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FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« on: December 03, 2009, 02:18:25 PM »
I have not been here on EHell much as I have taken on a new business venture and it is occupying a frightening amount of time and sanity, but I had to come post after the drama of this past weekend.

As usual, my DH and I spent the Thanksgiving holiday with my side of the family.  One of my cousins has a tradition of going to a Christmas tree farm to pick out their tree on the Saturday - the farm they like has a Santa for photos, a petting zoo, pony rides, wagon rides, concessions, etc.  It's a really fun outing.  On Saturday morning, we all awoke for breakfast (We stayed at one of the family homes) and the cousin was making the plans for their day.  She asked if DH and I, as well as another pair of cousins staying at the house, would like to join them.  We agreed, and we had a lovely day with the two couples and three of my cousin's children.

At several points in the day, I posted status updates and photos to my Facebook page via my smart phone - I had never done mobile updates before and I was having a great time doing it.  Unfortunately, in retrospect, I probably shouldn't have made those updates.

Last night I signed into Facebook (first time since the weekend) to find an Inbox message from another cousin's wife ("Christine") who had been at the Thanksgiving dinner and then went home that night.  It was sent to me, my husband, the two other cousins who went along to the farm (the wives only; the husbands aren't on Facebook) plus the eldest daughter of the "hosting" cousin, aged 16 - who did not even go to the farm!  (She has a retail job and had to work all weekend.)

"I think it's really crappy that all of you decided to go the XYZ Christmas Tree Farm for the day and didn't even think of inviting us.  We tried phoning several of you and nobody was answering.  I suppose it was too much effort to think about calling us back.  You guys practically had to drive by our neighborhood to get to the place and it didn't even cross your minds that we might like to go along. I am sick and tired of the lack of consideration that we get from you people.  Just because we don't stay at [Cousin's] house doesn't mean we want to be left out of fun plans.  You treat us like outsiders and then you talk about us behind our backs.  I still haven't received a call back from anyone saying, 'Hey, sorry, maybe next year.'  This is supposed to be a family, but it has turned into a clique, and you can't deny it.  Christine"

I will admit that it's true; it didn't occur to me personally to ask this family along.  I am not particularly close with this cousin, and I have never become well-acquainted with Christine.  Christine's husband is the older brother of the "host" cousin who organized the outing, so I feel like it should have been up to the hostess whether to invite her brother and his family along. (Re: the phones - coverage is pretty bad out there, and nobody's phone rang all day; my phone was working but Christine doesn't have my number.)

I have left the message unanswered, mainly because I am as yet unable to reply civilly.  (Right now I am so put off by the fact that she dumped this email onto a high-school girl that I cannot even see straight, much less apologize with any sincerity.)  Now Christine's Facebook status reads:  "I guess they all think I will just go away if they ignore me long enough."  Of course, many uninvolved people have commented with messages of concern or nosiness.

How best to respond to her whining message?  I would like to get across to her that we are no longer in junior high school and there is not a "cool kids table" at family dinners, among other things, but I know I shouldn't snark at her.  Every draft I have started has dissolved into angry words.  Or, perhaps I shouldn't say anything beyond "Talk to your sister-in-law."  I need some help here because I'm still pretty upset for my cousin's daughter, who I'm sure is confused and hurt.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 02:29:41 PM »
I think the best response is no response.

If it helps, feel free to post something here (or PM me) to "get it all out" - but do NOT send it.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 02:30:03 PM »
I dont think a response is even necessary.  It wasnt your event to invite her to - you were a guest.  She needs to speak to her SIL about this, you are right (am I correct in stating she didnt send it to the hostess?).

But I simply wouldnt enter the fray.  You arent close enough to this person to enter it, her opinions shouldnt matter to you enough to want to defend yourself. 

If I were clsoe with the 16 year old, I might pm her and say "hey, sorry you had to read that - just ignore it, it has nothing to do with you, and it's not your responsibility to invite this person.  I'm ignoring it too.  Had fun, I loved hearing about your dance experience! (or some other platitude that ends on a positive note)"
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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 02:46:45 PM »
I don't think I'd reply either -- ITA with the PP....

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 03:18:19 PM »
Don't respond to the letter.

You and your husband were guests.  It's not your job to ask the rest of the family along, it's the task of the organizer.

If this "Christine" has a problem with it she should speak to the organizer of the events and leave you out of it.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 05:46:43 PM »
You didn't do anything wrong. It's your Facebook page and you have every right to post pictures of whatever you want on it. I agree don't respond to her. That Christine wasn't invited to go along isn't your problem. Yes she should talk to her sister-in-law. To make that much drama on Facebook is stupid. She's being very childish. Whatever her issues are with everyone else it's got nothing to do with you and I'd stay out of it. She's really got an attitude (and not in a good way!).

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 06:32:19 PM »
Gosh, I wonder why noone thought to invite Little Miss Sunshine along? She sounds like exactly the type of person who would brighten up a Christmas tree hunting expedition.

sigh...

Ignore her.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 07:09:27 PM »
I agree with the previous posters that it wasn't your event to invite her along to.

However I will be Devil's advocate and say maybe she does have a point about the family clique and being excluded. In saying that, from the tone of her facebook post, I wouldn;t be in a hurry to spend time with her.

People get excluded from events all the time just deal with it in a mature way. You are either being excluded unintentionally or you are being given a hint. Either way causing a scene will not get you invited to things.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 07:14:35 PM »
You did nothing wrong by not inviting them, and I don't think you were wrong to post updates. People in groups getting together does not mean the whole group has to be invited. She was rude to imply she needed to be invited, and for chastising you. So, I don't think it requires a response.

If  she corners you you are concerned about keeping the peace, I would say that it was not a family event just a spur of the moment "Want to come along" because you were there. If you want to, apologize for offending but you have no real behavior to apologize for. Keep it short and refuse to address it again, it is ridiculous and not worth the conversation so beandip if they try.

I would not try to teach her anything even though it is so tempting. She should know that family doesn't always have to get together, but mentioning that would be too much like a lecture and ti would probably just cause more problems.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 07:18:58 PM »
I agree with everyone else. It was not your outing so it would not have been appropriate for you to issue invitations.

It's entirely possible that leaving out Christine and her gang was an oversight. Unfortunately, such a snippy message would *not* make me want to include her in the future.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 07:26:14 PM »
I'm going to be the voice of dissent.  You did commit a social faux pas.  You discussed a social event in front of people who were not invited, but could reasonably have assumed that they would be invited.
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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 07:27:55 PM »
Gosh, I wonder why noone thought to invite Little Miss Sunshine along? She sounds like exactly the type of person who would brighten up a Christmas tree hunting expedition.

The Little Miss Sunshine comment isn't fair.

I've been left out of functions where it would've been nice to receive an invitation.  And yes, my feelings were hurt.  I didnt' saything and just let it go but for once, it would've been nice for someone to have said "I'm sorry we didn't think about it but of course you'll be invited next time."  

I do agree that Christine should've emailed the hosts directly as the OP was invited along and therefore as an invited guest, couldn't invite Christine either.  

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 07:36:07 PM »
This doesn't sound like a social event to me. It sounds more like a casual tradition that happened to include some extra friends. While people should try and be sensitive to talking about events  with other people, people's lives are full of lots of people and Facebook would be pretty boring if we couldn't discuss our friends and family.

People are allowed to have more private gatherings. Yes, it may be hurtful to not necessarily be included in those, but even toning down the snark in her letter would still be complaining about an invitation which I thought was rude even if one should have been extended.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »

Ignore her completely. She *wants* a reaction.

What I'd do is block her posts so you don't see them. She can post all the PA garbage she wants, and you won't even know about it.

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Re: FB Drama - Apology expected, yet not forthcoming
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM »
If I understand this correctly, the hostess invited only the house guests. Inviting more people often gets into logistical nightmares. If one wants to be invited, there are better ways of letting the others know. Perhaps by saying, "Sure sounds like fun. Next year, I'd love to come too!"