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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3000 on: November 15, 2012, 07:44:21 PM »
From what I've read a lot of first-time voters voted in this election.  That's a good thing, because people don't have a right to complain about the results if they could otherwise vote but just choose not to.
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However, after reading some posts on ehell, I have changed my opinion: People are entitled to their opinions, no matter how ill conceived they may seem to me.  Even if they don't vote, they still have the right to freedom of expression.

That said, I don't have to listen to them grumble.  I have freedom, too.  8)

I now think it is a good thing that people who speak forcefully against the issues and candidates that I support don't vote.  If I could talk all the idiots out of voting, then my vote counts more since it is a larger percentage of the whole. >:D

This is pretty much my philosophy.  "If you don't vote, you can complain if you want to.  I just won't take you seriously at all.  If you wanted something different, you would have done *something*."

I resent that. ;) I can't vote, but I should be able to complain! Of course, I'm Canadian so I won't be affected by US domestic policies anyway but still...

As a Canadian voter, I want to complain. If I hear anything else about Obama I'll scream! I wish Romney had won just because maybe the press wouldn't be reporting as much!

The opposite's likely truer.  "Why did Obama lose?" would be the bigbig question.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3001 on: November 15, 2012, 07:56:04 PM »
From what I've read a lot of first-time voters voted in this election.  That's a good thing, because people don't have a right to complain about the results if they could otherwise vote but just choose not to.

This is pretty much my philosophy.  "If you don't vote, you can complain if you want to.  I just won't take you seriously at all.  If you wanted something different, you would have done *something*."

I resent that. ;) I can't vote, but I should be able to complain! Of course, I'm Canadian so I won't be affected by US domestic policies anyway but still...
Trimmed the quote tree to focus on the bolded part, which addresses blue2000's comment.


Please stop with this line of comments about non-voters.

ETA: I meant this line of comments...

If you have a problem with how a thread is progressing, please report it and tell us why.

My apologies.  Often a nudge from another poster gets things back on track.  I will report it next time.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3002 on: November 15, 2012, 11:17:41 PM »
All right, that's it. The above posters have been gagged for continuing political discussions.

ETA: If there are any more political posts in this thread it will be locked. I'm sick of moderating on an issue that is well known to be off limits.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3003 on: November 16, 2012, 12:36:29 AM »
Thank you, Cass!
For in the fatness of these pursy times
Virtue itself of vice must pardon beg,
Yea, curb and woo for leave to do him good.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3004 on: November 16, 2012, 03:08:19 AM »
Getting back on topic, I think one of my co-workers is heading for a bit of Professional Darwinism!

She works as a waitress Thursday lunchtime, and Friday/Saturday/Sunday evenings. The evenings don't seem to be a problem for her, but every single Thursday for the past month, she's had some excuse why she couldn't come in. Car trouble, a sick dog, the flu, and a burst pipe in her house. Strangely, none of these things have been an issue the following evening.

She hasn't been reprimanded really yet, because the boss is a bit of a softie and he likes her, but I can't see it going on much longer without something happening.

However, on a lighter note, it has led to a lot of us musing on what she's doing with those extra four hours!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3005 on: November 16, 2012, 06:36:51 AM »
Getting back on topic, I think one of my co-workers is heading for a bit of Professional Darwinism!

She works as a waitress Thursday lunchtime, and Friday/Saturday/Sunday evenings. The evenings don't seem to be a problem for her, but every single Thursday for the past month, she's had some excuse why she couldn't come in. Car trouble, a sick dog, the flu, and a burst pipe in her house. Strangely, none of these things have been an issue the following evening.

She hasn't been reprimanded really yet, because the boss is a bit of a softie and he likes her, but I can't see it going on much longer without something happening.

However, on a lighter note, it has led to a lot of us musing on what she's doing with those extra four hours!

My guess is she's sleeping.  If she's used to working evenings, she may stay up late when she gets home, then sleeps later the next day.  Getting up for a lunchtime shift may be difficult, so she's calling off to sleep.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3006 on: November 16, 2012, 06:59:50 AM »
Getting back on topic, I think one of my co-workers is heading for a bit of Professional Darwinism!

She works as a waitress Thursday lunchtime, and Friday/Saturday/Sunday evenings. The evenings don't seem to be a problem for her, but every single Thursday for the past month, she's had some excuse why she couldn't come in. Car trouble, a sick dog, the flu, and a burst pipe in her house. Strangely, none of these things have been an issue the following evening.

She hasn't been reprimanded really yet, because the boss is a bit of a softie and he likes her, but I can't see it going on much longer without something happening.

However, on a lighter note, it has led to a lot of us musing on what she's doing with those extra four hours!

My guess is she's sleeping.  If she's used to working evenings, she may stay up late when she gets home, then sleeps later the next day.  Getting up for a lunchtime shift may be difficult, so she's calling off to sleep.

This has only been an issue for the last month though. She's been working there (with those shifts) for almost a year!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3007 on: November 16, 2012, 07:48:20 AM »
Getting back on topic, I think one of my co-workers is heading for a bit of Professional Darwinism!

She works as a waitress Thursday lunchtime, and Friday/Saturday/Sunday evenings. The evenings don't seem to be a problem for her, but every single Thursday for the past month, she's had some excuse why she couldn't come in. Car trouble, a sick dog, the flu, and a burst pipe in her house. Strangely, none of these things have been an issue the following evening.

She hasn't been reprimanded really yet, because the boss is a bit of a softie and he likes her, but I can't see it going on much longer without something happening.

However, on a lighter note, it has led to a lot of us musing on what she's doing with those extra four hours!

I had a coworker like that (I'm sure I posted about her hundreds of pages back, lol.) Her excuses started out normal and then just got more and more outrageous. "I can't come in today, my husband put racing tires on our car and it's supposed to snow and they don't have traction." (On your Subaru??) "I rescued a squirrel that was hit by a car and I'm at the vet now so I won't be in this afternoon." "My house is tilted so workers are coming today to un-tilt my house." Yeah, those were all actual excuses. My other coworkers had a game where we'd try to figure out what crazy excuse she'd come up with next.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3008 on: November 16, 2012, 10:37:45 AM »
Getting back on topic, I think one of my co-workers is heading for a bit of Professional Darwinism!

She works as a waitress Thursday lunchtime, and Friday/Saturday/Sunday evenings. The evenings don't seem to be a problem for her, but every single Thursday for the past month, she's had some excuse why she couldn't come in. Car trouble, a sick dog, the flu, and a burst pipe in her house. Strangely, none of these things have been an issue the following evening.

She hasn't been reprimanded really yet, because the boss is a bit of a softie and he likes her, but I can't see it going on much longer without something happening.

However, on a lighter note, it has led to a lot of us musing on what she's doing with those extra four hours!

My guess is she's sleeping.  If she's used to working evenings, she may stay up late when she gets home, then sleeps later the next day.  Getting up for a lunchtime shift may be difficult, so she's calling off to sleep.

My guess is that she doesn't feel she makes enough to come in.  Thursday lunch tips aren't anywhere near Friday/Saturday/Sunday night tips.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3009 on: November 16, 2012, 10:53:30 AM »
My guess is that she has picked up a second job and has been assigned conflicting shifts -- she is choosing the one most profitable for her. Many food servers I know work at other places to pick up extra shifts.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3010 on: November 16, 2012, 10:56:02 AM »
Getting back on topic, I think one of my co-workers is heading for a bit of Professional Darwinism!

She works as a waitress Thursday lunchtime, and Friday/Saturday/Sunday evenings. The evenings don't seem to be a problem for her, but every single Thursday for the past month, she's had some excuse why she couldn't come in. Car trouble, a sick dog, the flu, and a burst pipe in her house. Strangely, none of these things have been an issue the following evening.

She hasn't been reprimanded really yet, because the boss is a bit of a softie and he likes her, but I can't see it going on much longer without something happening.

However, on a lighter note, it has led to a lot of us musing on what she's doing with those extra four hours!

Maybe she's living with someone who has Thursdays off, or if she has children maybe her sitter can't work on Thursdays.

Why don't you think up a reason why you need to call her on a Thursday, and see how long before she answers, and what sort of background noises you hear?  Guess I'm a natural born snoop!

Just read LazyDaisy's post - I bet that is what has happened.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3011 on: November 16, 2012, 11:00:05 AM »
What I don't get is why she hasn't gone to management and said, 'Here's the deal.  I got a second job to make ends meet and I have to work there on Thursdays.  (Or:  my new boyfriend has asked me to watch his children during the day, including Thursdays.  Or whatever the reason Thursdays no longer work).  Is there any way we can adjust the schedule so I'm not working Thursday lunch hour?  I can work [these times], instead.

To just not show up and/or call in with increasingly implausible explanations is just dumb.  (And hence, PD.)
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3012 on: November 16, 2012, 11:07:47 AM »
What I don't get is why she hasn't gone to management and said, 'Here's the deal.  I got a second job to make ends meet and I have to work there on Thursdays.  (Or:  my new boyfriend has asked me to watch his children during the day, including Thursdays.  Or whatever the reason Thursdays no longer work).  Is there any way we can adjust the schedule so I'm not working Thursday lunch hour?  I can work [these times], instead.

To just not show up and/or call in with increasingly implausible explanations is just dumb.  (And hence, PD.)

I agree, that would be the reasonable thing to do. I don't know the employers policy regarding second jobs but I've had bosses that state right at hire that they will not allow an employee's second job to interfere with scheduling -- it's grounds for termination. Faithlessone's coworker may be stalling for time -- calling out repeatedly hasn't gotten her terminated (so far) but clueing her boss in that she has another job that she's giving preference to might.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3013 on: November 16, 2012, 04:23:05 PM »
Back when I was a contractor, I had a co-worker who worked pretty much whatever hours he felt like working.  In fairness, he was working a full eight-hour day - but if he decided to come in at 11:00 a.m. and work until 7:00 p.m., he figured that was fine.   The client didn't agree, and that was bad enough - but when he decided to bring his Xbox into the office and start playing a game at 2:00 p.m. (because, for him, THAT was lunchtime), they really objected.

Then his extra-curricular activities began.  Despite being newly married with a baby on the way, he because obsessed with a Gentlemen's Club that was close to the office, and he often went there after work.  Fine, except that he was always yelling around the office to see who wanted to join him, saying (very loudly) that he NEEEEEEEDED A LAAAAP DAAAAANCE!

He was laid off a few months later.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3014 on: November 18, 2012, 02:55:20 AM »
The mail topic on the Exchanges that Make Your Brain Hurt thread reminded me of something that I witnessed.

A few years ago, I had a problem where the mail would only be delivered or picked up a few days a week. Then I started getting a bunch of misdelivered mail, addressed to a bunch of different houses in my neighborhood and included magazines, bills and personal mail. I would put return to sender or forward to, but within a few weeks, that stopped being picked up. Finally, one day I marched into the post office demanding to see the highest ranking supervisor there. I explained everything then handed him 2 tote bags full of misdirected mail. He was appropriately horrified and called me back that afternoon to explain that the mailman for my neighborhood was spending most of his days playing hooky then rushing to deliver the mail every once in a while. Eventually he gave up on properly delivering the mail and wouldn't pick up the misdelivered stuff so nobody could figure out he wasn't doing his job. Not surprisingly the mailman got fired. The nice thing was that the supervisor periodically called me for the next few months to make sure that the new mail-person was working out.

The craziest thing to me is the fact that I'm the only one who apparently complained.