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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3030 on: November 22, 2012, 01:49:51 AM »
With regards to the one waitress in the last dinner story... it could have been her break.  She can sit on her car and gab on her break if she wants.  She doesn't need to tell her tables that she's going on break - although breaks are usually only 15 minutes, and any good waitress will do a 'hand off' to another server while on break to ensure customers are taken care of.  I've had servers swap halfway through a meal when one server went off shift and another came on.  Although the manager's comment makes me think it was NOT a scheduled break. Just saying.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3031 on: November 22, 2012, 04:12:25 AM »
With regards to the one waitress in the last dinner story... it could have been her break.  She can sit on her car and gab on her break if she wants.  She doesn't need to tell her tables that she's going on break - although breaks are usually only 15 minutes, and any good waitress will do a 'hand off' to another server while on break to ensure customers are taken care of.  I've had servers swap halfway through a meal when one server went off shift and another came on.  Although the manager's comment makes me think it was NOT a scheduled break. Just saying.

Yeah, my best guess is either she way overstayed her break gabbing (and neglected to hand us off to the other server) or she wasn't supposed to be outside on break at all.  I kind of wonder whether the other srver passive-aggressively "forgot" FIL's soup also because she was sick of her coworker slacking off . . .

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3032 on: November 23, 2012, 11:25:28 AM »
This is from a few years back but the best example of Professional Darwinism I've ever seen:

b/g: I used to work for a residential home for at risk children. We were broken up into different groups, by houses and each house, theoretically had three employees working as a team. To be offered employment with this group, you had to have certain qualifications (college degree for example), you had to pass an intense interview process and background screening, as well as attend a month's worth of training before being in the house. The people working on campus were relatively intelligent and generally had common sense and a great ability to think quickly on their feet. end b/g.

One woman on our campus started working in a house, after working as a supervisor for many years. (Essentially a demotion, but something she wanted to do.) As she was a supervisor, she should have known when paperwork was due, how to file it, and how to fill it out, as well as knowing the safety protocols on campus (such as off campus outings, transportation, and so on).

In her time as a house parent, she:

1: Drove over the lawn in a company van, because she didn't want to take the extra 20 seconds it took on the road. (With youth in the van.)

2. Left a pan of water of water on the stove, then left the house for 8 hours. When she returned home, she saw her error, picked up the pan, to take to the sink. but the bottom fell out of the pan and scorched the floor. (requiring a replacement of the whole kitchen floor.)

3. While picking up one of the youths at an off campus activity, when the youth reached for the door handle (on the van) she started to drive away. She did this multiple times.

4. When it came time to turn in paperwork, (like monthly progress reports) she'd be WEEKS late. This was time sensitive paperwork and she'd hold up essentially the whole process of releasing the paperwork by not turning it in.

Because all of the things she did involved witnesses, she received a "corrective action" each time she did something wrong. I don't recall what she did to finally be let go, but it wasn't pretty, as she didn't understand what she did wrong.


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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3034 on: November 24, 2012, 09:54:08 AM »
PD at its finest:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/22/nonprofit-worker-fired-after-photo-scandal-at-arlington-national-cemetery/

I just don't get how people can be so disrespectful of those that gave their lives and surviving family members. I can't wrap my brain around it. I remember going to Arlington as a child. My parents sat Sis and I  down and explained why the area was sacred and how we were expected to behave. It was spring and I had an allergy/asthma cough. Mom made sure that I had cough drops in my pocket and that I had one in my mouth before we went to watch the changing of the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, so I wouldn't disrupt the ceremony by having a coughing fit.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3035 on: November 24, 2012, 10:34:27 AM »
PD at its finest:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/22/nonprofit-worker-fired-after-photo-scandal-at-arlington-national-cemetery/

The non-profit helps those with physical and mental disabilities, including disabled veterans.   How could this woman think there'd be no consequences?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3036 on: November 24, 2012, 10:36:54 AM »
PD at its finest:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/22/nonprofit-worker-fired-after-photo-scandal-at-arlington-national-cemetery/

I just don't get how people can be so disrespectful of those that gave their lives and surviving family members. I can't wrap my brain around it. I remember going to Arlington as a child. My parents sat Sis and I  down and explained why the area was sacred and how we were expected to behave. It was spring and I had an allergy/asthma cough. Mom made sure that I had cough drops in my pocket and that I had one in my mouth before we went to watch the changing of the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, so I wouldn't disrupt the ceremony by having a coughing fit.

An earlier article gave me the idea that the whole family has an attitude that it's funny to break posted rules.  The whole, "Nobody's going to tell me what to do" mentality.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3037 on: November 24, 2012, 03:26:57 PM »


An earlier article gave me the idea that the whole family has an attitude that it's funny to break posted rules.  The whole, "Nobody's going to tell me what to do" mentality.

Well, in fairness I could see myself pretending to break posted rules for a funny photo so I don't think that's an *inherently* evil act. It's important to understand what's an appropriate target to aim at though...
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3038 on: November 24, 2012, 03:45:30 PM »


An earlier article gave me the idea that the whole family has an attitude that it's funny to break posted rules.  The whole, "Nobody's going to tell me what to do" mentality.

Well, in fairness I could see myself pretending to break posted rules for a funny photo so I don't think that's an *inherently* evil act. It's important to understand what's an appropriate target to aim at though...

You have to know where to draw the line, too. Pretending to yell at a sign is funny. The finger is actual disrespect, not pretense. :(
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3039 on: November 24, 2012, 04:17:15 PM »


An earlier article gave me the idea that the whole family has an attitude that it's funny to break posted rules.  The whole, "Nobody's going to tell me what to do" mentality.

Well, in fairness I could see myself pretending to break posted rules for a funny photo so I don't think that's an *inherently* evil act. It's important to understand what's an appropriate target to aim at though...

You have to know where to draw the line, too. Pretending to yell at a sign is funny. The finger is actual disrespect, not pretense. :(

True, and in all honesty I wouldn't have done the 'fake yelling' at Arlington either, and I'm not even from the US. Some things are fair game to make light of and others ... just aren't.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3040 on: November 24, 2012, 04:58:07 PM »
Not from the US either, and though I do have a macabre sense of humor I simply don't know what was going through her head having that photo taken. I do know that if she had tried that over here at the massacre sites she would probably have been lynched and quartered by the calmest people on earth. A sense of humor only goes so far.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3041 on: November 24, 2012, 05:15:39 PM »

Well, in fairness I could see myself pretending to break posted rules for a funny photo so I don't think that's an *inherently* evil act. It's important to understand what's an appropriate target to aim at though...

You have to know where to draw the line, too. Pretending to yell at a sign is funny. The finger is actual disrespect, not pretense. :(

My thoughts exactly. When I first saw the story on  TV I thought she was just pretending to yell, which was dumb but not bad enough to get fired for. Then the newscaster pointed out that they'd blurred her finger and I thought, "Oh, like hell. Fire her."

I do think she was in the same mental space as the many folks who post "I do what I want" pictures, with them disobeying various signs. The vast majority of those are stupid at best, but at least vaguely funny and perfectly harmless. There are rules, though. Swigging a soda next to a "No Food Or Drinks" sign is not the same thing as flipping off the Tomb of the Unknowns, for God's sake.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3042 on: November 24, 2012, 05:21:03 PM »
What stands out to me is she had to go out of her way to do this. You don't just stumble upon the Tomb of the Unknowns, you have to ride the bus through Arlington for some distance, then walk through gardens and a ampitheatre type building to get there.  She really put in a lot of effort to spit in the faces of heroes.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3043 on: November 24, 2012, 06:04:43 PM »
And she was on a company trip and the photo was taken by a fellow worker.  This is one time, in my opinion, the company was very justified in firing the workers since it very much reflected on the the company; their funded trip, and their company focus of working with vetrans.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3044 on: November 24, 2012, 06:50:59 PM »
PD at its finest:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/22/nonprofit-worker-fired-after-photo-scandal-at-arlington-national-cemetery/

Fired is certainly appropriate. The death threats she's been receiving since this picture went viral are OTT, though.