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freakyfemme

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2006, 03:35:05 PM »
Testing, because y'all have me curious as to what you're talking about.

unusually gleefull

unusually gleefull

ETA:  Ah, ok.  I understand now.



Let me try:

gay

gay

GGGGGGAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY

ShadesOfGrey

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2006, 04:29:07 PM »
why not just replace it with the actual term - homosexual? I think it is demeaning not to. 

hmmm I wonder...









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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2006, 04:31:03 PM »
You mean the filter is actually filtering out the word "g@y"?  And replacing it with unusually gleefull?  That's actually pretty dingdangity offensive.

Homosexual is fine, but g@y is a perfectlly acceptable term.

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2006, 05:21:48 PM »
You mean the filter is actually filtering out the word "g@y"? 

Actually, I can see why it is.  It's not that it's an offensive word.  It's just that, as someone else mentioned, banner ads target certain terms within a forum.  And, that one could lead to some ads that we really don't want in here.

Kind of one of those things where it really was the lesser of two evils - ban the word or accept what we'd end up with if it were in here.

Edited because I really do know how to spell "where".




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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2006, 05:31:33 PM »
You can totally control what kinds of ads you get without actually filtering out words like g@y.  For example, with google advertising, I can ban entire types of ads, as well as specific sites that I may disagree with.

freakyfemme

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2006, 07:19:46 PM »
So, can the mods do anything about that?  Can we please have "g@y" back?

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2006, 11:30:14 PM »
actually, I was wrong.  I just looked at my own ad sense setup, and there isn't a "non adult" option.  I was remembering LinkExchange.

Now, google ought to get rid of anything pornographic, but its probably not 100%.  But I'd personally go for something better than "gay" in place of "g@y".

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2006, 09:09:04 AM »
After re-reading these posts, I just realized that the reason it replaces the word g@y with unusually gleeful is because it assumes you are using the word in a derogatory manner and replacing it with 'unusually gleeful' would make the poster look silly...

(I am a little slow sometimes I guess)

I still think that replacing it with the word homosexual is best, IMHO, but I would also rather not see any derogatory remarks at all... 

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2006, 09:59:30 AM »
After re-reading these posts, I just realized that the reason it replaces the word g@y with unusually gleeful is because it assumes you are using the word in a derogatory manner and replacing it with 'unusually gleeful' would make the poster look silly...

(I am a little slow sometimes I guess)

I still think that replacing it with the word homosexual is best, IMHO, but I would also rather not see any derogatory remarks at all... 

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I know *why* the filter replaced it, it just makes me angry that it's set up to treat us all like insensitive, prurient twelve-year-olds rather than the adults we are.  My uncle is g@y, and he has a boyfriend, and many of my friends are g@y/lesbian/bi/questioning as well, and I don't give a flying leap one way or the other.

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2006, 10:28:54 AM »
Well, back to the original situation at hand, I think everyone else involved interpereted the evening differently than you Freaky. Especially if Pedro has been a close friend for a while, it sounds like your parents were more than happy to have him there. Maybe he was lonely and just wanted to hang out with your family. I also think if you really felt that strongly about it you should have just said no and not left it up to your parents to do it for you.

And once it was decided that he was going to come over it was your place to treat him like a guest (meaning happily playing a CD he wanted you too, even if it was his). I also think he was just being polite by asking about the ornament's histories. That's something I would have done. I love hearing stories about my best friend's parents when they were young and just getting together. I don't think those questions were out of place.

I don't think anyone was really rude in this situation. I would just chalk up any unhappiness (except for your brother's) to miscommunication about the importance of it being "family only".

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2006, 11:24:40 AM »
Well, back to the original situation at hand, I think everyone else involved interpereted the evening differently than you Freaky. Especially if Pedro has been a close friend for a while, it sounds like your parents were more than happy to have him there. Maybe he was lonely and just wanted to hang out with your family. I also think if you really felt that strongly about it you should have just said no and not left it up to your parents to do it for you.

And once it was decided that he was going to come over it was your place to treat him like a guest (meaning happily playing a CD he wanted you too, even if it was his). I also think he was just being polite by asking about the ornament's histories. That's something I would have done. I love hearing stories about my best friend's parents when they were young and just getting together. I don't think those questions were out of place.

I don't think anyone was really rude in this situation. I would just chalk up any unhappiness (except for your brother's) to miscommunication about the importance of it being "family only".

[Insert word we're using instead of POD]  This is spot-on, and I agree with it completely.




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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2006, 12:25:09 PM »
DottyG said exactly what I was thinking.

And no, it's not too nosy in this case for a friend to say "oh, what are you doing?" when you say you're busy.  That's being interested in a friend's life.  I wouldn't ask a casual acquaintence that, or a friend who was being very sharp about saying they're busy, but a good friend who mentioned they had plans?  It's conversation.


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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2006, 12:28:19 PM »
DottyG said exactly what I was thinking.

And no, it's not too nosy in this case for a friend to say "oh, what are you doing?" when you say you're busy.  That's being interested in a friend's life.  I wouldn't ask a casual acquaintence that, or a friend who was being very sharp about saying they're busy, but a good friend who mentioned they had plans?  It's conversation.



Well, I think it's a bit rude and short to just say, "Sorry, I'm busy," and to a good friend at that, so I'd volunteered the fact that I'd be decorating the tree with the family as a reason for my unavailability......I just found it odd that he persisted after that.

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Re: Another Christmas etiquette question
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2006, 12:48:11 PM »
Freaky, asking if you minded if he joined you is not persisting.  It's asking your permission to join you and your family at an activity.  Your choice at his question was simple - "yes, Pedro, please come join us" or "no, Pedro, this isn't something you can join us at."  You chose the former.  You may not like that he took you up on that.  But, you can't be angry at him for coming when you clearly said he could.  It's your fault alone.

I know you're upset that your family time was taken by someone outside the family.  But, the only person you can really blame for that is yourself.  You chose to allow him to come.  You, and you alone, are the one who said "yes" instead of "no."

Pedro was not rude in anything he did.  You want him to be so badly.  But, he wasn't, Freaky.  Nothing he did was rude.

And, you weren't rude, either.  But, you were misleading.  And, non-communicative about your true feelings on the subject.  But, that wasn't Pedro's fault, either.