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AngelicGamer

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4560 on: September 30, 2013, 10:56:55 PM »
Yep, saw it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/29/quit-your-job-kayne-dance_n_4013902.html?ir=Business

Considering that she got no lunch break, constant changes to schedule and job duties, and managers failing to help... I'm kind of on her side.  I feel she's going to find a new job.  Might not be in journalism, but I think she's going to be okay.

Also, did anybody go to the blog post?  I'm kind of wondering about her co-workers when she reports "Iíve heard actual sighs of disappointment when we learned nobody died in a building collapse".  Okay then.



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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4561 on: September 30, 2013, 11:01:12 PM »
Yep, saw it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/29/quit-your-job-kayne-dance_n_4013902.html?ir=Business

Considering that she got no lunch break, constant changes to schedule and job duties, and managers failing to help... I'm kind of on her side.  I feel she's going to find a new job.  Might not be in journalism, but I think she's going to be okay.

Also, did anybody go to the blog post?  I'm kind of wondering about her co-workers when she reports "Iíve heard actual sighs of disappointment when we learned nobody died in a building collapse".  Okay then.

The job may have been horrible and quitting the right thing to do.  However, you don't (professionally) quit a job by posting a video on the internet - you type up a letter giving your two weeks notice and leave.  Or if you're that pushed to the wall, you walk in to your boss's office and say, sorry, I can't handle this, I'm leaving. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4562 on: October 01, 2013, 12:44:50 AM »
Yep, saw it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/29/quit-your-job-kayne-dance_n_4013902.html?ir=Business

Considering that she got no lunch break, constant changes to schedule and job duties, and managers failing to help... I'm kind of on her side.  I feel she's going to find a new job.  Might not be in journalism, but I think she's going to be okay.

Also, did anybody go to the blog post?  I'm kind of wondering about her co-workers when she reports "Iíve heard actual sighs of disappointment when we learned nobody died in a building collapse".  Okay then.

The job may have been horrible and quitting the right thing to do.  However, you don't (professionally) quit a job by posting a video on the internet - you type up a letter giving your two weeks notice and leave.  Or if you're that pushed to the wall, you walk in to your boss's office and say, sorry, I can't handle this, I'm leaving.

On the other hand, if your field primarily involves making videos which are intended to go viral and get tons of hits, posting an "I quit" video which gets on the front page of Yahoo and ends up with hundreds of thousands of views (at the time I saw it) might be exactly the thing that gets you hired somewhere else  :P

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4563 on: October 01, 2013, 02:38:09 AM »
When PD snowflakes collide:

Mr 16 Years (from this post: http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=74341.msg2948446#msg2948446) has run face first into Little Miss Needy (from this post: http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=74341.msg3006519#msg3006519).

Yesterday I got to sit in one of the most uncomfortable team meetings ever. The last 15 minutes were tied up in a very tense conversation between Miss Needy (legitimately) asking why it was taking Mr 16Y so long to get his act together and get this darn project moving. Mr 16Y spent it accussing Miss Needy of not understanding how Mr 16Y works, what the necessary tasks are, and very nearly flat out stating that Miss Needy doesn't know how to do her job. It was all icy politeness and gritted teeth, but I suspect Miss Needy will be on Mr 16Y's  silent treatment naughty list, which is going to make this project all kinds of awesome.

The rest of the team spent the last 15 minutes of the meeting staring at their notepads or laptop screens and studiously ignoring the venomously polite argument going on.

Then my coworker with the female-dog-dar mentioned that Mr 16Y had grabbed Boss later that day to complain loud and long about having his proffessionalism insulted.
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« Reply #4564 on: October 01, 2013, 05:34:14 AM »
I know the feeling.  Mr. Thipu was a government employee.  Although the service for which he worked generated a substantial profit for the state, it was always under great pressure to cut back.  The annual picnic had to go.   

It didn't help that the directors of the service were appointed by the Governor so top management changed every four years.

I think it's also unfortunate that many of the fifth estate sometimes jump the gun and accuse government workers of not doing things properly, when the real problem is that the reporter doesn't understand what it is that is being done. (I mentioned earlier about the TV station that gave a scathing denunciation of a government department that had come to a neighborhood, opened the fire hydrant and left, leaving the water gushing. Turns out there had been a pressure buildup in the water system, and this was the only option for relieving it until repairs could be made.)
A few years back a man walked into an elementary school in my district. He wanted to volunteer - an specifically mentioned he wanted to work with student John Smith. Secretary hears alarm bells. She gave him the paper work, excused herself and called John Smith's parents.


The "volunteer" had just gotten out of jail for abusing John Smith. Secretary called the cops tried to delay "volunteer". He got spooked and left.


Admin was told. They sent out a warning with a description. Volunteer heads to another school with another former victim. Secretary there tries to delay him while the cops were called - but this is a different department in a different city. He gets spooked and leaves. The cops give Admin mug shots and are out looking for him. HE shows up at a third school - this one in the county. Sheriff's department has been notified. Secretary does the delay thing. He gets spooked. The three departments + state cops start covering the next set of schools going out from the three schools he showed up at. THey catch him, his parole is revoked, new charges filed and he goes back to school.


Headline - Local School allows Known (Type offence) to Volunteer


The cops said the 1st school did the right thing, and had ordered the other schools to have him fill out paper work to 1 delay him, 2 get fingerprints to prove he had been in the school - which is illegal due to his status as an offender. Also we were all on a modified lock down. (kids escorted from place to place interior doors locked, but class continued instead of being flat on floor.) Cops were basically compared to Keystone cops, when 4 different agencies and cooperated and worked together. There was no scandal so they had to make one up.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4565 on: October 01, 2013, 07:12:19 AM »
Yep, saw it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/29/quit-your-job-kayne-dance_n_4013902.html?ir=Business

Considering that she got no lunch break, constant changes to schedule and job duties, and managers failing to help... I'm kind of on her side.  I feel she's going to find a new job.  Might not be in journalism, but I think she's going to be okay.

Also, did anybody go to the blog post?  I'm kind of wondering about her co-workers when she reports "Iíve heard actual sighs of disappointment when we learned nobody died in a building collapse".  Okay then.

The job may have been horrible and quitting the right thing to do.  However, you don't (professionally) quit a job by posting a video on the internet - you type up a letter giving your two weeks notice and leave.  Or if you're that pushed to the wall, you walk in to your boss's office and say, sorry, I can't handle this, I'm leaving.


On the other hand, if your field primarily involves making videos which are intended to go viral and get tons of hits, posting an "I quit" video which gets on the front page of Yahoo and ends up with hundreds of thousands of views (at the time I saw it) might be exactly the thing that gets you hired somewhere else  :P

I heard today that she isn't looking for another job in journalism.  She wants to break into comedy.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4566 on: October 01, 2013, 07:37:14 AM »
When PD snowflakes collide:

Mr 16 Years (from this post: http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=74341.msg2948446#msg2948446) has run face first into Little Miss Needy (from this post: http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=74341.msg3006519#msg3006519).

Yesterday I got to sit in one of the most uncomfortable team meetings ever. The last 15 minutes were tied up in a very tense conversation between Miss Needy (legitimately) asking why it was taking Mr 16Y so long to get his act together and get this darn project moving. Mr 16Y spent it accussing Miss Needy of not understanding how Mr 16Y works, what the necessary tasks are, and very nearly flat out stating that Miss Needy doesn't know how to do her job. It was all icy politeness and gritted teeth, but I suspect Miss Needy will be on Mr 16Y's  silent treatment naughty list, which is going to make this project all kinds of awesome.

The rest of the team spent the last 15 minutes of the meeting staring at their notepads or laptop screens and studiously ignoring the venomously polite argument going on.

Then my coworker with the female-dog-dar mentioned that Mr 16Y had grabbed Boss later that day to complain loud and long about having his proffessionalism insulted.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4567 on: October 01, 2013, 12:24:12 PM »
Oh...putting things out to bid...we spent the summer at our library without air conditioning.  Last year (as in last October) the nice people fixing our roof knocked some of the AC hookups (or something...no one is clear on what was broken) and then a well placed lightning bolt took care of some others.

Keep in mind our library board knew about this in October of 2012...but decided they had all winter to decide what to do. 

They put the AC repairs out to bid sometime in May.  Supposedly the winning bid came in in June or July.  No repairs were done and it cost five figures to not get the work done.

We have sweltered for months in clothing soaked with sweat.  Of the several water coolers in the building, only one was doing us much good.  Around the end of August, they rented portable AC machines which took the entire month to FINALLY cool down the staff offices. 

Staff has been sick from the heat, we fall asleep because of the heat (honestly, some days it feels as if we are all in a library version of "The Langoliers" as we cannot keep our eyes open thanks to the lack of oxygen) and tomorrow marks almost an entire year without AC.

We're taking bets on when this very expensive AC is going to be installed.  I am guessing the end of January.  Then they will run it for a month to make sure it works properly.  Of course, it won't make a difference as I just heard from maintenance that we will need to replace the boiler soon as well.

They wonder why we are cranky.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4569 on: October 01, 2013, 01:05:54 PM »
^^^  That link just took me back to her original video.  :(

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4570 on: October 01, 2013, 01:08:14 PM »
^^^  That link just took me back to her original video.  :(

Scroll down - the response video is at the end of the article.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4571 on: October 01, 2013, 01:11:39 PM »
I went and googled for the video instead of scrolling.  *facepalm*

Here's the link though: http://youtu.be/1ukGrwL4ky4

I'm still on Marina's side and less on the company, even with the response video.  :)



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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4572 on: October 01, 2013, 01:12:18 PM »
^^^  That link just took me back to her original video.  :(

Scroll down - the response video is at the end of the article.

Ah ha!   ;D

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4573 on: October 01, 2013, 01:56:51 PM »
I know the feeling.  Mr. Thipu was a government employee.  Although the service for which he worked generated a substantial profit for the state, it was always under great pressure to cut back.  The annual picnic had to go.   

It didn't help that the directors of the service were appointed by the Governor so top management changed every four years.

I think it's also unfortunate that many of the fifth estate sometimes jump the gun and accuse government workers of not doing things properly, when the real problem is that the reporter doesn't understand what it is that is being done
::) Like the venerable $600 toilet seat and the $200 hammers.  If your government office needs hammers, you can't take $20 out of petty cash and go buy a couple at Home Depot or Sears.  No, you have to put out a call for your suppliers to bid on.  And if the lowest bid comes in at $200 per hammer, then that's how much your office will pay for them.

Here is where it gets tricky. I work for an organization that is part of the state government. The state decided where and what we can buy as far as anything beyond basic office supplies. Every once in a while, organization decrees we can no longer order from Y supplier, we must switch to Z. This can lead to big problems, when something supplied is only available from Y.

Also, no petty cash fund exists.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4574 on: October 01, 2013, 09:43:09 PM »
I know the feeling.  Mr. Thipu was a government employee.  Although the service for which he worked generated a substantial profit for the state, it was always under great pressure to cut back.  The annual picnic had to go.   

It didn't help that the directors of the service were appointed by the Governor so top management changed every four years.

I think it's also unfortunate that many of the fifth estate sometimes jump the gun and accuse government workers of not doing things properly, when the real problem is that the reporter doesn't understand what it is that is being done
::) Like the venerable $600 toilet seat and the $200 hammers.  If your government office needs hammers, you can't take $20 out of petty cash and go buy a couple at Home Depot or Sears.  No, you have to put out a call for your suppliers to bid on.  And if the lowest bid comes in at $200 per hammer, then that's how much your office will pay for them.

^That drives me mad at work, too. Stuff that I could pick up down the road for $3 has to go through an 'approved' supplier that charges $5 and so on up the line. Then when the press quite rightly takes offense at this waste of taxpayer dollars they blame the workers instead of the stupid bureaucratic system. All the while we're standing there saying "We know this is stupid! What are you looking at us for!"

This sooo much.  I can't just get a purchase order and get notebooks on sale for .17 at wally world, no we have to use the "approved vendor" who charges $2.75 for a single 70 sheet one subject notebook.  This kills me.
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