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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3210 on: January 04, 2013, 04:12:27 PM »
Why on earth would one start a fight over ketchup? Maybe it wasn't his idea of a good sandwich, but if the customer wants ketchup, and you have ketchup, why (at best) lose a customer over a couple of cents that are the company's, not yours, and (at worst) end up with jail time?  :o

As far as I know, Subway doesn't carry ketchup and never has. It might be one of the ones in a Wal-Mart, in which case, yeah, the customer could go buy his own. But that's a bizarre reason for either guy to suddenly go caveman on each other.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3211 on: January 04, 2013, 06:16:51 PM »
I suppose saying, 'Sorry, ketchup isn't one of the condiments we use' was just too unmanly? >:D

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3212 on: January 04, 2013, 07:47:27 PM »
Why on earth would one start a fight over ketchup? Maybe it wasn't his idea of a good sandwich, but if the customer wants ketchup, and you have ketchup, why (at best) lose a customer over a couple of cents that are the company's, not yours, and (at worst) end up with jail time?  :o

As far as I know, Subway doesn't carry ketchup and never has. It might be one of the ones in a Wal-Mart, in which case, yeah, the customer could go buy his own. But that's a bizarre reason for either guy to suddenly go caveman on each other.

It is-it was mentioned in the article.  Not that he should have to buy a bottle of ketchup. 
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3213 on: January 04, 2013, 08:08:41 PM »
Why on earth would one start a fight over ketchup? Maybe it wasn't his idea of a good sandwich, but if the customer wants ketchup, and you have ketchup, why (at best) lose a customer over a couple of cents that are the company's, not yours, and (at worst) end up with jail time?  :o

As far as I know, Subway doesn't carry ketchup and never has. It might be one of the ones in a Wal-Mart, in which case, yeah, the customer could go buy his own. But that's a bizarre reason for either guy to suddenly go caveman on each other.

It is-it was mentioned in the article.  Not that he should have to buy a bottle of ketchup.

If he wants ketchup and Subway doesn't provide it, then he does have to buy a bottle -- or get it some way on his own. The restaurant isn't obliged to provide every possible condiment.  The fact that they don't doesn't give the customer the right to get pissy about it and it certainly doesn't give the worker the right to make threats in retaliation.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3214 on: January 05, 2013, 03:02:49 AM »
Why on earth would one start a fight over ketchup? Maybe it wasn't his idea of a good sandwich, but if the customer wants ketchup, and you have ketchup, why (at best) lose a customer over a couple of cents that are the company's, not yours, and (at worst) end up with jail time?  :o

As far as I know, Subway doesn't carry ketchup and never has. It might be one of the ones in a Wal-Mart, in which case, yeah, the customer could go buy his own. But that's a bizarre reason for either guy to suddenly go caveman on each other.

It is-it was mentioned in the article.  Not that he should have to buy a bottle of ketchup.

What do you mean? Of course he should. The Subway is under no obligation to provide it for him.
 
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3215 on: January 05, 2013, 02:07:32 PM »
That was definitely a case where things went:
Normal (ish, because ordering ketchup on a philly isn't exactly standard)
Normal (Subway doesn't have ketchup)
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3216 on: January 05, 2013, 06:55:13 PM »
I'm not from Philly, but I do like ketchup on my hot subs. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3217 on: January 05, 2013, 07:12:35 PM »
For those of you who don't know, I'm a corrections officer (aka prison guard).  I cannot get into much detail in the thread, but I can tell you this:

A CO was using Google Maps to show addresses for an offender because, apparently, the offender wanted to see where his (inmate) daughter lived.

ETA: It was the inmate's daughter.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3218 on: January 05, 2013, 07:21:35 PM »
For those of you who don't know, I'm a corrections officer (aka prison guard).  I cannot get into much detail in the thread, but I can tell you this:

A CO was using Google Maps to show addresses for an offender because, apparently, the offender wanted to see where his daughter lived.

"his daughter" being "the CO's daughter" or "the offender's daughter"?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3219 on: January 05, 2013, 07:40:06 PM »
For those of you who don't know, I'm a corrections officer (aka prison guard).  I cannot get into much detail in the thread, but I can tell you this:

A CO was using Google Maps to show addresses for an offender because, apparently, the offender wanted to see where his daughter lived.

"his daughter" being "the CO's daughter" or "the offender's daughter"?

I would hope the CO wouldn't be showing an inmate pictures/maps of where the CO's family lived, but at this point I wouldn't put anything past anyone.

I assume the offending CO has been relieved of his duties or will be very soon. Especially as I am sure that he/she only has the inmate's word that the address they're looking for is actually the home of a family member and that this "alleged" daughter would want her father to have directions to her home. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3220 on: January 05, 2013, 07:46:30 PM »
For those of you who don't know, I'm a corrections officer (aka prison guard).  I cannot get into much detail in the thread, but I can tell you this:

A CO was using Google Maps to show addresses for an offender because, apparently, the offender wanted to see where his daughter lived.

"his daughter" being "the CO's daughter" or "the offender's daughter"?

I would hope the CO wouldn't be showing an inmate pictures/maps of where the CO's family lived, but at this point I wouldn't put anything past anyone.

I assume the offending CO has been relieved of his duties or will be very soon. Especially as I am sure that he/she only has the inmate's word that the address they're looking for is actually the home of a family member and that this "alleged" daughter would want her father to have directions to her home.

It was the inmate's daughter's address.  Yes, the CO was relieved of his duties post haste.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3221 on: January 05, 2013, 07:52:08 PM »
In Florida, we have CO's who are killed by inmates every year. Usually, there is another CO who is found to be at fault. So senseless and tragic.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3222 on: January 05, 2013, 08:21:00 PM »
In Florida, we have CO's who are killed by inmates every year. Usually, there is another CO who is found to be at fault. So senseless and tragic.

Wow.  Just wow.  In the entirety of my state's correctional history (1887), only 21 officers have been killed, 11 of which happened in one riot.  I cannot imagine being a CO in Florida.  So senseless and tragic.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3223 on: January 05, 2013, 09:28:17 PM »
The federal prisons here have lower rates than the state prisons do.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3224 on: January 05, 2013, 10:51:20 PM »
Why on earth would one start a fight over ketchup? Maybe it wasn't his idea of a good sandwich, but if the customer wants ketchup, and you have ketchup, why (at best) lose a customer over a couple of cents that are the company's, not yours, and (at worst) end up with jail time?  :o

As far as I know, Subway doesn't carry ketchup and never has. It might be one of the ones in a Wal-Mart, in which case, yeah, the customer could go buy his own. But that's a bizarre reason for either guy to suddenly go caveman on each other.

It is-it was mentioned in the article.  Not that he should have to buy a bottle of ketchup.

What do you mean? Of course he should. The Subway is under no obligation to provide it for him.

The customer is under no obligation to buy his sandwiches from subway.  The article didn't say whether or not he asked for ketchup from the beginning or after the sandwich was made.  If I order a sandwich with an ingredient a restaurant doesn't have the employee needs to inform me of that fact upfront.