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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2009, 12:46:28 PM »
I'm going against the majority here and say I think that there's nothing wrong with posting a "political" comment to a friend. My sister was posting on FB about whether or not she should get some Ugg boots and I commented to say I didn't think she should because they're not very ethical and if she knew how they were made she wouldn't want some. My sister was pleased that I'd warned her and decided not to get the boots.

If the subject's something you really care about, I don't see anything wrong with sharing it with other people.

There are plenty of convincing arguments against milk consumption by humans too. Thought perhaps describing milk as mucus is not the way to win hearts and minds!

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2009, 12:49:56 PM »
I'm going against the majority here and say I think that there's nothing wrong with posting a "political" comment to a friend. My sister was posting on FB about whether or not she should get some Ugg boots and I commented to say I didn't think she should because they're not very ethical and if she knew how they were made she wouldn't want some. My sister was pleased that I'd warned her and decided not to get the boots.

If the subject's something you really care about, I don't see anything wrong with sharing it with other people.

There are plenty of convincing arguments against milk consumption by humans too. Thought perhaps describing milk as mucus is not the way to win hearts and minds!

I guess it depends somewhat to me if it is a message or a post.  I would be OK with you sending a message to your sister.  Posting so it is basically a meesage to everyone is a bit different. 

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2009, 12:52:59 PM »
I'm going against the majority here and say I think that there's nothing wrong with posting a "political" comment to a friend. My sister was posting on FB about whether or not she should get some Ugg boots and I commented to say I didn't think she should because they're not very ethical and if she knew how they were made she wouldn't want some. My sister was pleased that I'd warned her and decided not to get the boots.

If the subject's something you really care about, I don't see anything wrong with sharing it with other people.

There are plenty of convincing arguments against milk consumption by humans too. Thought perhaps describing milk as mucus is not the way to win hearts and minds!

I guess it depends somewhat to me if it is a message or a post.  I would be OK with you sending a message to your sister.  Posting so it is basically a meesage to everyone is a bit different. 

I agree.  In a PM, things like this can be discussed.  Even on someone's wall, if you know them personally and know how they will react to your comments.  But I haven't met this person in real life yet so the "first impression" I have of her is basically her rant.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2009, 01:03:59 PM »
I think it is rude, at least in this case. With someone you are close to, presenting information in a nonjudgmental informative way can be acceptable as long as you drop the issue after. Anything that could be interpreted as "If you don't agree with ___, then you are wrong" should be avoided.

In this case, the OP posted that her kids drink a ton of milk and someone responded that drinking milk is disgusting and wrong. That seems to be a pretty direct attack on her parenting skills as far as I can see.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2009, 01:05:35 PM »
I'm going against the majority here and say I think that there's nothing wrong with posting a "political" comment to a friend. My sister was posting on FB about whether or not she should get some Ugg boots and I commented to say I didn't think she should because they're not very ethical and if she knew how they were made she wouldn't want some. My sister was pleased that I'd warned her and decided not to get the boots.

If the subject's something you really care about, I don't see anything wrong with sharing it with other people.

There are plenty of convincing arguments against milk consumption by humans too. Thought perhaps describing milk as mucus is not the way to win hearts and minds!

I disagree.  Your sister was basically asking for advice.

Telling someone "Don't do what you are doing.  It's wrong." is always intrusive.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2009, 01:11:33 PM »
I'm going against the majority here and say I think that there's nothing wrong with posting a "political" comment to a friend. My sister was posting on FB about whether or not she should get some Ugg boots and I commented to say I didn't think she should because they're not very ethical and if she knew how they were made she wouldn't want some. My sister was pleased that I'd warned her and decided not to get the boots.

If the subject's something you really care about, I don't see anything wrong with sharing it with other people.

There are plenty of convincing arguments against milk consumption by humans too. Thought perhaps describing milk as mucus is not the way to win hearts and minds!

I disagree.  Your sister was basically asking for advice.

Telling someone "Don't do what you are doing.  It's wrong." is always intrusive.

I agree.  There's also the fact that secretrebel was replying to her sister.  That's a relationship that might allow for more leeway than an individual who one barely knows.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2009, 01:24:36 PM »
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I'm trying not to go off on her but what could I say that makes it clear if she doesn't believe like I do to keep her opinions to herself on MY wall?  Or would something like that be too rude?
I think I would just quietly de-friend her. By posting it publicly, she stepped it up from just quietly pm'ing you the information. She is showing you that she knows best (In her mind) and you don't.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2009, 01:30:28 PM »
If the subject's something you really care about, I don't see anything wrong with sharing it with other people.



I'm afraid that when peole "really care" about something, they tend to lecture. Lecturing other adults is rude, and that is what the woman in the OP did.

I would imagine that there are topics that other people "really care about" that YOU would object to being lectured on.
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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2009, 01:51:48 PM »
Secretrebel (sorry, I can't us the quote function on my phone): There's nothing specifically wrong with commenting on someone's status, but if someone posts something on *my* wall that I am uncomfortable with, I'll delete it. I'm under no obligation to leave it there.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2009, 05:02:20 PM »
I ran into this same situation with someone on my board who is a polar opposite politically to me.  She has called elected officials names that I refuse to have on my board and won't repeat here, and I've asked her to not post her political screeds on my board.  (I didn't say 'screed.'  I said, "I don't agree with you, and I'd appreciate it if you'd keep comments like that on your private board."  Since I said that she's done as I asked.)       

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2009, 06:23:21 AM »
If the subject's something you really care about, I don't see anything wrong with sharing it with other people.



I'm afraid that when peole "really care" about something, they tend to lecture. Lecturing other adults is rude, and that is what the woman in the OP did.

I would imagine that there are topics that other people "really care about" that YOU would object to being lectured on.


I don't think it is automatically lecturing, it's sharing information. I thought my Ugg boot example was fairly neutral.

I think there is obviously a sliding scale. Say you're posting about how you intend to have a big steak for dinner and I comment to say meat is murder and you shouldn't eat a steak and its wrong. (Which is essentially what happened in the OP's milk example.) Well, I'd agree that this is rude.

In the boot example my sister was asking if she should get these boots and, since I know she cares about the ethics of clothing, providing her with that information is genuinely sharing info, not lecturing.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2009, 06:27:20 AM »

I disagree.  Your sister was basically asking for advice.

Telling someone "Don't do what you are doing.  It's wrong." is always intrusive.

I agree.  There's also the fact that secretrebel was replying to her sister.  That's a rel@tionship that might allow for more leeway than an individual who one barely knows.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. Instead of saying there's "nothing wrong" with a political comment, I should have said that there's not necessarily anything wrong with a political comment.

I do think the example in the OP was rude, but I don't think it's always rude to share a 'political' opinion. My sister was asking for advice even though she might not have expected the kind of advice I gave.



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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2009, 07:01:21 AM »

I disagree.  Your sister was basically asking for advice.

Telling someone "Don't do what you are doing.  It's wrong." is always intrusive.

I agree.  There's also the fact that secretrebel was replying to her sister.  That's a rel@tionship that might allow for more leeway than an individual who one barely knows.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. Instead of saying there's "nothing wrong" with a political comment, I should have said that there's not necessarily anything wrong with a political comment.

I do think the example in the OP was rude, but I don't think it's always rude to share a 'political' opinion. My sister was asking for advice even though she might not have expected the kind of advice I gave.




Honestly, I still would have messaged her instead of posting.  She still would have gotten the info she needed and others who own uggs wouldn't feel like their ethics had just been criticized.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2009, 08:44:29 AM »
Eh, I don't think the world needs to protect people from hearing information that could possibly be perceived as critical of them. As long as it's not directed at them rudely. If they're upset by what they "overhear" ("oversee"? "overread"?), then they need a thicker skin.

People need to have the strength of their conviction.

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Re: When someone gets all "political" on your wall
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2009, 09:25:20 AM »
Eh, I don't think the world needs to protect people from hearing information that could possibly be perceived as critical of them. As long as it's not directed at them rudely. If they're upset by what they "overhear" ("oversee"? "overread"?), then they need a thicker skin.

People need to have the strength of their conviction.

For me it depends on how it is presented.  I don't mind "This is some information I found interesting and though you kight want to see."  I'm not so much a fan of "Once you see/hear/learn this I know you will agree with me."