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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2970 on: November 12, 2012, 12:10:13 AM »
He'd be in a pile of black suits & sunglasses, and the POTUS would be half a mile away in nothing flat.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2971 on: November 12, 2012, 03:22:21 AM »

Do they? Can they really not just say "Obviously a whack job" and leave it at that? Still, I come from a country where the only Prime Minister to die in office did so while having a swim at the beach  ::)

This isn't true unfortunately.

Other PMs to die in office were:
Joseph Lyons (1939) (Heart Attack)
John Curtin (1945) (Heart Disease, died in the Lodge)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2972 on: November 12, 2012, 05:34:56 AM »

Do they? Can they really not just say "Obviously a whack job" and leave it at that? Still, I come from a country where the only Prime Minister to die in office did so while having a swim at the beach  ::)

This isn't true unfortunately.

Other PMs to die in office were:
Joseph Lyons (1939) (Heart Attack)
John Curtin (1945) (Heart Disease, died in the Lodge)

And get a swimming pool named after him. Lol.  ;D
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2973 on: November 12, 2012, 06:56:39 AM »
Back to PD:

At the Golden Arches many years, knew of many workers who rather stand around and talk compared to work.  It was mainly the teenaged workers, and I admit back then I did tell them off sometimes even if it wasn't my job to do so.  I was never pulled aside by a boss for what I did, and I am sure they would have told me off too.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2974 on: November 12, 2012, 07:19:20 AM »
My middle daughter may have encountered some PD over the course of the last few months.  It came to a head yesterday. 

She and her younger sister participate in a local children's theater group.  Middle daughter, Gretchen, has now "aged out", but they encourage the older kids to continue to be involved by running lighting, learning assistant directing, etc.  For the fall show this year they had four applicants for internships, Gretchen being one of them.  It's an inclusive program so all four girls were "hired" and given discrete tasks.  These are all teenage girls we're talking about.

By the time we were halfway through it was clear to Gretchen that the other girls were dead set on excluding her from group decisions.  They all go to school together, and were getting together there to split up fun tasks and assign my daughter the crap work.  They also all three tried out for the school play, and dropped the ball on some of their responsibilities as a result.  She was frustrated, but I advised her that if she just continued to do her job well and pick up any slack when asked that it would pay off for her.

Sure enough, all season long they dumped crap jobs on her, which she finished on time and did them well.  Opening night was Friday and the other girls had *not* completed their tasks.  There is a long list of egregious behaviors during the weekend shows and cast party that were extraordinary, to the point that even my clueless dad pointed out that it really looked like one kid was doing all of the work.

Well, the joke is going to be on them because the way the program works is the board members decide how it's going to run and who will be hired, and I heard from multiple board members how impressed they were with my daughter and then long rants about the other girls.  I managed to keep my mouth shut and just say thank you to any compliments, but those girls are *not* going to be asked back next year.  And they all think they are guaranteed positions.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2975 on: November 12, 2012, 08:37:36 AM »
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Do they? Can they really not just say "Obviously a whack job" and leave it at that?
They have to look into it enough to verify that it's just someone mouthing off (which is protected speech under the First Amendment to the US constitution), not someone actually planning or inciting something. Might not take too long ot investigate, but still takes resources.

"Protected speech" applies to the government restricting what people can say. A private employer can indeed proclaim "you do not reflect our company's values. Goodbye."
There's also the added complication of "well, she was just spouting off, but now that she's been fired, she's decided to be a more active *insert adjective and noun of choice here*"

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2976 on: November 12, 2012, 08:47:57 AM »
There's also the added complication of "well, she was just spouting off, but now that she's been fired, she's decided to be a more active *insert adjective and noun of choice here*"

There may also be a concern about whether this was her being a spontaneous idiot, or whether she's got contacts with people who are feeding her this stuff, and may themselves be more dangerous.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2977 on: November 12, 2012, 08:38:35 PM »

Do they? Can they really not just say "Obviously a whack job" and leave it at that? Still, I come from a country where the only Prime Minister to die in office did so while having a swim at the beach  ::)

This isn't true unfortunately.

Other PMs to die in office were:
Joseph Lyons (1939) (Heart Attack)
John Curtin (1945) (Heart Disease, died in the Lodge)

And get a swimming pool named after him. Lol.  ;D
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2978 on: November 12, 2012, 11:22:06 PM »
This guy sent out false stories via Twitter regarding things happening during Sandy.   He lost his job as a campaign manager.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/superstorm-sandy-rumors-cost-congressional-campaign-manager-job-140408935--abc-news-politics.html

I don't understand why people lie like that.  About things that can be checked out.  Why put out that kind of effort on lies???   :(  Have they NO self worth that they must say things like that to get 'better' responses?  Do they not think anybody will check on their lies?  Do they never think ahead to what it will be like for them once caught out in lies?  Immediate diminution of future job prospects?
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2979 on: November 13, 2012, 02:28:20 PM »
This is less professional Darwinism than a tragic fall: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-14/mcafee-says-framed-for-murder-in-belize/4370350.

We can't know if he's guilty yet, of course, but it sounds like he's been in a slow downward spiral for some time, mentally.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2980 on: November 13, 2012, 03:53:22 PM »
Whew - made it through the whole thread and feel I can now contribute a be-you-ti-ful example of both professional and (almost) personal Darwinism.

When I was sixteen/seventeen, I worked in a taxi office as Book-and-Dispatch - I answered the phones, took bookings and dispatched taxis. Generally speaking, my shifts were Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon (both until 7pm) and Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday evenings 6pm to 9pm.

So. It's a Saturday. It's the second last Saturday before Christmas and we are BUSY. We normally only had one driver on for a Saturday afternoon, but it was busy enough that at 2pm I dug the boss out of bed (the office was in a converted house, so it's not quite as weird as it sounds!) and we were running two cars all afternoon (K and R).

That night we were due to have three drivers on: B, N and S.

At 6:30pm B arrived and traded off with K.

At 6:45pm N came on shift.

At 7pm (when I was due to go), R arrives back at the office to inquire where S was.

He was...less than impressed to learn that I'd so far seen neither hide nor hair of S. However, we had a three-car pick up at 7:30pm, so there was no choice but for him to stay out on the road and for me to stay in the office manning the phones. (And try to get hold of S to find out what he was playing at!)

I'd already rung my mother (who normally picked me up) and warned her I wasn't likely to be ready to go for at least an hour, so that was okay. However, by the time R got back from the three-car job, there was STILL no sign of S (he was now an hour late) and with a very busy night ahead, R asked me if I could stay on and work through to 1am.

So that's what we did. Mum ran me down some dinner (remember, I was supposed to be home for that!) and I worked until 2amish, before being taken home by B (who happened to be my father!).

So, to recap: this is a fairly impressive case of PD - no show and no call as a self-employed taxi driver on a Saturday night.

It gets better.

The following Tuesday, I turned up for my shift, fully expecting to hear that S has been canned, only to discover that S is actually working and has been since 4pm! I asked the day office guy about it and discover that R is on his way in. Turns out this is the first time since the previous week that anyone's seen S.

So off goes the day guy, I settle in and no more than ten minutes later, R arrives. He asks me to call S into the office, which I do. S pulls up outside, walks into the office, sees R and bolts straight out of the office and dives straight across an extremely busy main road at the height of rush hour.

So, to recap: impressive PD followed up by attempted personal darwinism by running straight out into busy traffic to avoid the well deserved telling off for the impressive PD.

Oh, and did I mention? That fateful Saturday happened to have been my seventeenth birthday...

Yeah. Not my best birthday ever, but BOY was it memorable!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2981 on: November 13, 2012, 09:21:28 PM »
From one of our clients, we are at work watching what may be shaping up to be a nice little case of professional Darwinism.

So, we have this big client.  We contract with Big Client on both their merchant and customer sides, the customer side consisting of Products A, B, and C.  There is a relatively new person handling Product C at their company.  And she's driving my co-workers absolutely bugnuts.

*  She's rude, demanding, and expects her every whim to be catered to.  When we don't do said catering, she throws a snitfit.

*  She asks the same questions, over and over, going in cycles through my co-worker, our team lead, another group's team lead, and our relationship manager.  Half of this is her trying to get the answer she wants rather than the answer she gets, the other half is because she never writes anything down because she's always calling us while she's driving.

*  It is, in fact, against Big Client's corporate policy to conduct business calls while driving.  Ever.

*  She has a very set, yet skewed, idea of how our office structure works.  Team Lead is other team lead's boss.  No?  They're peers?  Why is that?  And why must she always have to call into this ridiculous call queue?  She's never guaranteed to get the right person!  And sometimes they're not at their desk and she has to LEAVE MESSAGES!  Or worse, Someone Else handles her call!  Why can't we just have our receptionist handle these things (LOL!  Receptionist!  We're a cube farm!)

*  She's not our secretary, and thus she shouldn't have to bother with such things as knowing account numbers or any other identifying details that would allow us to, you know, help when she has an issue involving a particular customer.

*  Product C is really awesome, innit?  So why don't we just, say, stop marketing Products A and B?  Oh, customers using Product A aren't actually able to use Product C?  Well, we can either change the rules or just tell them that they don't matter.  What do you mean you won't do that?  Product C is alll that maaaattterrrs!

This isn't even some of the worst of it.  Team Lead and Coworker are showing visible signs of wanting to murder their phones every time she calls in.  I've been lucky enough to not have to deal with her much, yet, mostly by virtue of her not actually realizing that I work the program and thus know stuff. 

My time of bliss is probably running out.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2982 on: November 13, 2012, 10:03:26 PM »
From one of our clients, we are at work watching what may be shaping up to be a nice little case of professional Darwinism.

So, we have this big client.  We contract with Big Client on both their merchant and customer sides, the customer side consisting of Products A, B, and C.  There is a relatively new person handling Product C at their company.  And she's driving my co-workers absolutely bugnuts.

*  She's rude, demanding, and expects her every whim to be catered to.  When we don't do said catering, she throws a snitfit.

*  She asks the same questions, over and over, going in cycles through my co-worker, our team lead, another group's team lead, and our relationship manager.  Half of this is her trying to get the answer she wants rather than the answer she gets, the other half is because she never writes anything down because she's always calling us while she's driving.

*  It is, in fact, against Big Client's corporate policy to conduct business calls while driving.  Ever.

*  She has a very set, yet skewed, idea of how our office structure works.  Team Lead is other team lead's boss.  No?  They're peers?  Why is that?  And why must she always have to call into this ridiculous call queue?  She's never guaranteed to get the right person!  And sometimes they're not at their desk and she has to LEAVE MESSAGES!  Or worse, Someone Else handles her call!  Why can't we just have our receptionist handle these things (LOL!  Receptionist!  We're a cube farm!)

*  She's not our secretary, and thus she shouldn't have to bother with such things as knowing account numbers or any other identifying details that would allow us to, you know, help when she has an issue involving a particular customer.

*  Product C is really awesome, innit?  So why don't we just, say, stop marketing Products A and B?  Oh, customers using Product A aren't actually able to use Product C?  Well, we can either change the rules or just tell them that they don't matter.  What do you mean you won't do that?  Product C is alll that maaaattterrrs!

This isn't even some of the worst of it.  Team Lead and Coworker are showing visible signs of wanting to murder their phones every time she calls in.  I've been lucky enough to not have to deal with her much, yet, mostly by virtue of her not actually realizing that I work the program and thus know stuff. 

My time of bliss is probably running out.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2983 on: November 14, 2012, 12:07:36 PM »
I used to have a co-worker whom I'll call Jerk.    Jerk had virtually no social skills.  Right off the bat (i.e. when he was a new hire and should have been keeping his mouth shut and his ears open), he'd argue with people about the best way to get a task done - never mind that those people knew the job MUCH better than he did. 

My co-worker friend about threw a fit one Christmas, because she was on the same team as Jerk, and he was arguing left and right about how her idea to buy Big Boss a Christmas present was a terrible idea.  My friend and everyone else loved their boss and wanted to pool their money to get him something really nice, but for some reason Jerk kept throwing spanners in the works.   It turned out later that Big Boss had reprimanded him and was therefore not Jerk's favorite person, but why he couldn't have just said "I'll sit this one out, thanks" is anyone's guess.

He'd also call his wife daily and scream at her in Roumanian, which was vastly entertaining.

He was finally fired for being caught reading a book at his desk all day instead of working (after being warned repeatedly to stop doing that).

The kicker is that his last name was the same as mine, and it's a fairly uncommon name.  I got SO fed up with people asking "Are you and Jerk related?"  "NO!"

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #2984 on: November 14, 2012, 01:44:45 PM »
I'd been working for years in a specialzed department of a company, but they wanted a few of us to take a new-hire class to learn all aspects of the company.  I got partnered by a girl who kept trying to tell me how to work our computer system even though she knows I've been using that system for years. 

Class is treated as regular work days and our trainer reports back to each trainee's supervisor.  She was late many times and already in warning status even before her official first day in a permanent position. 

During lunch at a restaurant on our last day of class, she ordered dessert even though we were warned "no alcohol or dessert" because they are serving cake later at the worksite (they were not being cheap, tons of the higher-end food and nonalcoholic drinks were ordered). 

I don't know what happend later because I don't work with her, but one day a few weeks later, it dawned on me that I haven't seen her around and she was no longer on the email list.

At least she made it to finish the class unlike the guy who disappeared for days without a phone call and then showed up thinking he still had a job.