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Miss Tickle

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3420 on: February 13, 2013, 11:45:55 PM »
Well, if I wanted to personalize that someone I'd never met made comments that personally applied to me, I guess I could construe that he hates me.
Actually, she didn't fire him immediately...she sent him home to wait for a call from his manager. Then she went and demanded the manager fire him.
I think you may be confused about what I'm saying. I'm not saying that the employee should not have been fired. I'm saying that it was handled badly. And that a company who handles a firing this way is probably abusive of its employees in many other ways, as the other workers described. A company that doesn't prioritize being kind to workers probably doesn't really care about customers, either. Just about pretending whatever's necessary to 'preserve the brand'.
I guess I did, because I completely agree with everything you say. I also think if you sign a release to be on tv you better be very careful, what you say can and will be used against you and all that.

Miss Tickle

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3421 on: February 14, 2013, 12:00:55 AM »
My husband asked me if I would recognize my company's CEO if he did something like this. I said of course I would. He asked how I knew. I told him that it was because our CEO is French and has a very distinct accent.  :P >:D :P

Our CEO is orange.

He spends a LOT of time in his tanning bed that is in his penthouse office.

Our CEO is almost 7 feet tall.

Mixed marriage on the parents part?

Half Oompa Loompa half giant?

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Ha!

Speaking of the giant CEO, there is a long standing tradition of firing (usually new) employees that violate privacy to see what his bonus is each year. Fee, Fie, Foo, Fum, I smell the blood of a dum-dee dum-dum.

Mediancat

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3422 on: February 14, 2013, 07:01:31 AM »
Mary's response is to blame her coworkers, and claim that she is only making a simple mistake, and we are making a undo fuss.
Mary needs a reality check.  There are "simple mistakes" and "acts that violate the law."  Acts that violate the law are not simple mistakes and they have serious consequences, like losing your job.

Slight disagreement. I work with HIPAA and there are indeed some very simple things you can do that violates the law.  Which in no way, shape or forms makes violation of the law excusable, just that it can be very easy to do so.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3423 on: February 14, 2013, 07:19:53 AM »
Mary's response is to blame her coworkers, and claim that she is only making a simple mistake, and we are making a undo fuss.
Mary needs a reality check.  There are "simple mistakes" and "acts that violate the law."  Acts that violate the law are not simple mistakes and they have serious consequences, like losing your job.

Slight disagreement. I work with HIPAA and there are indeed some very simple things you can do that violates the law.  Which in no way, shape or forms makes violation of the law excusable, just that it can be very easy to do so.

Rob

You're right, it can be very easy to inadvertantly violate privacy laws.  For that reason, an attitude like Mary's is absolutely unacceptable in that sort of position.  If I had an employee who reacted as Mary did when confronted with her repeated errors, I'd bring it to HR and request that she either be terminated or reassigned to a position that doesn't involve access to private data.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3424 on: February 14, 2013, 09:08:51 AM »
I work with the Federal Education Right to Privacy Act (FERPA) and we have permanent and salaried employees who are fired on a regular basis for violating FERPA. It usually involves money, student athletes and the media.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3425 on: February 14, 2013, 11:33:30 AM »
DH's work had one recently. They are are hired to work 8 hour days and then be on call until next morning.  Our candidate takes the job.  He is on call. He is texted that he has a call. He replies that he is not taking it. He is busy.  :o This happened more than once, that shift. They found someone to replace him who understood the meaning of "on call".
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3426 on: February 14, 2013, 12:35:54 PM »
I've read a number of the "showed up on the first day of work, went to lunch and never came back" postings and kept asking "do people really do that?" Apparently, the answer is "yes," because we had one this week.

Without going into detail, our hiring process is a mess. To circumvent some of the issues, our CEO(!) hired a developer on a contract-to-hire basis, with a 2 month contract. A pretty good idea since we haven't had the opportunity to fully vet the candidates; there's little risk for either party. The developer showed up on the first day and left after 4 hours, telling the contracting company that it "wasn't a good fit." There's some speculation that the developer had a better offer, but my guess is that they were put off by the offices -- the bulk of the team are in some temporary space and it isn't nearly as elegant as other places in the Silicon Valley (and this developer had been at one of the ritziest.) Personally, I would have worked through the contract and then left.

The developer's name is going into my "bad apples" file.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3427 on: February 14, 2013, 12:51:01 PM »
I've read a number of the "showed up on the first day of work, went to lunch and never came back" postings and kept asking "do people really do that?" Apparently, the answer is "yes," because we had one this week.

Without going into detail, our hiring process is a mess. To circumvent some of the issues, our CEO(!) hired a developer on a contract-to-hire basis, with a 2 month contract. A pretty good idea since we haven't had the opportunity to fully vet the candidates; there's little risk for either party. The developer showed up on the first day and left after 4 hours, telling the contracting company that it "wasn't a good fit." There's some speculation that the developer had a better offer, but my guess is that they were put off by the offices -- the bulk of the team are in some temporary space and it isn't nearly as elegant as other places in the Silicon Valley (and this developer had been at one of the ritziest.) Personally, I would have worked through the contract and then left.

The developer's name is going into my "bad apples" file.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3428 on: February 14, 2013, 01:07:06 PM »
I have a work friend who was on call once, and he got a work call while he was at the movies.  His response was "I'll call you back later."  That did NOT go over well with the bosses.  To this day, he still doesn't really understand what he did wrong - "I was at the MOVIES!  What was I supposed to do?"

ladyknight1

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3429 on: February 14, 2013, 01:07:48 PM »
Environment of an office can be a make or break choice for a lot of people. A year ago, we hired a woman to be an assistant director for a new program. She worked the first week, then gave two weeks notice. She didn't like our office space.  ??? I guess she really didn't need a job, as she is still unemployed.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3430 on: February 14, 2013, 01:41:07 PM »
I finally have a story to add!!

Background:  I work at a museum.  There are security cameras everywhere - including "behind the scenes" where only staff are allowed.  These security cameras are not necessarily watched and monitored 24/7, but the tapes always get reviewed the next day.

Story:  One Sunday evening (after the museum is closed), off-duty security officer Alan comes to pick up his paycheck.  Alan ends up talking to on-duty security officer Bob and on-duty security manager Carl.  Bob gets some sort of pill out of his locker and gives it to Alan.  Alan subsequently passes out.  Carl and Bob determine the best course of action is to somehow wake Alan up, carry/escort Alan out to his car and let him leave.  At no time did anyone think to call emergency services or to report the incident to higher ups.

Security tapes were reviewed on Monday.  We now have openings for two security guards and one security manager.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3431 on: February 14, 2013, 01:44:42 PM »
Spriggy: Just what the e-heck??????  They let the passed out guy drive away?
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TurtleDove

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3432 on: February 14, 2013, 01:57:12 PM »
My boss told me this tale that happened about 15 years ago.  The company interviewed for a new receptionist, and the president decided who he wanted to hire and called the applicant to offer the job.  Everyone was surprised to see a different applicant at the reception desk the next week - apparently the president had mixed up which resume went with which person and had offered the job to the wrong applicant.  Oh well, we'll see how this works out, was the decision.  Fast forward a few months.  The receptionist wasn't particularly well liked, but she wasn't completely incompetent either.  Things were okay.  There was a conferenc in New Orleans and the president, vice president and for some reason the receptionist flew to the conference and attended the first day.  The second day, the president, vice president and receptionist attended the morning session and then parted ways for lunch.  The receptionist was never heard from again.  Like, never.  She was not on the plane home the following day.  She never showed up for work or collected her belongings.  No one ever called looking for her.  Nothing.  She just vanished.  I asked my boss why they didn't follow up or report her as missing.  He said they just didn't really think about it.  That seriously blows my mind!  I really wonder what happened.  I am going on a trip to New Orleans with my boss in a few months and I am a little concerned that I might disappear too!  :)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3433 on: February 14, 2013, 02:19:44 PM »
No one called the police??? Did anyone ever do anything?

Garden Goblin

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3434 on: February 14, 2013, 02:30:12 PM »
DH's work had one recently. They are are hired to work 8 hour days and then be on call until next morning.  Our candidate takes the job.  He is on call. He is texted that he has a call. He replies that he is not taking it. He is busy.  :o This happened more than once, that shift. They found someone to replace him who understood the meaning of "on call".

This actually reminds me of an anti-professional darwinism story.

New kid had his first 'on-call shift'.  He was at a library about a mile from the place of business when he got paged.  He went out to his car, went to put the key in the door, and realized his tire was flat.  Instead of calling in or even spending the 20 minutes or so it would take to change the tire first, he grabbed his backpack and took off at a dead run, making it to the office within ten minutes of when the page went out.  His boss had some difficulty not laughing at him, but was apparently impressed.