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Iris

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3855 on: June 13, 2013, 12:46:05 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm no kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3856 on: June 13, 2013, 01:04:19 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm not kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D

Oh, I have people call me Master.... mostly clients who want to joke around with me though ;) But yes, I do get called "Master Maria" on a fairly regular basis ;)
 
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3857 on: June 13, 2013, 01:13:38 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm not kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D

Oh, I have people call me Master.... mostly clients who want to joke around with me though ;) But yes, I do get called "Master Maria" on a fairly regular basis ;)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3858 on: June 13, 2013, 03:33:21 AM »
Your wish is my command.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjgHEctcy0

Ladyknight1, thanks for the link. I need you to do something else for me now, though. Could you come pick my jaw off the floor?

I'm stunned that these people could be this......hateful? Paranoid? Delusional? Crazy? Stupid? Dangerous? Mean? All of the above?

Wow.


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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3859 on: June 13, 2013, 06:14:07 AM »
Presented for your consideration is the story of Bela.

This is one from a good 20 years ago but it's a creepy classic.

Bela was an interesting character.  He was a Hungarian living in South Africa.  He was an Assyrioligist serving a year-long stint as a visiting scholar at a University in our city and doing his own research at the museum. 

...

It turned out that delightful Bela was stalking the graduate student who was his research assistant.  One night, she woke up to hear noise outside her apartment door.  Groggy with sleep, she thought her cat might have gotten out and opened the door to let it back in.  Standing there was Bela...at three in the morning.

This is completely OT, but it reminded me of a lovely story about Christopher Lee, back in his youth when he had just become famous for his Hammer Horror portrayals of Dracula. Apparently he was driving through rural Italy on holiday late one night, when his car broke down and he had to walk to the nearest house to get help.

Picture it, you live in a very small and isolated farmhouse, it's past midnight, you and your family are all in bed, when there's a knock at the door. Half-asleep, you stumble downstairs and open the door, to find standing in front of you... 

Apparently, the poor farmer fainted dead away on the spot.

(I can't remember where I heard this, but if it isn't true, then I can only say it should be.  ;D)
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3860 on: June 13, 2013, 10:20:02 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

 ;) I am about to marry a pastor, and we met with a realtor last night who is one of his parishoners.  She asked if it was okay if she continued to call him "Pastor" when working together.  He said that was fine, though his first name is also fine, and then I insisted that she refer to me as "Majesty," you know, because I am the mother of my DD, who fancies herself a princess.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3861 on: June 13, 2013, 10:42:02 AM »
I never knew my father even had a doctorate until I was an adult, and never knew he was head of the lab he worked in until his funeral, when so many of his former employees came up to tell me what a good boss he was :(.

Your father: He was doing it right.

Well... I have to disagree, sadly.  A person not knowing major details (education, profession details) about a parent speaks volumes (pardon the pun) about a lack of communication.

I meant he was doing it right in not telling everyone about it, though I agree he should have told his children.

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« Reply #3862 on: June 13, 2013, 11:10:07 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm no kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D

This is the most awesome thing I've heard in months.  Do you mind if I steal it?  Also, since I have a masters in mathematics, is it okay to insist on being called "Master" as well?  The difference these things could make in my life...
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3863 on: June 13, 2013, 11:49:24 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm no kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D

This is the most awesome thing I've heard in months.  Do you mind if I steal it?  Also, since I have a masters in mathematics, is it okay to insist on being called "Master" as well?  The difference these things could make in my life...

Mistress of Math?  Mistress of Mathematics? 

Or if you are male - Master of Mathematics. 

Get a long black scarf with white numerals and various mathematical signs knitted (or crocheted) into it.  Or printed, if it is fleece.  I've seen something similar with ABCs and 123s for back to school.  I wonder if there is a more academically advanced version?
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3864 on: June 13, 2013, 01:55:32 PM »
I never knew my father even had a doctorate until I was an adult, and never knew he was head of the lab he worked in until his funeral, when so many of his former employees came up to tell me what a good boss he was :(.

Your father: He was doing it right.

Well... I have to disagree, sadly.  A person not knowing major details (education, profession details) about a parent speaks volumes (pardon the pun) about a lack of communication.

I meant he was doing it right in not telling everyone about it, though I agree he should have told his children.

I'll go ahead and ask, because it bothers me. Why is "telling everyone about it" bad?
It's bizarre to me that so many think simply using a title that one worked for and legitimately earned is bad etiquette (not to mention the catty PhDs-aren't-that-smart-anyway sniping later in the thread. Really? On an etiquette board?). I've seen this attitude come out just about any time PhDs, among other things, are mentioned. The consensus seems to be that we're* not allowed to even mention our accomplishments because that's "bragging" and people who haven't done the same might feel baaaad about themselves, and I don't understand the thought process behind that.




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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3865 on: June 13, 2013, 02:41:58 PM »
I never knew my father even had a doctorate until I was an adult, and never knew he was head of the lab he worked in until his funeral, when so many of his former employees came up to tell me what a good boss he was :(.

Your father: He was doing it right.

Well... I have to disagree, sadly.  A person not knowing major details (education, profession details) about a parent speaks volumes (pardon the pun) about a lack of communication.

I meant he was doing it right in not telling everyone about it, though I agree he should have told his children.

I'll go ahead and ask, because it bothers me. Why is "telling everyone about it" bad?
It's bizarre to me that so many think simply using a title that one worked for and legitimately earned is bad etiquette (not to mention the catty PhDs-aren't-that-smart-anyway sniping later in the thread. Really? On an etiquette board?). I've seen this attitude come out just about any time PhDs, among other things, are mentioned. The consensus seems to be that we're* not allowed to even mention our accomplishments because that's "bragging" and people who haven't done the same might feel baaaad about themselves, and I don't understand the thought process behind that.




*Technically, it's not "we", yet, but I'm working on it.

My feeling is that in any type of social circumstance where most of the folk are being called by their first name, calling oneself a doctor is very off putting.  When everyone is using their title, or in a setup where the use of Dr is appropriate, as in Dr's office or class room then time to use it.

I really dislike having someone introduce themselves as Dr. _ at a party.  Of course it has backfired on at least one person when we all reintroduced ourselves using our correct titles.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3866 on: June 13, 2013, 02:48:18 PM »
I'll go ahead and ask, because it bothers me. Why is "telling everyone about it" bad?
It's bizarre to me that so many think simply using a title that one worked for and legitimately earned is bad etiquette (not to mention the catty PhDs-aren't-that-smart-anyway sniping later in the thread. Really? On an etiquette board?). I've seen this attitude come out just about any time PhDs, among other things, are mentioned. The consensus seems to be that we're* not allowed to even mention our accomplishments because that's "bragging" and people who haven't done the same might feel baaaad about themselves, and I don't understand the thought process behind that.

*Technically, it's not "we", yet, but I'm working on it.


A professor who wants to be called, "Dr. Martin" by their students? No problem. Mentioning your degree when it's relevent? No problem. Demanding that everyone you meet, including the cashier at the gas station, call you Doctor? Rude, whether you're an MD or a PhD.

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Grancalla

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3867 on: June 13, 2013, 03:31:53 PM »
I'll go ahead and ask, because it bothers me. Why is "telling everyone about it" bad?
It's bizarre to me that so many think simply using a title that one worked for and legitimately earned is bad etiquette (not to mention the catty PhDs-aren't-that-smart-anyway sniping later in the thread. Really? On an etiquette board?). I've seen this attitude come out just about any time PhDs, among other things, are mentioned. The consensus seems to be that we're* not allowed to even mention our accomplishments because that's "bragging" and people who haven't done the same might feel baaaad about themselves, and I don't understand the thought process behind that.

*Technically, it's not "we", yet, but I'm working on it.


A professor who wants to be called, "Dr. Martin" by their students? No problem. Mentioning your degree when it's relevent? No problem. Demanding that everyone you meet, including the cashier at the gas station, call you Doctor? Rude, whether you're an MD or a PhD.

Why, though? That's what I don't get. How is Dr any different from Mrs or Mr? Why is it fine to introduce myself as Ms. Grancalla, but introducing myself as Dr. Grancalla makes me rude/demanding/SS? It makes no sense to me.
Also, who gets to decide when it's "relevant"? By the time I'm done with my degree, I will have spent a rather sizable chunk of my life on it. That makes it a very relevant part of my identity, as far as I'm concerned, and not just in a professional context. If we go by the same logic, calling yourself Mrs. Smith is only polite in situations relevant to marriage

(People will probably say they only meant people who pull the how-dare-you-not-call-me-Dr-even-though-there's-no-way-you-would-have-known-about-it BS, but if you look at previous threads, you'll see it's not limited to that. Even something as simple as: "Is it Ms or Mrs. Smith?" "It's Dr. Smith, actually" gets people called SS.)
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3868 on: June 13, 2013, 03:55:01 PM »
I see what you are saying, Grancalla. To me it is equally weird to use "Mrs. Dove" in casual socializing.

Iris

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3869 on: June 13, 2013, 04:00:11 PM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm no kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D

This is the most awesome thing I've heard in months.  Do you mind if I steal it?  Also, since I have a masters in mathematics, is it okay to insist on being called "Master" as well?  The difference these things could make in my life...

Go right ahead. :) I also like the full "Master of Mathematics". It sounds so much more impressive than just plain "Master". And I agree that it needs an outfit as well. Of course since I have a plain old bachelor's degree in mathematics I probably should bow or something...
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