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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3900 on: June 12, 2013, 08:19:52 PM »
I never knew my father even had a doctorate until I was an adult, and never knew he was head of the lab he worked in until his funeral, when so many of his former employees came up to tell me what a good boss he was :(.

Your father: He was doing it right.

Well... I have to disagree, sadly.  A person not knowing major details (education, profession details) about a parent speaks volumes (pardon the pun) about a lack of communication.

Not necessarily.  Some people don't find those things important in a family.

My fiance's brother did not know their mother moved to California.  While I cannot imagine that happening my family, this is normal for theirs.  His brother wasn't upset/hurt.  That's just how their family is.

That being said, while guihong found it important, apparently her father did not.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3901 on: June 12, 2013, 09:05:49 PM »
I never knew my father even had a doctorate until I was an adult, and never knew he was head of the lab he worked in until his funeral, when so many of his former employees came up to tell me what a good boss he was :(.

Your father: He was doing it right.

Well... I have to disagree, sadly.  A person not knowing major details (education, profession details) about a parent speaks volumes (pardon the pun) about a lack of communication.

Not necessarily.  Some people don't find those things important in a family.

My fiance's brother did not know their mother moved to California.  While I cannot imagine that happening my family, this is normal for theirs.  His brother wasn't upset/hurt.  That's just how their family is.

That being said, while guihong found it important, apparently her father did not.

Normal for them or not, it's still a lack of communication... it just isn't a troublesome one for them.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3902 on: June 12, 2013, 09:06:50 PM »
Talk of Ph.D.s reminds e of a PD story of a whole company.

BG:  One of our parish's deacons has a Ph.D. in physics and worked for a company where EVERYBODY had Ph.D.s.  They added little ribbons to their ID tags for patents. For each patent you received a ribbon. Things as picky as where you sat in the cafeteria was determined by how many ribbons you had.  The senior executives thought they were the smartest geeks on the block./BG

The senior executives acquired patented information from a competitor.  They decided that they would illegally use the patent.  Friend was told of he plans, to get on board, and that they would all make lots of money.  "No one will know." Friend refused, wisely kept a paper trail, email trail, etc. 

You know what's coming  ;)

The thieving company faced a major lawsuit and criminal charges.  Of course they tried to throw Friend under the bus.  He was the only one of the execs to survive unscathed and was offered a VP position in a blue chip tech company.

The senior execs may have had Ph.D.s and lots of patent ribbons, but they were not real bright.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3903 on: June 12, 2013, 09:23:50 PM »
I never knew my father even had a doctorate until I was an adult, and never knew he was head of the lab he worked in until his funeral, when so many of his former employees came up to tell me what a good boss he was :(.

Your father: He was doing it right.

Well... I have to disagree, sadly.  A person not knowing major details (education, profession details) about a parent speaks volumes (pardon the pun) about a lack of communication.

Not necessarily.  Some people don't find those things important in a family.

My fiance's brother did not know their mother moved to California.  While I cannot imagine that happening my family, this is normal for theirs.  His brother wasn't upset/hurt.  That's just how their family is.

That being said, while guihong found it important, apparently her father did not.

Normal for them or not, it's still a lack of communication... it just isn't a troublesome one for them.

Yes, I agree it is, but the way you phrased it with a precursor of "sadly", I presumed you meant it to be a negative lack of communication.  I thusly argued that it is not necessarily negative.  Not arguing now, btw, just pointing out why I responded the way I did.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3904 on: June 12, 2013, 10:26:34 PM »
Talk of Ph.D.s reminds e of a PD story of a whole company.

BG:  One of our parish's deacons has a Ph.D. in physics and worked for a company where EVERYBODY had Ph.D.s.  They added little ribbons to their ID tags for patents. For each patent you received a ribbon. Things as picky as where you sat in the cafeteria was determined by how many ribbons you had.  The senior executives thought they were the smartest geeks on the block./BG

The senior executives acquired patented information from a competitor.  They decided that they would illegally use the patent.  Friend was told of he plans, to get on board, and that they would all make lots of money.  "No one will know." Friend refused, wisely kept a paper trail, email trail, etc. 

You know what's coming  ;)

The thieving company faced a major lawsuit and criminal charges.  Of course they tried to throw Friend under the bus.  He was the only one of the execs to survive unscathed and was offered a VP position in a blue chip tech company.

The senior execs may have had Ph.D.s and lots of patent ribbons, but they were not real bright.

It doesn't particularly require a lot of intelligence to get a Ph.D. Determination, yes. One of the dumbest people I've ever met had a Ph.D.*, and one of the smartest (my grandfather) had an 8th grade education.

*Note: He was dumb particularly because he couldn't grasp what he didn't know. He was convinced he knew EVERYTHING, leading to massive failures all around. He could memorize and organize facts, but had very little emotional intelligence.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3905 on: June 12, 2013, 10:59:11 PM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3906 on: June 12, 2013, 11:08:52 PM »
An amusing and practical exception to that: my aunt L has a doctorate in biology and taught college biology for many years. When my grandmother was quite old and in the hospital, that aunt (rather than my mother or other aunt) was Speaker to the Hospital as much as possible, and she would always introduce herself as "Dr. B" rather than "Ms. B." It got more respect and more detailed medical information. This worked because her degree is in biology (rather than chemistry or ancient history), so she understood the details and could and did ask appropriate questions. (My mother could, in theory, have insisted on being "Dr R" even though she doesn't have a doctorate, but the same information phrased the same way would not have been useful to her.)

I have a friend that is veterinarian and you'd never know she's a doctor just by talking to her and when her DD had a serious medical issue she pulled the 'Dr.' card on an arrogant physician for the same purposes: to get more respect and more detailed information. I'd have done the same.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3907 on: June 13, 2013, 12:19:48 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm not kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3908 on: June 13, 2013, 01:46:05 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm no kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3909 on: June 13, 2013, 02:04:19 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm not kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D

Oh, I have people call me Master.... mostly clients who want to joke around with me though ;) But yes, I do get called "Master Maria" on a fairly regular basis ;)
 
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3910 on: June 13, 2013, 02:13:38 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

I have a MSc and my official job title is "Master" ;)

No, I'm not kidding. It's supposed to be short for Master Specialist, but it honestly is just "Master".

Considering I have, on occasion, made my children call me "Great Creator" I really can't see why you would pass up the opportunity to be called Master. At least occasionally. For fun. You know you want to... >:D

Oh, I have people call me Master.... mostly clients who want to joke around with me though ;) But yes, I do get called "Master Maria" on a fairly regular basis ;)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3911 on: June 13, 2013, 04:33:21 AM »
Your wish is my command.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjgHEctcy0

Ladyknight1, thanks for the link. I need you to do something else for me now, though. Could you come pick my jaw off the floor?

I'm stunned that these people could be this......hateful? Paranoid? Delusional? Crazy? Stupid? Dangerous? Mean? All of the above?

Wow.


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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3912 on: June 13, 2013, 07:14:07 AM »
Presented for your consideration is the story of Bela.

This is one from a good 20 years ago but it's a creepy classic.

Bela was an interesting character.  He was a Hungarian living in South Africa.  He was an Assyrioligist serving a year-long stint as a visiting scholar at a University in our city and doing his own research at the museum. 

...

It turned out that delightful Bela was stalking the graduate student who was his research assistant.  One night, she woke up to hear noise outside her apartment door.  Groggy with sleep, she thought her cat might have gotten out and opened the door to let it back in.  Standing there was Bela...at three in the morning.

This is completely OT, but it reminded me of a lovely story about Christopher Lee, back in his youth when he had just become famous for his Hammer Horror portrayals of Dracula. Apparently he was driving through rural Italy on holiday late one night, when his car broke down and he had to walk to the nearest house to get help.

Picture it, you live in a very small and isolated farmhouse, it's past midnight, you and your family are all in bed, when there's a knock at the door. Half-asleep, you stumble downstairs and open the door, to find standing in front of you... 

Apparently, the poor farmer fainted dead away on the spot.

(I can't remember where I heard this, but if it isn't true, then I can only say it should be.  ;D)
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3913 on: June 13, 2013, 09:58:04 AM »
I have an MBA!  You mean that I could have had people calling me Mistress Shalamar all these years?

... then again, that implies a certain "profession" that I'm not part of.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3914 on: June 13, 2013, 11:20:02 AM »
So does this mean when I complete my MBA in a couple months, it's not okay for me to insist everyone call me Master?

 ;) I am about to marry a pastor, and we met with a realtor last night who is one of his parishoners.  She asked if it was okay if she continued to call him "Pastor" when working together.  He said that was fine, though his first name is also fine, and then I insisted that she refer to me as "Majesty," you know, because I am the mother of my DD, who fancies herself a princess.