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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5580 on: March 24, 2014, 07:46:38 PM »
Ooh ooh, my Oblivious Coworker is at it again!  I'd mentioned before that he asked Obnoxious Attorney to sponsor his softball team.  Well, today as we were joking about OA, he said, "Yeah, I've got to go to his office today to pick up the check for the team registration.  I hope he doesn't want to hang out!"  Yeah, me too buddy.  Me too.  I'm transferring to a different position in a few months where I won't be working so closely with him, thank goodness.

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« Reply #5581 on: March 24, 2014, 08:20:45 PM »
I'm trying to figure out who in my office is committing PD the fastest!  For candidates we have:

Annoying Coworker - has to be reminded every day to clock in and turn her phone's ringer off.  Has supposedly worked for major healthcare insurance companies in the past, but cannot figure out the shorthand for "diabetes type II" on a recent worksheet we got.  Her solution to everything is to laugh loudly and say, "Well, I'm learning!".  Until I stopped answering her, asked me the same question at least four times a day.

Know-It-All Coworker - picks fights with the boss almost every morning, then complains to all and sundry (including me) about how terrible her working conditions are.  Has taken to capturing me when I go to ask her a question and ranting on and on about the "pets" and "favorites" and "evil people" who all supposedly work at our office. 

Crazy Boss - shouts, pounds on desks and pokes people to make a point.  Bullies anyone around her.  Talks to people in an incredibly condescending tone.  Throws blame on the closest person, even if they had nothing to do with the issue (I got yelled at today for something that happened in November, when I wasn't even hired yet). 

I thought this would be a pretty good job when I took it in December.  I've started sending out applications again.  The atmosphere in that office is...I don't even know what to call it!

Updates on these three folks!

My Crazy Boss has apparently been talked to, because she's been much nicer and less bullying the past couple of weeks!  It's been a nice change, and if she continues in this vein, I could work with her quite easily!  I'm still waiting a little bit for the other shoe to drop, but hopefully the change lasts!

Know-It-All Coworker has gone on my "be very cautious of" list.  She had a meeting with the BigBoss, and told BigBoss that I was so unhappy with how I was being treated that I was looking for a new job.  KIA Coworker told me she "had to" tell BigBoss this, with some strange justification about how if I talked to BigBoss and "slipped", KIA Coworker would be fired?  Anyway, I told her off very strongly for doing that, and we're at the "How are your pets?  We might go on vacation this summer! I used to know someone who lived in that town!" level of talk. 

Annoying Coworker has been let go!  I found that out this morning, and it was hard to not say "Oh, great!" when I was told.  I have a new cubemate, and she's already much improved over Annoying Coworker.  Her phone doesn't go off repeatedly, she's pretty competent, and she's willing to answer questions if I get stumped!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5582 on: March 27, 2014, 09:43:49 AM »
I was visualizing a poster with sock puppets calling in sick for him.

MrSick - Sorry, boss, I'm home with a cold.
MrSick1 - Yes, he's really sick, I've told him he's not fit to come to work.
MrSick2 - Agreed. And it's contagious.
MrSick3 - Actually, it's probably not a cold. I think it's pneumonia. He should be in bed for at least the next couple of weeks.
MrSick - Aww, you guys!

Wouldn't they all be MrSock, MrSock1...  ;)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5583 on: March 28, 2014, 06:34:14 AM »
I was visualizing a poster with sock puppets calling in sick for him.

MrSick - Sorry, boss, I'm home with a cold.
MrSick1 - Yes, he's really sick, I've told him he's not fit to come to work.
MrSick2 - Agreed. And it's contagious.
MrSick3 - Actually, it's probably not a cold. I think it's pneumonia. He should be in bed for at least the next couple of weeks.
MrSick - Aww, you guys!

Wouldn't they all be MrSock, MrSock1...  ;)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5584 on: March 28, 2014, 11:48:32 AM »
Had an interesting one yesterday...

BG: I'm currently working as a freelancer. One of the things I've been recently hired to do is help a local business create a website and social media presence. The woman is a friend of the family, but we agreed to treat the work as it should be, as a deal worked out between an employer and freelancer.

So yesterday, we went to talk to some specialists about them creating the build of the website, whereas I would be providing the written content. My employer/friend:

  • Talked constantly over the experts she had asked to meet. She repeatedly asked them questions and then talked over their attempts to answer. I tried several times to get her to let them talk, I think I succeeded once.
  • Introduced me as "her friend's daughter", instead of as someone she was employing that she just happened to know outside of work, which I'm sure made us both look really professional.
  • When they gave us a ballpark figure of what they reckoned the site might cost, which was happily less than we'd expected, started to talk about how she'd been prepared to pay more and was quite happy to pay up to twice that if needed, while I desperately tried to stop her
  • Started telling them about how her last attempt to get a website built turned out to be something of a con artist, and she'd paid him money up front before getting anything at all in writing, as I again tried to stop her.

I'll be interested in seeing if the guys we met are still up for a business deal. It was a father and son team, with the father taking the lead, and he didn't seem best impressed.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5585 on: March 28, 2014, 02:20:39 PM »
Oh my!    That woman sounds like a complete winner.

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Introduced me as "her friend's daughter", instead of as someone she was employing that she just happened to know outside of work

Argh.  We hired a new guy for our I.T. department a couple of years ago, and the supervisor who was showing him around introduced me as "our Social Committee rep" - as if that's all I do.  (I'm a senior application developer; aka computer programmer, with 25 years' experience.)  The upshot was that the new guy was extremely condescending to me, all but patting me on the head as I tried to train him. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5586 on: April 02, 2014, 07:59:11 AM »
Last week, one of our managers brought in a bag of fresh bagels.  The moment that email was received that we could help ourselves, half the floor was lined up to get their bagel.  Of course, I waited til the line went away and by then all of the bagels had been picked over.  The Snowflakey thing: all of those in my department who got up left only a few people to man the phones and we got a large queue.  Apparently some people did not read the email VERY carefully to have a few at a time in line to ensure coverage.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5587 on: April 02, 2014, 08:41:51 PM »
My department just starting doing a recheck on everyone's driving license status before checking out a vehicle after one of our employees got pulled over in a company vehicle with a suspended license  :o  The other location of my department works the car checkout on an honor system where you just sign a book, because they need to do it so frequently, so the office manager over there has requested everyone's license effective immediately so she can do a check.  One of my coworkers over there has refused repeatedly to do so - it seems that he is aware that his license is suspended!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5588 on: April 02, 2014, 09:24:06 PM »
My department just starting doing a recheck on everyone's driving license status before checking out a vehicle after one of our employees got pulled over in a company vehicle with a suspended license  :o  The other location of my department works the car checkout on an honor system where you just sign a book, because they need to do it so frequently, so the office manager over there has requested everyone's license effective immediately so she can do a check.  One of my coworkers over there has refused repeatedly to do so - it seems that he is aware that his license is suspended!
FWIW, if you're in one of the states that has handy magnetic strips on the license, they can be used to clock things in and out.
Mr Dawbs has to swipe his every time he clocks in at work--it's the best way to be sure that everyone has valid licenses.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5589 on: April 02, 2014, 09:52:38 PM »
My department just starting doing a recheck on everyone's driving license status before checking out a vehicle after one of our employees got pulled over in a company vehicle with a suspended license  :o  The other location of my department works the car checkout on an honor system where you just sign a book, because they need to do it so frequently, so the office manager over there has requested everyone's license effective immediately so she can do a check.  One of my coworkers over there has refused repeatedly to do so - it seems that he is aware that his license is suspended!
FWIW, if you're in one of the states that has handy magnetic strips on the license, they can be used to clock things in and out.
Mr Dawbs has to swipe his every time he clocks in at work--it's the best way to be sure that everyone has valid licenses.

We only have about 30 or so people checking out the cars on a regular basis, so I doubt that the benefit of getting a system like that instead of doing it by hand is worth the expense.  We also don't clock in since most people are salaried, and they'd probably be pretty offended if they had to start punching a time clock!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5590 on: April 05, 2014, 01:56:12 PM »
We are hiring in my department area and will sometimes get candidates who also completed their student externships in our area, which can make or break them as far as being considered.  This PD's behavior during her externship "broke" her as far as EVER being considered for a position in our area.

The externships are competitive, and the schools with whom we are connected are told only to send their top student(s) to apply for the externship, for which they have to complete a timed calculations test, a skills test and undergo an interview to see if they'd be able to handle the externship.  Despite all this, we sometimes get bad apples (twice now in the 5+ years I've been there so it doesn't happen often).  Student was instructed multiple times by the staff training her to PUT AWAY HER CELL PHONE AND STOP TEXTING.  She wouldn't stop!  There were some other behavioral issues I was told (can't remember what they were at this time).  Really, who wants to hire someone who, just as a student, would jeopardize accuracy of processing a patient's medication order by fiddling around with her cell phone instead?

Anyway, Candidate's app came across my desk so I forwarded it to the appropriate parties.  I was told she would not be invited to interview for the issues I outlined previously so I processed her as "rejected," which means she disappears off the list of applicants and, I'm pretty sure, would not come up on our lists again.  Sometimes, you want to tell these students, "Do you really want to spend $10-15,000 for an education you will just throw away on stupid things like playing with your phone when the opportunity to advance yourself comes along?"  Yeah, she (or her parents) would've had to spend about that much money for her education at the vocational school, and it was far more important to her to spend her hard-earned externship texting, rather than paying any attention to what staff was trying to teach her.



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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5591 on: April 05, 2014, 10:05:50 PM »
Someone in my field was applying for work.  It's an artistic pursuit, VERY competitive and VERY subjective; it's important to be good at what you do, but it's equally important to be able to play nicely with others.  She was interviewing with the head honcho of one of THE major places to work at.

She didn't get the job, and emailed HH asking for feedback on her interview; what did she do that resulted in her not being chosen?  An unusual request, but not unreasonable.  He wrote back giving the requested feedback.

She wrote back a ranty and frankly insulting reply, saying he was TOTALLY missing the point of what the field was all about, and he should have TOTALLY chosen her because HER SKILLS ARE JUST THAT GOOD and REASONS!!!!!  She wasn't secretive about it - she was ringing around all sorts of people, reading the email out aver the phone and declaring her intention to send it.  Everyone told her not to.  She did.

HH was about as impressed as you'd expect.  It's a very small field, even globally, and people talk.  She just insulted the HH of the most prestigious "firm" in the world.  We're pretty confident she will never work in the field, anywhere.  Even the small semi-pro places locally don't want to touch her.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5592 on: April 05, 2014, 10:21:14 PM »
Wow, way to burn all your bridges. That kind of stunt will follow her forevermore, and the fact that she was repeatedly warned and did it anyway? Really, really dumb.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5593 on: April 06, 2014, 04:49:55 PM »
At my husband's work they hired a Junior developer.Now this company is a great place to work for. They frequently take workers out to dinner, pay for lunch, give good bonuses, and even lend money if needed.

So, Jr. developer is assigned to a project. Basically he wasted time until crunch time, when the project was due and his part was not done. He was advised he needed to stay late to make sure it is finished.Now in the company's defense if you work late one night, you are allowed to come in late the next day and noone blinks an eye.
Jr. developer agrees but at 6:pm he is not found anywhere he just up and left and told noone!

So DH pulls jd aside the next day explains he need to communicate then asks him "Are you committed to this project?" Jd looks DH straight in the eye shrugs his shoulders and says "Not really". Okaaay. Dh then asks him if he wants to be moved onto another project  or what he wants to do.JD says No, he wants to be on this project . Uhmm ok. DH is at a loss to do so he passes this along to CEO. CEO brings jd in the room and asks him the same question about being committed and JD says the same thing!

DH is predicted he won't be there long. They basically took the jd's tasks away from him and assigned him easy tasks.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5594 on: April 07, 2014, 07:31:03 PM »
One of the assistants at the small business I work at has committed full-on PD. She has only been employed for a few weeks, but has done numerous things to get fired:
- Start the gossip/trash talking on her first day
- Make the lower level assistant cry (she's a very sweet girl and did NOTHING to deserve such treatment)
- Show up in a grungy, ancient, cracked applique sweatshirt instead of professional dress then complain she's being singled out because another worker wore an (acceptable) collared shirt over her work shirt. A tidy fleece also would have been acceptable, but this looked more like something I wouldn't go to Walmart in
- Go ballistic when the boss gives a warning to all the new staff that theft will not be tolerated and will be prosecuted and accuse Boss of singling her out. I was at the meeting and NO ONE was singled out. The warning was given due to previous problems.
- Instead of talking to Boss about how she communicates (writes on a board instead of direct...it's obnoxious, but nothing to get that fired up about) rant to every other staff member about how disrespectful it is
- Do her job halfway or not at all. Glare at me when requested she do some regular tasks within her job description.

And the topper: call Boss (owner) a certain body sphincter associated with donkeys to me while working on a Saturday morning, complain about Boss in a PA fashion in front of a client, and make several other disparaging remarks all in three hours. I was given permission to send her home, but I needed the help that day and I wasn't the one being called bad words.

She was supposed to come in after lunch today and Boss called her to say not to bother, then called me to apologize for having to deal with her which wasn't necessary at all.