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So I (stupidly) bought a concert ticket through an online third party vendor.  I paid way too much, but that's beside the point.  I was okay with how much I paid.  The way it works is that ticket brokers buy packages of 'pre-sale' tickets from ticketmaster and then piece them off and use this vending website to sell them to unsuspecting dupes members of the general public who may or may not read all the fine print.

What bothers me is that the concert was moved from one venue to another, and ticketmaster will honor all sales directly from them, but not third party sales.  I'm not at all faulting ticketmaster, they did indeed reissue the tickets to the ticket broker.  Also, the third party vendor website followed their own policy for canceled shows; they issued a refund.  IMO, the proper thing for the broker to do is to honor his/her obligation to the people who bought those tickets from him/her just as ticketmaster did.  I purchased my ticket two months in advance.  Now, I don't have one.  And they jacked the price so high I will no longer consider re-buying it, even if I were not thinking about never using that site again now that I know what they do.

My question:  Can I write a complaint letter to the website?  They followed their own policies, but IMO those policies are rather unethical as I believe I should have been offered first refusal for the re-issued ticket.

To make the sequence of events clearer, I'll repeat them below in bullet points:

  • Two months ago, I buy ticket for more money than it's worth
  • Seller using website confirms purchase and I print off e-ticket
  • About a week ago, I receive an e-mail telling me the concert is canceled and that the price I paid will be credited to my account (confirmed, it indeed was)
  • After searching a bit, I find the concert is not canceled, it has been moved to a bigger venue
  • I speak with ticketmaster which confirms that the original buyer (ticket broker) will be reissued the tickets
  • I search original website for those tickets, find same tickets now cost almost twice as much
  • Tomorrow, tickets at the new venue will go on sale to the general public and getting a new one depends on pure luck and good timing
  • I am rather honked off at the policies of the original website and would like to point out to them that this is unfair and probably screwed over a large portion of their customers for this concert, many of whom may not use this site ever again, and of those, many will tell their friends exactly why, and that I am among those customers who will not be coming back and who will be spreading the word

Is it within the bonds of etiquette to complain to a company for following its own policy if that policy is unfair?
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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 05:11:15 PM »
The policy is there, it was followed to the letter.  I don't think you have any real basis for a complaint.  You could suggest the right of first refusal to the original customers, but beyond that? Everything was as it was supposed to be, according to the company's policies.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2010, 05:22:24 PM »
Unfortunately, that's what I thought.  *sigh*  I'd still like more opinions if there are any out there.  Even if I know what I'll do, it is nice to see what the people here think.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 05:30:16 PM »
I don't think you could complain, because when you purchased the ticket, you agreed to their terms and services and to the price.

All though, maybe just write  a letter of your thoughts and concerns regrading their terms and services.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 05:41:12 PM »
All though, maybe just write  a letter of your thoughts and concerns regrading their terms and services.

I may do this.  I'm totally not complaining about the price, just that not reissuing the tickets once ticketmaster reissued them feels an awful lot like a bait and switch.  And subsequently jacking the price up after their tickets were reissued IMO is unconscionable.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 05:44:26 PM »
   I think you can always express disappointment with a companies policy.  ie Since you have been reissue tickets. I would have been very pleased if I was given first right of refusal.  As the policy is I am very disappointed and may not use your services again.


did the prices go up if you bought from Ticketmaster when the venue changed ?

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 05:46:08 PM »
All though, maybe just write  a letter of your thoughts and concerns regrading their terms and services.

I may do this.  I'm totally not complaining about the price, just that not reissuing the tickets once ticketmaster reissued them feels an awful lot like a bait and switch.  And subsequently jacking the price up after their tickets were reissued IMO is unconscionable.

I know you weren't complaining about the price, but you did mention some concerns regrading pricing. I think it'd be a nice point if you do write the letter. The site almost seems like online scalping.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 05:48:26 PM »
All though, maybe just write  a letter of your thoughts and concerns regrading their terms and services.

I may do this.  I'm totally not complaining about the price, just that not reissuing the tickets once ticketmaster reissued them feels an awful lot like a bait and switch.  And subsequently jacking the price up after their tickets were reissued IMO is unconscionable.

I know you weren't complaining about the price, but you did mention some concerns regrading pricing. I think it'd be a nice point if you do write the letter. The site almost seems like online scalping.

It is.  It's legal scalping.  And the seller figured (I'm thinking) that now that the tickets were reissued and "theirs" again, that they would see if they could get some more money out of it.   :'(

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 05:49:39 PM »
All though, maybe just write  a letter of your thoughts and concerns regrading their terms and services.

I may do this.  I'm totally not complaining about the price, just that not reissuing the tickets once ticketmaster reissued them feels an awful lot like a bait and switch.  And subsequently jacking the price up after their tickets were reissued IMO is unconscionable.

I know you weren't complaining about the price, but you did mention some concerns regrading pricing. I think it'd be a nice point if you do write the letter. The site almost seems like online scalping.

It is.  It's legal scalping.  And the seller figured (I'm thinking) that now that the tickets were reissued and "theirs" again, that they would see if they could get some more money out of it.   :'(

Thankfully, you got your money back.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 06:02:56 PM »
Thankfully, you got your money back.

Yup.  I'm quite thankful with that.


did the prices go up if you bought from Ticketmaster when the venue changed ?

I didn't realize I never answered your question.  No, they did not.  So the original purchaser gets his/her tickets at the same price, and I (the secondary purchaser) gets to call into ticketmaster tomorrow morning and hope that my fingers are faster than anyone else.  However, if I do manage to get a ticket, it will be at a considerably lower price than I originally paid.  The new venue has more seats.  Also, it's out in the middle of nowhere, perhaps making people less inclined to go.  However, it's a very very popular show so the gain of more seats is balanced out by the rabid fans wanting to take any seat available.  My original seat was a good one too...  *grump*

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 07:36:40 PM »
I don't see why you can't complain.  You think their policy is unfair--tell them that.  You can agree to a policy when buying tickets and still complain about it.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 10:53:15 PM »
All though, maybe just write  a letter of your thoughts and concerns regrading their terms and services.

I may do this.  I'm totally not complaining about the price, just that not reissuing the tickets once ticketmaster reissued them feels an awful lot like a bait and switch.  And subsequently jacking the price up after their tickets were reissued IMO is unconscionable.

I know you weren't complaining about the price, but you did mention some concerns regrading pricing. I think it'd be a nice point if you do write the letter. The site almost seems like online scalping.

It is online scalping.

I went to see Wicked at the Orange County (California) Center for Performing Arts.  They don't use Ticketmaster; they sell tickets from their own box office.  Of course, many of the tickets are purchased by these "brokers."

The OCCPA was selling front section tickets for $130.  They were selling high balcony tickets for $35.  Of course, they were sold out. 

The broker was selling the high balcony tickets for $150 and front section tickets for $840.  For that price, I could have flown my entire party to Chicago and taken them to the show at the Arie Crown, which is a lot better venue.
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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 11:03:44 PM »
Sure, write the letter.  And although it's a matter of semantics, the orignal show was not cancelled.  It was moved.  Maybe you should copy your BBB b/c the practice does seem kind of questionnable to me.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2010, 11:32:39 PM »
I would not only write a letter (that will probably go unanswered) but I would also write about it on discussion and complaint forums to warn others of their unethical practices.

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Re: Can I complain? E-tickets...
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 07:19:19 AM »
wait a second ---- they canceled your ticket and refunded your money claiming that the concert was canceled? and the concert wasn't canceled (just moved to different venue)? so they lied and used a false reason to use their refunding policy and then reissued tickets at a higher price?

something doesn't smell right to me. I wonder if this is legal. it's not just "unfair" - this really doesn't sound right to me.
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