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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5280 on: February 13, 2014, 03:32:58 PM »

OurBoss is now enforcing draconian process requirements on Mr16Y with what almost feels like something close to spitefulness.

"You missed that particular deadline by 3 hours. Declined. Resubmit."


It sounds as though Mr16Y is on a formal performance improvement plan.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5281 on: February 13, 2014, 03:50:23 PM »

OurBoss is now enforcing draconian process requirements on Mr16Y with what almost feels like something close to spitefulness.

"You missed that particular deadline by 3 hours. Declined. Resubmit."


It sounds as though Mr16Y is on a formal performance improvement plan.

Sounds that way to me, too...and about time, if you ask me!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5282 on: February 13, 2014, 11:52:20 PM »

OurBoss is now enforcing draconian process requirements on Mr16Y with what almost feels like something close to spitefulness.

"You missed that particular deadline by 3 hours. Declined. Resubmit."


It sounds as though Mr16Y is on a formal performance improvement plan.

Sounds that way to me, too...and about time, if you ask me!
I overheard Mr16Y chatting to two of his work buddies about "There eventually comes a time when you start to feel like you're stagnating". I don't know if that's a sign he's looking for another job, or he's trying to talk his two buddies into leaving (or both).

I'm not entirely sure what Mr16Y is actually working on right now. He refuses to work on one task after coming to a standstill with a certain boss about what needs to be done, and had other tasks taken away from him and given to another team member after he refused to make the extra change he was told to. I'm pretty sure not doing your job is grounds for some kind of action. How is this guy still working here?!  :(
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5283 on: February 14, 2014, 12:05:28 AM »

How is this guy still working here?!  :(


He has very good blackmail material?
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5284 on: February 14, 2014, 08:14:45 AM »

OurBoss is now enforcing draconian process requirements on Mr16Y with what almost feels like something close to spitefulness.

"You missed that particular deadline by 3 hours. Declined. Resubmit."


It sounds as though Mr16Y is on a formal performance improvement plan.

Sounds that way to me, too...and about time, if you ask me!
I overheard Mr16Y chatting to two of his work buddies about "There eventually comes a time when you start to feel like you're stagnating". I don't know if that's a sign he's looking for another job, or he's trying to talk his two buddies into leaving (or both).

I'm not entirely sure what Mr16Y is actually working on right now. He refuses to work on one task after coming to a standstill with a certain boss about what needs to be done, and had other tasks taken away from him and given to another team member after he refused to make the extra change he was told to. I'm pretty sure not doing your job is grounds for some kind of action. How is this guy still working here?!  :(

Like others have said, he's probably on a PIP and so the powers that be have to document everything until the prescribed time period is up

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5285 on: February 14, 2014, 12:16:08 PM »

How is this guy still working here?!  :(


He has very good blackmail material?
You would be surprised at how many managers will put up with absolutely anything to avoid firing a person.   We have one that hasn't done any meaningful work in years, but the manager feels sorry for her.  And I think she's figured out the bare minimum she needs to do.

Also, HR does not make it easy to let anyone go.    Honestly, I'm a manager and I'd rather just pray that they leave on their own.   

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5286 on: February 14, 2014, 12:26:37 PM »
In my previous position, we had one of these employees.  He was awful; his performance was so bad that customers explicitly stated that he was not to work on their accounts.  He had a terrible attitude, spread rumors and stirred up trouble wherever he could, and threatened to sue at every opportunity.  At least 2 managers tried to fire him, and were told by HR that the legal trouble he would stir up (he was in a protected class) was not worth the effort, since he was due for retirement in 2 years.  Last I heard, he was still there, a thorn in everyone's side.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5287 on: February 14, 2014, 01:50:03 PM »
I'm dealing with one of these right now.  When I was promoted to my position, I inherited a "worker" who has always been a problem.  Her previous manager retired and pulled me aside and said "Keep an eye on Sally, she is trouble.  I was always afraid to say anything about it because she has accused me and other of racism if we ever try to correct her."  Oh joy.

Year 1, I wrote an honest performance review.  Sally does the minimum necessary and take no responsibility for her errors.  I spent HOURS if not days fixing her work.  Her PR score meant she did not receive a raise.  She had a FIT!  Even though I was able to show proof of her poor work product, I was "picking on her because she was xxxx!  NO ONE had ever told her anything, or taught her how to do her job.  Her reviews before I took over were GREAT, so the problem MUST be with me because she did everything she was told."

Year 2, at the beginning of the year I spent a week retraining Sally and providing her with job aids and standards documents.  I provided her with feedback throughout the year.  Once again at PR time I have to give her low scores.  Her work was not meeting standards, she was difficult to work with (I had multiple complaints about attitude, excessive personal calls, refusing to do tasks by others - who were allowed to leverage her as necessary).  I had more documentation and once again, no raise.  She was given a formal warning to shape up...  I spent MORE time retraining her, providing more job aids, etc.  she spent her time finding new and clever ways to avoid work and cheat the system.

Year 3 (this year)...another bad PR, the worst yet because her attitude has seriously deteriorated.  My boss is sick of it too (she went into MY boss's office and told her that she wasn't managing her staff right!).

We call HR and request to terminate.  HR insists we have to give her ANOTHER chance.  So, she is now on a formal performance improvement plan.  Supposedly, I can fire her if she violates the terms. I'm not holding my breath. 

She was out for two weeks over the holiday and we had a temp who was amazing!  One hour of training with this temp and she managed to do twice the work with half the errors.  It really drilled home that Sally is unwilling or unable to do the work required of her. 

My boss says that Sally is the most stubborn, difficult, bully she has ever had to deal with in her 30 years in the work force.

I keep hoping that the failure to receive raises year after year and the increased scrutiny of her work by myself and upper management will drive her out.  But, she is like a barnacle, she has worked the system for years, only puts in a minimal effort and gets away with poor behavior without getting fired.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5288 on: February 14, 2014, 01:58:43 PM »
I forgot one situation that did work out beautifully.  An employee like your Sally...bad attitude, lack of work ethic, terrible performance.  HR says he needs a structured PIP before any action can be taken.  So my boss and I spend days planning an education program for him...all these on line and in person courses to train him on aspects of the job that he should have been able to perform before starting (basically, he lied about being able to do various things, or the level at which he was able to do them).  We called him in to show him the plan, which included education, then demonstration projects where he'd perform the tasks in a test environment, and finally production work with audited results.  He became irate, told us both we were incompetent <women> who were obviously miserable in our jobs and wanted to make everyone else miserable, and quit on the spot.  Yay!  Problem solved!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5289 on: February 14, 2014, 02:51:11 PM »
We had someone commit PD and their single action continues to snowball. They sent an email out that had a "personalized" link. So if I click the link, the site it goes to automatically pulls my information from our database, but if someone else clicks after me, they see my information.

Bad idea. I think she will be reassigned.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5290 on: February 14, 2014, 07:12:29 PM »
A new employee joined my department on Monday of this week. By Wednesday he had started to snap at us due to being stressed out. We hadn't given him much to do except for orientation-related stuff. The nasty attitude escalated yesterday, with him leaving at the end of the day without so much as a goodbye to his coworkers. He didn't show up today. We found out that he tendered his resignation to HR first thing this morning. Looks like we dodged a bullet.
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« Reply #5291 on: February 17, 2014, 04:05:22 PM »
Ooh, I have a coworker who will be committing PD in a few weeks! 

So I work for a government agency, and we have a strict code of conduct that we must follow.  We've all signed it, and even watched a few cheesy videos with examples of what *not* to do.  One aspect of this code is that we must not accept gifts, tips, or even holiday items from the lawyers.  Pretty basic. 

So what does Oblivious Coworker do?  "Hey, lawyer, will you sponsor my softball team this summer?"  Um wait WHAT?  Even the lawyer knows it's a no-no, and said as such to me ("Oh, we're saying one of his friends asked, so we don't get in trouble"), but I'm waiting until the shirts get printed up and this hits a fan or two.  Then I'll grab the popcorn. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5292 on: February 17, 2014, 04:14:46 PM »
Ooh, I have a coworker who will be committing PD in a few weeks! 

So I work for a government agency, and we have a strict code of conduct that we must follow.  We've all signed it, and even watched a few cheesy videos with examples of what *not* to do.  One aspect of this code is that we must not accept gifts, tips, or even holiday items from the lawyers.  Pretty basic. 

So what does Oblivious Coworker do?  "Hey, lawyer, will you sponsor my softball team this summer?"  Um wait WHAT?  Even the lawyer knows it's a no-no, and said as such to me ("Oh, we're saying one of his friends asked, so we don't get in trouble"), but I'm waiting until the shirts get printed up and this hits a fan or two.  Then I'll grab the popcorn.

Holy carp! I'm also a Fed, and, wow, my jaw just hit the ground. Oblivious Coworker is lucky if they only get fired. They make it quite clear in the briefings that that kind of thing could lead to Federal charges. That seems unlikely in this case, but how could anyone think that was a good idea?!?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5293 on: February 17, 2014, 04:27:42 PM »

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Holy carp! I'm also a Fed, and, wow, my jaw just hit the ground. Oblivious Coworker is lucky if they only get fired. They make it quite clear in the briefings that that kind of thing could lead to Federal charges. That seems unlikely in this case, but how could anyone think that was a good idea?!?
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Oh, I'm not a Fed.  It's county level, but still obvious as all get out that someone in my department should probably NOT be playing beer-league softball with the name of a sleazy Defense attorney on their back.  Oblivious Coworker is just that, oblivious.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5294 on: February 17, 2014, 07:21:17 PM »
We have a fairly new mid-level employee who just doesn't seem to grasp the concept that people in other departments have other obligations and that she needs to check with them before scheduling an event at which she needs their help. I very much enjoyed hearing a high-level employee explaining the concept to her.  ::)
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