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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 03:29:37 PM »
I had wondered this in the past as well, and figured it must just be a difference in brand.  I usually get toddler clothes from Target and usually saw that going on, whereas you rarely see 3T/36 months.

Mine is nearly 3 and I love the pants that have the inner elastic waist adjustment.  Thanks to some lovely genetics from DH and I, our boys have narrow waists and hips and so pants just slide down without a belt or those adjusters.  That and as toddlers they're longer in the torso than in the pants.   Outfits that are sold together in one size often end up needing rolling up of cuffs and taking in at the waist with a belt or that adjusting strap.

Now my oldest is thirteen, I swear he's all legs and predict he'll be taller than me by the end of this school year, as he's 5'1"  now and last I was measured I was 5'2 3/4".

Interjection - I have heard that kids in the USA have larger heads due to better nutrition - so that some clothes have necklines that aren't easily pulled on over their heads if they are made overseas.

I noticed that with my two kids.

As to the shirts being too short to stay tucked in.

My family is built the same way - up until about ten or so - when Younger Brother got stockier. Baby Brother just kept getting taller until about his  early twenties (college)...when his weight started to catch up to his height (he was working at a restaurant by then).  He was finally able to buy pants off the rack that were long enough without having to pleat the waistband with a belt to hold it up instead of sliding off.

We're all long waisted, though, so shirts tend to gap or won't stay tucked in - unless Mom, Grandma, or someone else made the shirt or blouse (I learned to sew in junior high school because Mom was working part time and no longer had enough time to keep up with sewing for four kids - I started sewing for myself so she was only keeping up with three kids).
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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 06:22:11 PM »
I have noticed that Old Navy toddler girls T-Shirts have extremely small necks.  I haven't noticed that from other stores.

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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 06:36:18 PM »
My youngest does not like having things with tight necks pulled over his head, and I can't blame him either. I remember as a kid having shirts get stuck as I'd try to get them on. (Doesn't help our family tends to have big heads) I remember my mom telling me to pull the neck over the back of my head first than the front and that did help some.

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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 11:13:26 PM »
I don't think DD has a particularly large head, but it is annoying how many clothes sized out due to the neckline. 

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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2014, 12:56:08 AM »
The diapered/diaperless thing makes sense.  I know that if you go to various clothing websites or look at clothes patterns, 2T is *fractionally* larger than 24 months, but much less than the difference between 18 and 24 months, or 2T and 3T.

Starting at 2T, my girls have always worn that size for a full year.  Just recently at sizes 6 and 4T, I found that two of them actually wore the clothes for closer to 2 years.  So it is nice not to have to worry so much about seasons.

I'd never noticed any problem with heads fitting through neckholes (in fact, I often find that clothes have a bit of stretch and you can fit the child's head through the neckhole without unsnapping a snap, if there is one).  However, I know that I apparently have a larger-than-average sized head, because your typical "one size fits all" hat is too small for me, and the same thing goes with anything that is fitted for the head (goggles, etc.).  My dad is the same way.

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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2014, 07:09:48 AM »
The diapered/diaperless thing makes sense.  I know that if you go to various clothing websites or look at clothes patterns, 2T is *fractionally* larger than 24 months, but much less than the difference between 18 and 24 months, or 2T and 3T.

Starting at 2T, my girls have always worn that size for a full year.  Just recently at sizes 6 and 4T, I found that two of them actually wore the clothes for closer to 2 years.  So it is nice not to have to worry so much about seasons.

I'd never noticed any problem with heads fitting through neckholes (in fact, I often find that clothes have a bit of stretch and you can fit the child's head through the neckhole without unsnapping a snap, if there is one).  However, I know that I apparently have a larger-than-average sized head, because your typical "one size fits all" hat is too small for me, and the same thing goes with anything that is fitted for the head (goggles, etc.).  My dad is the same way.

My mother tried to order a hat for my dad, as he too couldn't fit average one size fits all hats, and it still turned out too small. So she called the company and the woman said her husband was the same way and by the way, was mom's husband Irish?"  Why yes...apparently the woman on the phone also married an Irish guy with a big head.  Hm!

Anyway, back on subject, it seems sweaters are often the ones with tight neck holes, t shirts tend to be pretty elastic.
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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 09:31:20 PM »
I think 24 month is for children 18 to 24 months and 2T is for children who are 2 years old so I imagine the 2T would be bigger.

Both my DDs are very small for their size and thin with large heads in proportion to their bodies.  I like Carter's because they are more narrow and the neck stretches on the onesies to fit their head.  I've had several shirts where fitting it over their heads is difficult.  I get a lot of mileage out of dresses.  DD1 who is 3 has many of the same ones from last year.  If a dress gets too short, often we put pants with it and it works as a top.

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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2014, 11:37:00 PM »
I think 24 month is for children 18 to 24 months and 2T is for children who are 2 years old so I imagine the 2T would be bigger.

Both my DDs are very small for their size and thin with large heads in proportion to their bodies.  I like Carter's because they are more narrow and the neck stretches on the onesies to fit their head.  I've had several shirts where fitting it over their heads is difficult.  I get a lot of mileage out of dresses.  DD1 who is 3 has many of the same ones from last year.  If a dress gets too short, often we put pants with it and it works as a top.

I think that is why in the neckline that caused a top to be too small for us.  We have a lot of dresses and she has gotten two years out of most of them.  Eventually she saws "Ouch" when putting it on, and then it goes into the too small box. 

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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2014, 07:27:45 AM »
Here in Australia we have three 'categories' of kids' clothing sizes, which seem to be 'infants', 'young kids' and 'bigger kids'.
The infants sizes (especially at Target and K-Mart) tend to be from 0000 (tiny baby) to 2 (18-24 months) and at Target at least they actually have that on the tags/labels. Then when you step up into 'young kids' sizes the size 1 stuff is about the same size as the 12-18 month items in the 'infants' clothes, so you have about 12 months of overlap. The 'young kids' stuff is sizes 1-7, then the 'bigger kids' is sizes 6-16. Mostly it's differences in styles - 'infants' stuff is definitely onesies and baby stuff, then the 'young kids' is more preschooler and toddler as well as branded stuff (especially pyjamas. trying to find PJ's without a character face or logo on them is hard!) then the 'bigger kids' stuff is tweenager/young teen.
Then we step into ladies' wear - from size 8-24, or XXS to XXXL in mens.
But I also have found big differences in brands - BabyDrifter (16 months) is currently in size 1-2 in infants stuff, and size 1, 2 or 3 in 'young kids' clothing, depending on the brand. Some brands have long skinny legs, others have short fat legs and some of the t-shirts like PP have said have really narrow neck holes that she objects to having pulled over her head.
When buying online at the moment, though, I tend to go for either size 24m or 2T, because I know it's a bit big for her in most cases and will fit for a while, yet. (hopefully)
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Re: Baby Clothes Sizing
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2014, 08:17:18 PM »
The diapered/diaperless thing makes sense.  I know that if you go to various clothing websites or look at clothes patterns, 2T is *fractionally* larger than 24 months, but much less than the difference between 18 and 24 months, or 2T and 3T.

Starting at 2T, my girls have always worn that size for a full year.  Just recently at sizes 6 and 4T, I found that two of them actually wore the clothes for closer to 2 years.  So it is nice not to have to worry so much about seasons.

I'd never noticed any problem with heads fitting through neckholes (in fact, I often find that clothes have a bit of stretch and you can fit the child's head through the neckhole without unsnapping a snap, if there is one).  However, I know that I apparently have a larger-than-average sized head, because your typical "one size fits all" hat is too small for me, and the same thing goes with anything that is fitted for the head (goggles, etc.).  My dad is the same way.

My mother tried to order a hat for my dad, as he too couldn't fit average one size fits all hats, and it still turned out too small. So she called the company and the woman said her husband was the same way and by the way, was mom's husband Irish?"  Why yes...apparently the woman on the phone also married an Irish guy with a big head.  Hm!

Anyway, back on subject, it seems sweaters are often the ones with tight neck holes, t shirts tend to be pretty elastic.

How interesting!  I wonder if that's really true.  Because my Dad has full Irish heritage (both parents and all grandparents, etc.), whereas I have half Irish from him.  I should ask him if he knows if anybody else in his family has the big head problem.

It does seem like my girls didn't inherit it, though.  Although, they're all small for their age, which I was a little kid, too (I just kept growing longer, which is why I'm taller than average now), so the head thing might not come up yet.

I agree with Emmy, that generally I think that "6 months" is the same as "0-6 months" and "24 months" is the same as "18-24 months," whereas 2T is the same as "age 2," and that's exactly how my kids have fit into their clothes, or at least until recently.  When my oldest was 3, she wore 3T, etc.  With some clothing items, going up a size was fine, particularly shirts or dresses.  Pants, which are fitted at the waist, are less forgiving.

I do have a friend whose kids wear mixed sizes, something like 5T shirts and 2T pants, or something crazy like that.  I don't remember which way it goes, I think the pant size is smaller, but I'm not exaggerating when I say they're something like 3 sizes apart.  Of course, this particular friend is also about 5'1" and 110 pounds, and her husband is only a few inches taller, so her kids are almost falling off the bottom of the charts in terms of size, so that probably affects their sizing (when you have a really short 5-year-old, he isn't going to be quite the same body proportions as a 3-year-old, despite being the same height).

I've also heard the same as StarDrifter about different brands sizing differently.  Especially in the baby clothes, I think it's Carter's that is known for being long and skinny.  But you'll have some that tend to be long and skinny for the size, others that are short and stocky.  Or a strange mix therein.

I do remember being a kid and wearing about size 6 shoes (probably kid sizes, not adult).  But there was one pair of shoes I had in size 10!  And they were nearly too small.  It was just the fit of those particular shoes.  I remember they were Cherokee, because I was delighted at the name because I was slightly obsessed with the Native American tribe at the time.