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cwm

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4320 on: August 28, 2013, 12:45:51 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-23761643

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4321 on: August 28, 2013, 01:20:39 PM »
This appears to be rather public Darwinism. 

http://www.tvguide.com/News/George-Eads-CSI-Leave-Absence-1069674.aspx


From my readings of the article 'sabbatical' seems to be a euphemism for 'suspended.'

Or maybe the situation was out of character for the 8 months pregnant writer? 

I'm not trying to jump to conclusions, but I always understood that by 8 months, hormones and stuff might leave you a little cranky.

So give everyone some space, and revisit after the birth? 

If that's the case, it seems like a good solution.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4322 on: August 28, 2013, 02:19:28 PM »
If the writer was also out of line, I would hope that they would also be taking a sabbatical. Seems very unfair otherwise to only penalize one person. Especially since that person ended up with the time off being announced in the media.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4323 on: August 28, 2013, 02:23:08 PM »
Am I the only one who could imagine how an angry script writer could punish an actor without getting him fired?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4324 on: August 28, 2013, 02:47:11 PM »
Isn't that why an episode from a few years back had George Eades' character in all kinds of unpleasant situations, including being buried alive and covered with fire ants?    I'm pretty sure I remember something like that.

If so, the moral of the story is:  don't p*** off CSI writers.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4325 on: August 28, 2013, 02:51:25 PM »
Yeah, that was the Quentin Tarantino season finale quite a bit back.  Good episodes.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4326 on: August 28, 2013, 02:51:34 PM »
Isn't that why an episode from a few years back had George Eades' character in all kinds of unpleasant situations, including being buried alive and covered with fire ants?    I'm pretty sure I remember something like that.

If so, the moral of the story is:  don't p*** off CSI writers.

I'm pretty sure that episode was that disturbing because it was directed by Quentin Tarantino, not because a writer was feeling vindictive towards George Eads.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4327 on: August 28, 2013, 03:07:30 PM »
Why was it necessary to mention the writer was pregnant? I still don't understand that.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4328 on: August 28, 2013, 03:08:57 PM »
Why was it necessary to mention the writer was pregnant? I still don't understand that.

Yeah, that bugged me too.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4329 on: August 28, 2013, 03:29:53 PM »
I did not get why the pregnancy was mentioned either, unless it was to try to make George look bad, you know 'the mean man who yelled at the pregnant lady.'

And were I a CSI actor, I would stay on the writer's good sides. They can put you in all sorts of awful, gross, yucky situations!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4330 on: August 28, 2013, 03:45:33 PM »
Well, to be fair, he wasn't actually buried alive and covered in real fire ants so if that was intended as a way to get even with him it wouldn't be very effective. It seems to me that I recall reading that at the time it wasn't about a dispute with the writers but that his contract was up (along with Jorja Fox) and he was trying to negotiate for more money than the producers wanted to pay. Almost killing off his character to prove he's not all that essential is good salary negotiation leverage.

The problem I've always found with dramatic shows like CSI and even NCIS and Criminal Minds et al is that they have to keep one-upping themselves. For a while it's exciting but there is no way to win a game of thermonuclear war against yourself...soon they end up lining up their motorcycle to jump a shark tank...and the shark is 50 feet long and has a laser...'cause they have to one-up that too.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4331 on: August 28, 2013, 04:03:08 PM »
If I recall correctly, he and Jorja Fox were let go during their contract dispute and then resigned.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4332 on: August 28, 2013, 04:03:35 PM »
... It seems to me that I recall reading that at the time it wasn't about a dispute with the writers but that his contract was up (along with Jorja Fox) and he was trying to negotiate for more money than the producers wanted to pay. Almost killing off his character to prove he's not all that essential is good salary negotiation leverage...

The contract negotiation was actually the end of the season prior to the one that ended with fire ants.  That was just done for kicks (and Quentin Tarantino).

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4333 on: August 28, 2013, 04:04:29 PM »
I did not get why the pregnancy was mentioned either, unless it was to try to make George look bad, you know 'the mean man who yelled at the pregnant lady.'

And were I a CSI actor, I would stay on the writer's good sides. They can put you in all sorts of awful, gross, yucky situations!

See, and I didn't take it that way.  I was thinking..."the guy who said the wrong thing to the very pregnant lady". As in...it might not be too smart to start an argument with someone that has a physical reason to be extra cranky.

So, I saw George not as mean, but as not too smart. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4334 on: August 28, 2013, 04:44:18 PM »
If the writer was also out of line, I would hope that they would also be taking a sabbatical. Seems very unfair otherwise to only penalize one person. Especially since that person ended up with the time off being announced in the media.

The writer is 8 months pregnant...I really hope that she'll be taking at least 6 weeks and I pray more time off in the very near future because she's having a baby, so it may be that they decided to send him on sabbatical and just wait for her to take a break when she's given birth.
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