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siamesecat2965

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2865 on: October 04, 2012, 07:30:09 PM »
Weeeell, sometimes if someone commits enough PD, there are results. I've posted about Useless, my one co-worker.  Who does nothing, and continually make the same errors, does the same sloppy work, and has been pretty much stripped of any responsibilities other than busy work.  He was let go today, FINALLY!  And I have to be honest and say I do not feel badly for him at all, as this was ALL of his own doing. He was told over and over what he wasn't doing correctly, etc. and a list of other stuff as long as my arm, and never did anything to change or improve. 

Rumor had it he was being protected by SOMEONE high up, as they "liked" him, but he was really a hindrance to all of us who had the (not!) pleasure of working with him. I guess they finally got all their ducks in a row, and he was shown the door.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2866 on: October 04, 2012, 07:34:04 PM »
Weeeell, sometimes if someone commits enough PD, there are results. I've posted about Useless, my one co-worker.  Who does nothing, and continually make the same errors, does the same sloppy work, and has been pretty much stripped of any responsibilities other than busy work.  He was let go today, FINALLY!  And I have to be honest and say I do not feel badly for him at all, as this was ALL of his own doing. He was told over and over what he wasn't doing correctly, etc. and a list of other stuff as long as my arm, and never did anything to change or improve. 

Rumor had it he was being protected by SOMEONE high up, as they "liked" him, but he was really a hindrance to all of us who had the (not!) pleasure of working with him. I guess they finally got all their ducks in a row, and he was shown the door.

Joy!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2867 on: October 04, 2012, 10:30:58 PM »
Weeeell, sometimes if someone commits enough PD, there are results. I've posted about Useless, my one co-worker.  Who does nothing, and continually make the same errors, does the same sloppy work, and has been pretty much stripped of any responsibilities other than busy work.  He was let go today, FINALLY!  And I have to be honest and say I do not feel badly for him at all, as this was ALL of his own doing. He was told over and over what he wasn't doing correctly, etc. and a list of other stuff as long as my arm, and never did anything to change or improve. 

Rumor had it he was being protected by SOMEONE high up, as they "liked" him, but he was really a hindrance to all of us who had the (not!) pleasure of working with him. I guess they finally got all their ducks in a row, and he was shown the door.

Queue the Hallelujah Chorus! :)

siamesecat2965

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2868 on: October 05, 2012, 10:25:07 AM »
Weeeell, sometimes if someone commits enough PD, there are results. I've posted about Useless, my one co-worker.  Who does nothing, and continually make the same errors, does the same sloppy work, and has been pretty much stripped of any responsibilities other than busy work.  He was let go today, FINALLY!  And I have to be honest and say I do not feel badly for him at all, as this was ALL of his own doing. He was told over and over what he wasn't doing correctly, etc. and a list of other stuff as long as my arm, and never did anything to change or improve. 

Rumor had it he was being protected by SOMEONE high up, as they "liked" him, but he was really a hindrance to all of us who had the (not!) pleasure of working with him. I guess they finally got all their ducks in a row, and he was shown the door.

Queue the Hallelujah Chorus! :)

Absolutely!  Now the question remains who gets to take over the piddly stuff (which still takes time) he had left? HOpefully not MY dept. but at any rate, he is gone.

Twik

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2869 on: October 17, 2012, 01:49:44 PM »
WARNING - may include emotional triggers.

Man who posted "glad girl is dead" loses job - says he's "sorry if he offended anyone". http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1272587--ontario-man-fired-from-job-over-comment-posted-on-memorial-page-to-amanda-todd

Oh, and he "feels a little regret and remorse". Just so you don't think he's a jerk or anything. I mean, he's got his feelings, right?
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Mental Magpie

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« Reply #2870 on: October 17, 2012, 02:00:13 PM »
WARNING - may include emotional triggers.

Man who posted "glad girl is dead" loses job - says he's "sorry if he offended anyone". http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1272587--ontario-man-fired-from-job-over-comment-posted-on-memorial-page-to-amanda-todd

Oh, and he "feels a little regret and remorse". Just so you don't think he's a jerk or anything. I mean, he's got his feelings, right?

I don't think he should have been fired for something he did on his own Facebook page.  Please don't get me wrong, I think what he did was reprehensible, even if he was "just curious"; but I don't think it had anything to do with his job.

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« Reply #2871 on: October 17, 2012, 02:04:32 PM »
Except if people know he works there, they don't want to get attached or be connected to his remarks.  I think that is a legitimate concern considering the ways things spread around the internet nowadays.

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« Reply #2872 on: October 17, 2012, 02:13:40 PM »
WARNING - may include emotional triggers.

Man who posted "glad girl is dead" loses job - says he's "sorry if he offended anyone". http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1272587--ontario-man-fired-from-job-over-comment-posted-on-memorial-page-to-amanda-todd

Oh, and he "feels a little regret and remorse". Just so you don't think he's a jerk or anything. I mean, he's got his feelings, right?

I don't think he should have been fired for something he did on his own Facebook page.  Please don't get me wrong, I think what he did was reprehensible, even if he was "just curious"; but I don't think it had anything to do with his job.

Except he didn't write it on his own Facebook page.  The article says that he wrote it on an online memorial page for her.

Twik

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2873 on: October 17, 2012, 02:23:41 PM »
I have a scrap of sympathy for him, in that he posted anonymously, and didn't expect it would connect to him or his employer.

That sympathy is swamped like an ant in a tidal wave with disgust at him being so vile as to post such things on a memorial forum, while hiding behind anonymity and "I just wanted to stir the pot".

I think people REALLY need to learn that "freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom from consequences". If your speech reveals you to be a vile, revolting person - well, yes, the rest of society may not want to be around you. Words, as well as actions, have consequences, even if you don't get jailed by the government for them.

I think the way he sort of shrugs and claims that he really feels badly for the family - while telling them he's rejoicing their daughter is dead - indicates a strange sort of disconnect some people have. It's as though they really don't see their words as having any meaning in the real world. Yes, he wanted to play troll, and have everyone mad at him (anonymously, of course). That they were angry because he was causing real pain, and behaving disgustingly, doesn't seem to occur to him. I presume (until he finds himself unemployable in the small town he lives in) he still thinks it was a rather witty joke.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2874 on: October 17, 2012, 02:32:46 PM »
More than one troll has claimed to be innocent of hostile intentions.  So often, they excuse themselves with "I just wanted to stir the pot" and "It was a social experiment."  They have little or no comprehension that there are real people out there, not just pixels on a screen.  Then the trolls get upset when the pot boils over, and the experimental guinea pigs show up at their doors. 

Mental Magpie

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2875 on: October 17, 2012, 02:40:31 PM »
WARNING - may include emotional triggers.

Man who posted "glad girl is dead" loses job - says he's "sorry if he offended anyone". http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1272587--ontario-man-fired-from-job-over-comment-posted-on-memorial-page-to-amanda-todd

Oh, and he "feels a little regret and remorse". Just so you don't think he's a jerk or anything. I mean, he's got his feelings, right?

I don't think he should have been fired for something he did on his own Facebook page.  Please don't get me wrong, I think what he did was reprehensible, even if he was "just curious"; but I don't think it had anything to do with his job.

Except he didn't write it on his own Facebook page.  The article says that he wrote it on an online memorial page for her.

I meant it as he used his own Facebook to do it, not the company's Facebook.


I think it was great someone outed him, because his actions should have consequences, but how it is at all related to his job is beyond me.  He didn't do it at work or on company time, so what does it have to do with his job?

NyaChan

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« Reply #2876 on: October 17, 2012, 02:42:18 PM »
I wouldn't trust him around my clients - he showed bad judgment and a lack of basic civility with that comment.  Not someone that I want to represent me.  If he'll do that in public to a grieving family just to see what would happen, what might he do while he is working?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2877 on: October 17, 2012, 02:42:51 PM »
Or the local Real Estate Agent who was caught doing something very naughty when he thought he was alone at an open home.

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« Reply #2878 on: October 17, 2012, 02:52:51 PM »
LOL! I've had managers who said "You can be replaced!"

I had an office manager years ago who told me I needed to improve my attitude and said if I worked in the main branch I would've been let go a long time prior (I had a great skillset that would've been difficult to find from anyone else at the rate they paid).  Granted, she might've been right about the attitude, but her threat really didn't help.  Anyway, the person (who I actually liked and did have the "can-do" attitude she was mandating from me) who she was comparing me to was a temp who got hired in the main branch shortly thereafter...and was fired a few months after that (guess that can-do attitude didn't work for him either).

Not too long later, Office Mgr hired a second assistant because the workload I was handling solo had greatly increased.  Office Mgr said she was hiring based on personality because anyone could be taught to do what I do but that it was hard to find a good personality.  I'm really not surprised that the brokers 2nd Admin supported were really frustrated because she didn't know how to do anything (a 20-something recent college graduate who didn't even know how to use the tab key in Word, rather than using the spacebar -- this was 2002 so not that long ago and not unreasonable that she should've known how to use a computer reasonably well).  2nd Admin didn't last very long either but, fortunately for her, she resigned of her own volition (nice girl but really had no business doing computer-based tasks).

FINALLY, glory came after 3-4 years of Office Mgr's snarking at me and unreasonable requests (like demanding in my annual evaluation that I get a local physician, rather than the one I was still seeing two hours away -- I pointed out and, I believe, wrote as a response in my evaluation, that I used my vacation time for my out-of-area medical appointments so she could not dictate to me how to use my vacation time...yeah, she backed down on that one, among others).  She didn't listen to her own advice so rather than get the licensing for herself requested by one of the major brokers in our office, he got her booted from our office as Office Mgr.  She was transferred to the main branch but, because she lost about 2/3 of what her job duties were (1/3 was event planning) but was still getting paid a huge salary, she got "laid off."  I wonder if anyone told her, "You can be replaced" (because she sure was and with someone who had more years of experience in event planning).

The best part?  After I resigned (on good terms -- I moved away), I still maintained contact with my old office (they were my job references).  I learned from the broker manager that it took three attempts to finally find someone who could sufficiently replace me (meaning they hired three different individuals before finally finding someone who could do what I did).

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2879 on: October 17, 2012, 04:13:53 PM »
I wouldn't trust him around my clients - he showed bad judgment and a lack of basic civility with that comment.  Not someone that I want to represent me.  If he'll do that in public to a grieving family just to see what would happen, what might he do while he is working?

That's it. If I were an employer, I would think, "This person can be viciously cruel and doesn't seem to have any real regrets for it. Even if my customers don't find out he works here, and show up with tar and feathers, do I really want someone with this sort of behaviour working for me?"

(In fact, one wonders if he'd been disliked in the workplace already. If he were a well-loved staff member, perhaps he would have been forgiven more readily. I can't imagine someone with this sense of humour (loosely termed) being fun to work with.)

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