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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4215 on: August 25, 2013, 01:09:10 PM »
I just heard this one from the mother of a new middle-schooler.

When the middle-school students went to their first day of classes last Wednesday, none of them had gotten their schedules.  That's because there were no schedules.  As in, none of the teachers knew which classes they were teaching, what times the classes would be held, what room the classes would be in, and how many students were signed up for the class.

Somehow, the principal (who makes up these schedules) had managed to keep the board from finding out about this little problem until the first day of school.  By the second day of school, there was a new principal.

My brother used to do the scheduling at the high school where he was the assistant principal. One year, it took him 6 weeks to get everything sorted out correctly, the end of June and all of July.

He went in to work one day in August and the principal informed him, "I changed the schedule a bit because Mrs. Scott didn't want to teach an 8 o'clock class. So that's fixed. But I may have messed up one or two other classes."

What he'd done was mess up the entire schedule for the entire school. Six weeks worth of work down the drain. My brother had planned a nice vacation with his wife and children for mid-August, but he had to send them on their way without him--he had to work the entire month of August to fix things in time to send out the schedules before school started.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4216 on: August 25, 2013, 07:51:10 PM »
Ours are published in a local newspaper once a year. The glories of being a public employee are many and varied.

All government and state-supported university salaries have been public information for a long time.  In my state the salaries, start date, and job classifications of specific people are easily accessed.

I have mixed feelings about it, but it is what it is.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4217 on: August 25, 2013, 09:46:20 PM »
Ours are published in a local newspaper once a year. The glories of being a public employee are many and varied.

All government and state-supported university salaries have been public information for a long time.  In my state the salaries, start date, and job classifications of specific people are easily accessed.

I have mixed feelings about it, but it is what it is.

It's not always easy to figure out what the difference between "Buzzword Coordinator I", "Buzzword Coordinator II," and "Senior Buzzword Coordinator" are, though, other than the salaries.

Thanks to this, though, I know that my college hires three salary levels of able-bodied seamen.  Whoda thunk?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4218 on: August 25, 2013, 11:36:49 PM »
It's curtains for him!!  ;D  :P

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4219 on: August 26, 2013, 09:06:58 AM »
I just heard this one from the mother of a new middle-schooler.

When the middle-school students went to their first day of classes last Wednesday, none of them had gotten their schedules.  That's because there were no schedules.  As in, none of the teachers knew which classes they were teaching, what times the classes would be held, what room the classes would be in, and how many students were signed up for the class.

Somehow, the principal (who makes up these schedules) had managed to keep the board from finding out about this little problem until the first day of school.  By the second day of school, there was a new principal.

My brother used to do the scheduling at the high school where he was the assistant principal. One year, it took him 6 weeks to get everything sorted out correctly, the end of June and all of July.

He went in to work one day in August and the principal informed him, "I changed the schedule a bit because Mrs. Scott didn't want to teach an 8 o'clock class. So that's fixed. But I may have messed up one or two other classes."

What he'd done was mess up the entire schedule for the entire school. Six weeks worth of work down the drain. My brother had planned a nice vacation with his wife and children for mid-August, but he had to send them on their way without him--he had to work the entire month of August to fix things in time to send out the schedules before school started.

why wasn't the solution as simple as telling Mrs. Scott she had to work athe 8 o'clock class?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4220 on: August 26, 2013, 09:22:43 AM »

My brother used to do the scheduling at the high school where he was the assistant principal. One year, it took him 6 weeks to get everything sorted out correctly, the end of June and all of July.

He went in to work one day in August and the principal informed him, "I changed the schedule a bit because Mrs. Scott didn't want to teach an 8 o'clock class. So that's fixed. But I may have messed up one or two other classes."

What he'd done was mess up the entire schedule for the entire school. Six weeks worth of work down the drain. My brother had planned a nice vacation with his wife and children for mid-August, but he had to send them on their way without him--he had to work the entire month of August to fix things in time to send out the schedules before school started.

why wasn't the solution as simple as telling Mrs. Scott she had to work athe 8 o'clock class?

Rob

Both of my parents and my husband were high school teachers. I have never heard of anyone with this kind of influence, or even the nerve to ask, even with laboratory preps to do. I can not imagine an elementary school teacher trying to pull that! And even the bus driver says, "Don't schedule any kids on my route for first hour classes. I don't want to get up in time."

I'm creating lots of other scenarios, each more ludicrous than the previous.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4221 on: August 26, 2013, 09:27:40 AM »
why wasn't the solution as simple as telling Mrs. Scott she had to work athe 8 o'clock class?

Rob

Because Mrs. Scott plays scrabble with the principal?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4222 on: August 26, 2013, 10:18:54 AM »

My brother used to do the scheduling at the high school where he was the assistant principal. One year, it took him 6 weeks to get everything sorted out correctly, the end of June and all of July.

He went in to work one day in August and the principal informed him, "I changed the schedule a bit because Mrs. Scott didn't want to teach an 8 o'clock class. So that's fixed. But I may have messed up one or two other classes."

What he'd done was mess up the entire schedule for the entire school. Six weeks worth of work down the drain. My brother had planned a nice vacation with his wife and children for mid-August, but he had to send them on their way without him--he had to work the entire month of August to fix things in time to send out the schedules before school started.

why wasn't the solution as simple as telling Mrs. Scott she had to work athe 8 o'clock class?

Rob
I'd imagine at that point, you're dealing with undoing more than just 1 or to changes.

I've had more than one schedule conversation that went:

"Hi Mr. Green, I know JimBob told you last week that you were switched to Tues-Thurs @ 2.  We need to switch you back to Mon-Wed@1. ....You've already re-arranged childcare and can't do the 1?  Crap"
or
"I know that doing Biology on Mon-Wed-Fri works better for the lab availability but the prep-person isn't available on Fridays, we need to do it on Tues-thurs"

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4223 on: August 26, 2013, 10:41:47 AM »
I've just remembered one which I so much wish had been PD but this person somehow had a cone of invincibility around her and never got in trouble for anything she did.  She sent out super confidential information via email which got forwarded on to someone edited it for their own means and forwarded it on again, the recipient contacted her boss to verify the information and the story unravelled.  When someone pointed out the error came from emailing confidential information in an editable format her response was "It's never been a problem before" and the same response was given when someone said something about not doing it again.  As far as I know she continued to email super confidential information in editable formats.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4224 on: August 26, 2013, 10:56:01 AM »

I'm creating lots of other scenarios, each more ludicrous than the previous.

Maybe Mrs Scott didn't demand anything. She could only have asked in passing (not knowing the schedule was already done).
There was only the principals word for it and he could have said 'doesn't want' instead of 'couldn't'. She could have been asking for that for 5 years, she could be a very valuable teacher and the principals doesn't wants her to find another school, she could have a pretty valid reason that principal is only trying to accommodate (she's carring for an elderly relative and home-help can only be there at 8am, special need anyone in the households, she already have 2h of commuting..).

The problems lies squarely on the principal, he's the one who screwed the schedule without asking or telling the one who actually did the schedule.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4225 on: August 26, 2013, 12:01:57 PM »

I'm creating lots of other scenarios, each more ludicrous than the previous.

Maybe Mrs Scott didn't demand anything. She could only have asked in passing (not knowing the schedule was already done).
There was only the principals word for it and he could have said 'doesn't want' instead of 'couldn't'. She could have been asking for that for 5 years, she could be a very valuable teacher and the principals doesn't wants her to find another school, she could have a pretty valid reason that principal is only trying to accommodate (she's carring for an elderly relative and home-help can only be there at 8am, special need anyone in the households, she already have 2h of commuting..).

The problems lies squarely on the principal, he's the one who screwed the schedule without asking or telling the one who actually did the schedule.

Exactly. That is why a large system cannot accomodate every whim or special need.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4226 on: August 26, 2013, 11:41:38 PM »
I know what you mean. I get less hours at work now because I say I can't work nights, but I don't want to go back to that year I spent working until 8pm and having dinner at 10am. DH and I were newlywed a and we hardly saw each other.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4227 on: August 26, 2013, 11:59:17 PM »
-snip-a cone of invincibility -snip-

I want one!  I want one!  Where do you get them?  I'll even pay!  (Well, if it's a reasonable price)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4228 on: August 27, 2013, 05:50:18 AM »
I've just remembered one which I so much wish had been PD but this person somehow had a cone of invincibility around her and never got in trouble for anything she did.  She sent out super confidential information via email which got forwarded on to someone edited it for their own means and forwarded it on again, the recipient contacted her boss to verify the information and the story unravelled.  When someone pointed out the error came from emailing confidential information in an editable format her response was "It's never been a problem before" and the same response was given when someone said something about not doing it again.  As far as I know she continued to email super confidential information in editable formats.

I work in a university. We had one woman send out blank copies of our degree certificates to students. I have no idea why she thought this was a good idea.

We only discovered it after she had a nervous breakdown and her courses were passed to other people. A student rang me asking for another copy. I was pretty sure we didn't do that and had no idea where I would find one anyway, so I emailed my senior manager to ask. Panic ensued.

I still don't know how that woman is still working for us. It's hard to fire someone in our sector but I'd have thought that would do it.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4229 on: August 27, 2013, 06:17:35 AM »
I doubt this will be PD, but it's not winning her any points.

We have a new coworker on staff who started on Monday, who in the last day and half of working here has asked for:

1) lifts to and from work from a coworker who lives near her because her car is currently in the shop
2) to borrow someone's usb drive for copying movies (not sure she's returned it yet either)
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker
4) to use someone's perscription painkillers (because the normal over the counter stuff wasn't good enough for her).

Note that these are only things I've witnessed in my direct earshot, so there could very well be many other instances of her asking for things from people.

She is also naggy as heck. When the techies were setting up her laptop for her, she was in their office every 30 minutes or so asking them repeatedly if it was done yet.

I sense much unpleasentness ahead.  :-\
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