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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17820 on: October 11, 2013, 10:52:45 AM »
My ancestors, generations ago, had a very limited sense of naming. ::) One branch got obsessed with the name Henry. So there would be THREE brothers all with the first name Henry, who all lived to adulthood. Henry William Smith, Henry James Smith, Henry Thaddeus Smith. It seems like they often went by their middle names, but as they got older and spread out, sometimes they would fill out official forms as just "Henry Smith" and then you're left wondering, which one?? And then of course, each Henry would name two or three of his own sons Henry as well. ::) I just don't get it.
It was common, in some places and times, to name your child for its godparent.  So if you had a rich Uncle Henry, you would ask him to be the godparent for your children.   Godparents were expected to make substantial gifts to their godchildren, both while they were alive and as a mention in their Wills. Especially if Uncle Henry didn't have offspring of his own.  ;)  So maybe Uncle Henry would adopt YOUR Henry (or one of your Henrys) as his heir.   

And "Henry" written out several times in this missive begins to take on a strange weirdness of its own...

Hey, with that kind of motivation, I might name several of my kids Henry, too! ;) In my particular case my family were all poor farmers, however, so if there was some kind of benevolent godparent involved in the decision, it was much more of an emotional/spiritual tie than a financial one.

Yes, but you have at least eight of them, so one of them could be Henry the Eighth?  ;)

LOL! Wasn't it George Foreman who named all his sons George, and called them by number? Or is that just a myth?
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17821 on: October 11, 2013, 11:45:31 AM »
Here's something a friend of mine is doing. She's Amy Adams, and she's married to Bob Barker. When she got married, she chose to keep her original name. Okay. So they have their first child, and his name is Carl Barker (dad's surname). Now they're having their second and final child, and they plan to name him David Adams (mom's surname). Actually they don't know if #2 is a boy or girl, but regardless, its surname will be Adams (mom's). So in the household will be an adult and child named Adams, and an adult and child named Barker. What do you guys think of this plan?

That sounds more confusing than anything else. Like a previous poster said, you're left wondering if they're full sibling and stuff like that.
Hyphenating is not always the best solution down the road ( If Mary Smith-Johnson and Joey Barker-Turner have a kid, is it Ethan Smith-Johnson-Baker-Turner?) but with two 'shorts' name it does seems better. Then the kid/adult will decide by what to go when he'll have to.

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« Reply #17822 on: October 11, 2013, 03:26:58 PM »
Here's something a friend of mine is doing. She's Amy Adams, and she's married to Bob Barker. When she got married, she chose to keep her original name. Okay. So they have their first child, and his name is Carl Barker (dad's surname). Now they're having their second and final child, and they plan to name him David Adams (mom's surname). Actually they don't know if #2 is a boy or girl, but regardless, its surname will be Adams (mom's). So in the household will be an adult and child named Adams, and an adult and child named Barker. What do you guys think of this plan?

That sounds more confusing than anything else. Like a previous poster said, you're left wondering if they're full sibling and stuff like that.
Hyphenating is not always the best solution down the road ( If Mary Smith-Johnson and Joey Barker-Turner have a kid, is it Ethan Smith-Johnson-Baker-Turner?) but with two 'shorts' name it does seems better. Then the kid/adult will decide by what to go when he'll have to.

I kind of feel the same way. Certainly these days there are many families where everyone in the household doesn't have the same last name, and in most cases it's not anyone else's business exactly how they're related (married/not, step/half sibling, etc.). So there's that. But, it seems disharmonious to me, to deliberately give your children different last names, even though they have the same parents with the same marital status.

I feel like an adult should be able to handle having a different last name from the rest of the household, but it might be strange, confusing, and perhaps worrying for a child. Although, I do think a lot of feelings like that have much to do with parental attitudes growing up, and aren't solely influenced by the names given.

On this subject, but historical, something that was terribly confusing for me in my family history work: Elizabeth Aston marries Robert Brown, becomes Elizabeth Brown per usual at the time. They have some kids, surname Brown. Robert dies (in the Civil War, actually). Elizabeth takes up with another fellow, Joseph Calder, and lives with him and has some kids, but they aren't married. (Must have been quite a scandal at the time!) The surnames of these kids? Brown. Her previous (dead) husband's name. Wha...?

I suppose the idea was, Mrs. Brown had a baby, it must be Baby Brown, even if Mr. Brown has been dead for years. She's no longer Miss Aston but definitely not Mrs. Calder, so Brown is the only other option. Later, Joseph Calder and Elizabeth DID get married, and kids born after that were automatically Calder. And later in life, all their bio-kids tended to migrate towards the surname Calder, even if it was Brown on the first few censuses. Spelling and naming were rather more fluid back then, I think.  :P
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17823 on: October 11, 2013, 03:34:39 PM »
My ancestors, generations ago, had a very limited sense of naming. ::) One branch got obsessed with the name Henry. So there would be THREE brothers all with the first name Henry, who all lived to adulthood. Henry William Smith, Henry James Smith, Henry Thaddeus Smith. It seems like they often went by their middle names, but as they got older and spread out, sometimes they would fill out official forms as just "Henry Smith" and then you're left wondering, which one?? And then of course, each Henry would name two or three of his own sons Henry as well. ::) I just don't get it.
It was common, in some places and times, to name your child for its godparent.  So if you had a rich Uncle Henry, you would ask him to be the godparent for your children.   Godparents were expected to make substantial gifts to their godchildren, both while they were alive and as a mention in their Wills. Especially if Uncle Henry didn't have offspring of his own.  ;)  So maybe Uncle Henry would adopt YOUR Henry (or one of your Henrys) as his heir.   

And "Henry" written out several times in this missive begins to take on a strange weirdness of its own...

Hey, with that kind of motivation, I might name several of my kids Henry, too! ;) In my particular case my family were all poor farmers, however, so if there was some kind of benevolent godparent involved in the decision, it was much more of an emotional/spiritual tie than a financial one.

Yes, but you have at least eight of them, so one of them could be Henry the Eighth?  ;)

LOL! Wasn't it George Foreman who named all his sons George, and called them by number? Or is that just a myth?

He has twelve kids and all five sons are named George, plus one daughter named Georgetta. It sounds like they use nicknames for the sons, though.
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17824 on: October 11, 2013, 11:27:46 PM »
I found a fun historical one, a Civil War veteran, Napoleon Bonaparte Lastname. 

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« Reply #17825 on: October 11, 2013, 11:32:36 PM »
I found a fun historical one, a Civil War veteran, Napoleon Bonaparte Lastname.

That's awesome! I've found a lot of George Washington Lastnames--apparently that was extremely common around that time. George Washington Smith, George Washington Miller, George Washington Brown... Actually kind of a pain in combination with a common last name, because you get so many of them. There was also a Francis Marion Smith, after another Revolutionary War hero. And I remember a Grover Cleveland Smith. Name your kid after your heroes, I guess...
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17826 on: October 12, 2013, 10:18:58 PM »
I found a fun historical one, a Civil War veteran, Napoleon Bonaparte Lastname.

That's awesome! I've found a lot of George Washington Lastnames--apparently that was extremely common around that time. George Washington Smith, George Washington Miller, George Washington Brown... Actually kind of a pain in combination with a common last name, because you get so many of them. There was also a Francis Marion Smith, after another Revolutionary War hero. And I remember a Grover Cleveland Smith. Name your kid after your heroes, I guess...

Snerk. I have found this same thing among my ancestors. I had one couple that went heavy with the theme.

Their five sons were George Washington LastName, Benjamin Franklin LastName, Thomas Jefferson LastName, James Monroe LastName, and Andrew Jackson LastName. They had a daughter named Martha, but I never found her middle name, though it was likely Washington, Dandridge, or Custis. (The children were born in the 1880s and 1890s).

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« Reply #17827 on: October 13, 2013, 07:50:21 AM »
What do you guys think of this - having your second child's first name the same as your first child's middle name?

Bit like George III and Queen Charlotte. They had Frederick Augustus, Augustus Frederick, Ernest Augustus, Edward Augustus among the boys, and  Augusta Sophia, Charlotte Augusta Matilda, and Sophia Matilda among the girls, and a son called Adolphus Frederick. O.K, so they had 15 children, and they might have been running out of names by baby no.15, but they must really have liked the name Augustus.

Their eldest son George IV had a daughter Charlotte Augusta.
His brother William IV had a son Augustus, and a daughter Augusta by his mistress Mrs Jordan

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« Reply #17828 on: October 13, 2013, 12:17:49 PM »
My daughter's middle name is Jean (pronounced like Gene or Jeanne) and, I will admit, we played with the idea of naming our son Jean-Luc (pronounced soft-J John, and Luke). We're such nerds, yes. But did not do that.

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« Reply #17829 on: October 13, 2013, 09:30:17 PM »
What do you guys think of this - having your second child's first name the same as your first child's middle name?

my his third son shares his second name with my second son's first name. 

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« Reply #17830 on: October 13, 2013, 10:20:50 PM »
Re using the word August in each name.  Might well have some thing to do with August meaning noble, stately or exalted.  Good name for a potential monarch. 

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« Reply #17831 on: October 14, 2013, 12:39:47 PM »
Friends or our's have 2 girls.  Grace Marie and then 8 years later they had Madeline Grace.  Turns out both of my friends' mothers names are Grace and they didn't want one girl to be named after the grandmothers and not the other.
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« Reply #17832 on: October 14, 2013, 01:33:59 PM »
Friends or our's have 2 girls.  Grace Marie and then 8 years later they had Madeline Grace.  Turns out both of my friends' mothers names are Grace and they didn't want one girl to be named after the grandmothers and not the other.

That's great! "You're named after Grandma Grace Smith, but you're named after Grandma Grace Miller! No, really, it's totally different. Don't get them mixed up." That is reasoning I can understand and it makes me smile a little bit.

Wasn't there a US president whose middle name was just S, the letter, because both grandfathers' names started with S and the parents didn't want to favor one over the other?

I like family names, personally. At least, saying something is "a family name" seems like pretty good reasoning to me, unless the name is truly horrible (still subjective, I guess). I heard of a couple recently who had a baby girl and her name was a mash-up of the mom's parents' names--it came out to be a fairly normal if new-sounding name, like Brylee (Bryan and Lee, maybe). And then mom's sister's name was the baby's middle name. So this child's name honors three of her maternal relatives. I just kept thinking, what are they going to do for the next child? Are they going to be able to get all of that in for the dad's side? That's the sort of thing that makes me wonder a bit, when one child has a really significant name with much thought and family connection, and the next child's name is more like, "Eh, sounded good with the first kid."  :-\
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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17833 on: October 14, 2013, 07:33:52 PM »
Friends or our's have 2 girls.  Grace Marie and then 8 years later they had Madeline Grace.  Turns out both of my friends' mothers names are Grace and they didn't want one girl to be named after the grandmothers and not the other.

That's great! "You're named after Grandma Grace Smith, but you're named after Grandma Grace Miller! No, really, it's totally different. Don't get them mixed up." That is reasoning I can understand and it makes me smile a little bit.

Wasn't there a US president whose middle name was just S, the letter, because both grandfathers' names started with S and the parents didn't want to favor one over the other?


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Re: Baby Names - You're kidding Right???
« Reply #17834 on: October 15, 2013, 05:56:52 PM »
I just met a newborn baby named Jakely, pronounced as two syllables: Jake + lee.

Not a nickname, the legal name. baby name searchs don't bring it up at all for me as a name from another country. It also doesn't appear to have any connection to the parent's names.

a very cute baby girl, by the way.
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