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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4635 on: October 15, 2013, 08:56:55 PM »
I know that the Australian show is just called Border Security and it's got some *great* stories on there - and the things that people try and get past Australian Customs and Immigration are jaw-dropping at times. Google should be able to point you to online viewable episodes and I think there was a US version made.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4636 on: October 15, 2013, 09:05:52 PM »
I know that the Australian show is just called Border Security and it's got some *great* stories on there - and the things that people try and get past Australian Customs and Immigration are jaw-dropping at times. Google should be able to point you to online viewable episodes and I think there was a US version made.
I know.  There are stories out there about people who try to smuggle endangered animals in their trousers and the like.  How does one sit comfortably on the plane with cockatoos or tortoises in one's underwear?  Even if they are sedated....
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4637 on: October 15, 2013, 10:04:03 PM »
...   How does one sit comfortably on the plane with cockatoos or tortoises in one's underwear?  Even if they are sedated....

Which ones?  The cockatoos and tortoises or the passengers stowing them?  ;D

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4638 on: October 15, 2013, 10:23:01 PM »
Which show is this?  I don't watch much TV, but I'm curious enough to track down an episode or two :)

It's called "Border Security" and this one is based in Canada.
I know there are a couple of similar ones based in the US - usually focused on a particular element of law enforcement.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4639 on: October 16, 2013, 12:49:04 AM »
There's also Airport Security which is based in the UK. Mostly they try and snuggle cigarettes.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4640 on: October 16, 2013, 01:14:19 AM »
There's also Airport Security which is based in the UK. Mostly they try and snuggle cigarettes.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4641 on: October 16, 2013, 01:51:49 AM »
Which show is this?  I don't watch much TV, but I'm curious enough to track down an episode or two :)

It's called "Border Security" and this one is based in Canada.
I know there are a couple of similar ones based in the US - usually focused on a particular element of law enforcement.

Okay, for anyone else interested, this show is indeed on YouTube and I've just watched the first several episodes in a row.  It's really fascinating  ;D  There's actually a computer game called "Papers Please" (you can get it on Steam, those of you who do computer gaming) and it made me think of that.  In "Papers Please" you're a border guard in a soviet-like county and you're examining people's passports - it's surprisingly addictive for such a simple game!  But I bet the interesting parts of the game pretty closely mirror the interesting parts of an actual customs job, based on what I see on the show - probably 95% boredom and then 5% "Dude, I just found $500,000 worth of cocaine!"

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4642 on: October 16, 2013, 04:18:10 AM »
Potential PD - I keep a card with this history with me - and I had given them the information. They still gave me a medication that should be a sedative but sends me cartwheeling into orbit. Sis showed up just in time to stop them from giving me another medication with a similar  history of reactions.

This is what results in what (at my hospital, anyway) is called an "incident report" (errors and near-misses that were avoidable).  They try not to make these PD cases as staff is encouraged to report and learn from these issues.  However, repeated issues of this nature (like from the same area or individual) can (and have) resulted in PD.

Fortunately, as long as I've been hearing about these IRs (shorthand for "incident report"), we haven't had the errors be fatal yet (so for the past 2.5 years I've been attending the meetings where these IRs are mentioned).

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« Reply #4643 on: October 16, 2013, 04:22:44 AM »
I wish my manager would stop letting my coworker get away with, well, not hardly doing anything.  She made a joke about "What would you guys do without me here?" and I couldn't help but think "The same thing we do with you here - since you don't really do much of the work."  I couldn't really come up with a sincere and nice response...I swear she must be blackmailing the management to still have her job.

I'd find it difficult not to answer this way and let the chips fall where they may (basically, to answer, should she ask what that meant -- "Our workload doesn't change whether or not you're here").

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4644 on: October 16, 2013, 04:33:52 AM »
There's actually a computer game called "Papers Please" (you can get it on Steam, those of you who do computer gaming) and it made me think of that.  In "Papers Please" you're a border guard in a soviet-like county and you're examining people's passports - it's surprisingly addictive for such a simple game!  But I bet the interesting parts of the game pretty closely mirror the interesting parts of an actual customs job, based on what I see on the show - probably 95% boredom and then 5% "Dude, I just found $500,000 worth of cocaine!"

Papers, Please is amazing despite the apparently dull premise and I highly recommend everyone to give it a go!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4645 on: October 16, 2013, 11:10:03 AM »
I wish my manager would stop letting my coworker get away with, well, not hardly doing anything.  She made a joke about "What would you guys do without me here?" and I couldn't help but think "The same thing we do with you here - since you don't really do much of the work."  I couldn't really come up with a sincere and nice response...I swear she must be blackmailing the management to still have her job.

I'd find it difficult not to answer this way and let the chips fall where they may (basically, to answer, should she ask what that meant -- "Our workload doesn't change whether or not you're here").

Unfortunately, my supervisors weren't in hearing range, so it wouldn't have done anything but start (another) argument.  She does as little as possible, and does most of that badly.  Unfortunately, simple lack of competence is not enough to get her fired, and we're pretty sure she's got dirt on management that leaves them reluctant to insist that she do anything.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4646 on: October 16, 2013, 01:34:56 PM »
Speaking of government employees, my father has a coworker who might not be trying to commit PD, but it sure looks odd.

Dad works for Large Government Organization, with a union. Said LGO and union have a VERY generous leave policy. As in, Dad has only been there for eight years and already has six or seven weeks of leave (sick and vacation) he can take every year. I can only imagine what the lifers have. Also, you can roll it over from year to year without issue, and can cash out up to six weeks when you retire as a nice going away present. Like I said, very generous.

Dad has a coworker who has been with the LGO for years longer than Dad. And this coworker uses up all of his sick and vacation time Every Single Year. Okay, that in and of itself isnít so bad. Itís his time, he can do with it what he will. But then he also take a few weeks of unpaid leave. To do things like a Bible camp with his children Ė a vacation, or at least something that can be accounted for a while in advance. This year, he has to have surgery. Itís September, heís already used up all his time. So instead of putting in for that unpaid leave like usual, he asks other employees to donate their time, b/c, you know, this was so unexpected (knee surgery, I think), and he canít handle this much time unpaid.

Dad declined donating time.

Update on this gem.

He's off for his surgery. People have donated time to him so he can continue to be paid. And what does he post to Facebook? How he's going on vacation. I'm sure the union will do nothing.

(I think this might irk dad even more than most b/c he specifically avoided going Out of State with Mom while he was out after knee surgery, not b/c he was physically unable, but b/c he was on workerís comp and didnít want to temp a fraud suit.)

Personally I would demand my donated time back! This will sour everyone on donating ever again and will punish those who truly need the help.

If that happened at my hospital, I think the person would be reported to HR and investigated (and, possibly, not permitted to use the leave donation program again without documented proof of need).

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4647 on: October 16, 2013, 01:45:58 PM »
Snooks,

It almost sounds like she doesn't want "her little girls" to grow up and leave the nest.  I've met parents like this.  Heck, my beloved BIL would prefer that his daughter's not leave his home until they marry.  The oldest is in her early 30s and the youngest is in her late 20s.  He doesn't charge them anything for room and board, provides cars with insurance to them at no cost (he even pays for the gas), etc.  Plus, he doesn't try to control them with the purse strings, so he's likely to get his wish.  They are smart girls; Why would they leave such a cozy nest?  I can't imagine why a scout leader would not want her scouts to move up to the next level.  Doesn't she have more young girls coming in?  Does she like the older girls more?  How can she lead both her current group of young girls AND an older group of "helpers"?  Does she have no other commitments in her life?  Or is she just an exceedingly controlling person?  If so, I would think the older girls would be happy to move up to the next level with increased independence appropriate to that age group.

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I've met a woman who finally moved out of the family home and got a job AFTER her father died (older parents when they had an only child, I think).  Never seriously dated, from what she's said.  She was in her late thirties or early forties when Daddy passed away...no job, no schooling since high school, and no experience in running her own life. 

Makes you want to go back in time and shake some sense into her parents...or encourage her to step out on her own twenty-odd years earlier...

I have a very SS aunt who is in her early- to mid-60s.  She's married, has multiple middle-aged married kids (who live on their own) and multiple grandchildren.  My aunt has been depending upon my grandmother financially up until my grandmother died two years ago.  In fact, since she's controlling the estate (different country), there's a good chance she's still siphoning off grandma's finances (big family so all the money isn't meant for my aunt).  Aunt and Uncle have always lived a lifestyle they could not afford so she's always run to "Mommy" for financial assistance.  Grandma, big heart that she has, has always helped her out.  Don't know what Aunt's going to do once the money runs out since I know no one else in the family is going to help her (she's a horrible, entitled person)...well, maybe her one son who is even worse than her and who she has enabled his whole life will help her (doubtful since he's an SS also).  Don't know where this comes from because none of the rest of her many MANY siblings are like this (her other kids aren't like this either).

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4648 on: October 16, 2013, 02:33:19 PM »
I wish my manager would stop letting my coworker get away with, well, not hardly doing anything.  She made a joke about "What would you guys do without me here?" and I couldn't help but think "The same thing we do with you here - since you don't really do much of the work."  I couldn't really come up with a sincere and nice response...I swear she must be blackmailing the management to still have her job.

I'd find it difficult not to answer this way and let the chips fall where they may (basically, to answer, should she ask what that meant -- "Our workload doesn't change whether or not you're here").

Unfortunately, my supervisors weren't in hearing range, so it wouldn't have done anything but start (another) argument.  She does as little as possible, and does most of that badly.  Unfortunately, simple lack of competence is not enough to get her fired, and we're pretty sure she's got dirt on management that leaves them reluctant to insist that she do anything.

There was a Not Always Working incident where a lousy waitress was the daughter of the restaurant's owner - your work shirking co-irker might not be the one with "dirt" on management - she could be related to a former employee or ex-lover with enough dirt to make them think twice about firing her, though.

I did learn that the waitress sleeping with dating the manager didn't get talked to for not taking glasses to a table with a pitcher of soda & getting the pizza to us after it got really cold - because I (off duty waitress) got called to the phone and lambasted for yelling at her. 

#1 - I hadn't said a thing to her other than "pitcher of Coke & three glasses" while the guys picked the pizza.  But I caught heck for what they said to her...

#2 - I got fired when I came in the next day for my next work shift (she was giving me both the evil eye and a grin that was enough to make me wonder what was coming to bite me & where).

#3 - I had told the guys that I did NOT want to eat pizza - I worked there and I was tired of Italian.  I wanted "something else" - but they wanted pizza & it was after lunch & before dinner, so the place would be quiet enough to visit. 

I didn't know it was PD to go to work and eat when a shirker was there and didn't want to WORK because, apparently, I was supposed to turn in the order, get our drinks, and pick up the pizza when it was done MYSELF instead of interrupting her flirting with the new cook (manager wasn't there that shift). 

I didn't eat at that location again for about five or six years...living in another state did help make it easier to avoid - but the ILs lived close to that Pizza Hut.  Fortunately, they preferred Shakey's Pizza Place!
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4649 on: October 16, 2013, 04:26:43 PM »
I wish my manager would stop letting my coworker get away with, well, not hardly doing anything.  She made a joke about "What would you guys do without me here?" and I couldn't help but think "The same thing we do with you here - since you don't really do much of the work."  I couldn't really come up with a sincere and nice response...I swear she must be blackmailing the management to still have her job.

I'd find it difficult not to answer this way and let the chips fall where they may (basically, to answer, should she ask what that meant -- "Our workload doesn't change whether or not you're here").

Unfortunately, my supervisors weren't in hearing range, so it wouldn't have done anything but start (another) argument.  She does as little as possible, and does most of that badly.  Unfortunately, simple lack of competence is not enough to get her fired, and we're pretty sure she's got dirt on management that leaves them reluctant to insist that she do anything.

There was a Not Always Working incident where a lousy waitress was the daughter of the restaurant's owner - your work shirking co-irker might not be the one with "dirt" on management - she could be related to a former employee or ex-lover with enough dirt to make them think twice about firing her, though.

I did learn that the waitress sleeping with dating the manager didn't get talked to for not taking glasses to a table with a pitcher of soda & getting the pizza to us after it got really cold - because I (off duty waitress) got called to the phone and lambasted for yelling at her. 

#1 - I hadn't said a thing to her other than "pitcher of Coke & three glasses" while the guys picked the pizza.  But I caught heck for what they said to her...

#2 - I got fired when I came in the next day for my next work shift (she was giving me both the evil eye and a grin that was enough to make me wonder what was coming to bite me & where).

#3 - I had told the guys that I did NOT want to eat pizza - I worked there and I was tired of Italian.  I wanted "something else" - but they wanted pizza & it was after lunch & before dinner, so the place would be quiet enough to visit. 

I didn't know it was PD to go to work and eat when a shirker was there and didn't want to WORK because, apparently, I was supposed to turn in the order, get our drinks, and pick up the pizza when it was done MYSELF instead of interrupting her flirting with the new cook (manager wasn't there that shift). 

I didn't eat at that location again for about five or six years...living in another state did help make it easier to avoid - but the ILs lived close to that Pizza Hut.  Fortunately, they preferred Shakey's Pizza Place!

I know for a fact that she's not related to anyone that works there, and I doubt she's playing scrabble with anyone in a management position there - however, I do know she has some, uh, interesting information, about a manager in another department's personal life because she told me.  It's not inconceivable that she has similar interesting information about people who are in a position to do something about her work ethic.