as well.

Really both are Walters; Stacy is their middle name.

The generally reliable behindthename.com says the masculine Stacy come from -as was my guess - Eustace.

In Lenora Mattingly Weber's Katie Rose/Stacy Belford series, the girls had an Aunt Eustace, and Stacy was her namesake.  In one of the later books, Stacy explained that it should have been Eustacia, but they followed the English custom of giving girls opposite sex names (like boys named Vivian and girls named, well, Eustace).
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17789 on: September 27, 2013, 09:40:46 AM »
...   This is a little old but I wanted to say that to my knowledge, "Deborah" was originally pronounced "Dee-Bore-ah".  That is the biblical pronunciation of that name.  So I'm not surprised that a woman in her 40s/50s pronounces it that way.

I'm in my seventies and have never heard the name pronounced Dee-Bore'-ah. 

But my MIL used to talk about a friend of hers named Puh mell'ah.  Then one day I saw the name in a signature on a card Puhmellah had sent to my MIL. 

Yep.  Pamela.

Maybe it is regional?  My grandmother used to pronounce Deborah that way, although she was told by my cousin's parents they weren't pronouncing it like that.  (But once Grandma found out my cousin didn't like "Dee-Bore-Ah" she made a point of saying it every so often - Grandma was fun like that, she didn't care for girls.)