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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3991 on: July 02, 2013, 10:05:39 PM »
I don't know if this is PD yet, it depends how TechnicalDude conducts himself from here on in.

Our company is outsourcing a specialised kind of widget production to another company. My boss is relatively new here, and to speed up the process he put the TechnicalDude on the OtherCompany's side in direct contact with my coworker (who designed the widget and can give the most accurate information about the widget).

They both decide a typed skype messaging conversation is the quickest way to get the dialogue going (with documents being sent via email as required). 5 minutes into the conversation, coworker start howling with laughter and frantically gestures me over to her desk.

She explains that OtherCompany's TechnicalDude is someone she used to work with at another company. She also knows he was fired from that company for being totally useless. TechnicalDude, upon figuring out that they worked together previously, immediately says something like "Oh Wow! You're that totally hot blonde!" and then continues in a long rambling drooling paragraph about how awesome it is that they're going to be working together, and he can't wait to be working on site here because then he'll get to see her in person, and finished that epically long paragraph by awkwardly promising to be professional from now on.

All I could think was "You couldn't have decided to be professional from the start of the paragraph??"

Coworker relayed all of this (in its creepy overenthusiastic glory) to our boss, who she said had the most hilarious "what the...?!" expression on his face by the time she'd finished.

Does TechnicalDude know that you know, there is a Remove Message function in skype? seriously.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3992 on: July 02, 2013, 10:16:47 PM »
An executive at Tiffany's "lost" 165 pieces of jewelry  ::)

http://www.newser.com/story/170410/tiffany-vp-stole-13m-in-jewelry-cops.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=inbox&utm_campaign=newser

How did she think she would never get caught?!  She didn't even tried to hide the money she was getting!
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3993 on: July 03, 2013, 11:33:31 PM »
Two real estate agents tries to take a 90 person tour group on a rim to rim day hike of the Grand Canyon. Without permits. And lied to park rangers when questioned. Someone in the comment section pointed to their FB page, where the pics from that trip are being used to advertise how awesome their tours are  ???

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/06/grand_canyon_guides_duane_hage.php

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3994 on: July 04, 2013, 12:38:23 AM »
Two real estate agents tries to take a 90 person tour group on a rim to rim day hike of the Grand Canyon. Without permits. And lied to park rangers when questioned. Someone in the comment section pointed to their FB page, where the pics from that trip are being used to advertise how awesome their tours are  ???

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/06/grand_canyon_guides_duane_hage.php

It says that there is a future Half Dome/Yosemite tour.  I wonder if they know? Yosemite has started requiring permits, and the permits are very limited. ..

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3995 on: July 04, 2013, 07:26:18 AM »
Two real estate agents tries to take a 90 person tour group on a rim to rim day hike of the Grand Canyon. Without permits. And lied to park rangers when questioned. Someone in the comment section pointed to their FB page, where the pics from that trip are being used to advertise how awesome their tours are  ???

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/06/grand_canyon_guides_duane_hage.php

It says that there is a future Half Dome/Yosemite tour.  I wonder if they know? Yosemite has started requiring permits, and the permits are very limited. ..

I doubt they care, although I'm sure that USFS law enforcement is keeping an eye on them.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3996 on: July 04, 2013, 12:05:09 PM »
Their website is down, but I was able to use a Google cache to find a description of the Yosemite trip. "Hike Half Dome on August 30th, and hike El Capitan on August 31st " You don't hike El Capitan, you climb it. And it can take a couple of days depending o how you do it. So I am guessing that the trip includes hiking to Half Dome & El Capitan, not climbing them.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3997 on: July 04, 2013, 04:08:31 PM »
They don't seem to have a very clear idea of what they're doing, do they?

Considering that some of the people on their rim-to-rim trip needed IVs, I'd not be in a hurry to book with them.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3998 on: July 05, 2013, 01:50:31 PM »
My boyfriend is actually in the process of committing professional Darwinism. Iíve pointed it out, but he canít seem to keep his temper in line.

He works customer service in the financial sector. He had a job on the phones. He burned out HARD. And let everyone know it. He eventually got off the phones. Things were looking up. Then he got passed over for a promotion. And another promotion. He was told to ďdrink the Kool-AidĒ and play nice to make up for his burn out. He tried. And then got passed over for another promotion that went to someone with less than half his years in the company. My boyfriend proceeded to throw a hissy fit to his immediate supervisor, letting him know what expletive it was, and that he wouldn't be doing the bare minimum to get a paycheck since his hard work wasn't being rewarded. He told his supervisor heíd be looking for other work.

Now, I agree he should have got that last promotion, but he really needed to just keep his mouth shut. Especially since they just posted that the company is hiring eight people to that second position/promotion he applied for and didnít get. I think heís shot himself in the foot with this company, which is no fun since it really is a good company to work for.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #3999 on: July 05, 2013, 03:45:04 PM »
My boyfriend is actually in the process of committing professional Darwinism. Iíve pointed it out, but he canít seem to keep his temper in line.

Oh dear. When his next job calls for references, you know Old Boss / Old HR Dept is gonna give one of those statements like "John Jones ? I can confirm he worked here on those dates, in that position. Would I recommend him ? *ahem* That's all the information I can give you at this time..."

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4000 on: July 08, 2013, 10:33:51 AM »
My boyfriend is actually in the process of committing professional Darwinism. Iíve pointed it out, but he canít seem to keep his temper in line.

Oh dear. When his next job calls for references, you know Old Boss / Old HR Dept is gonna give one of those statements like "John Jones ? I can confirm he worked here on those dates, in that position. Would I recommend him ? *ahem* That's all the information I can give you at this time..."

Most of the companies I have worked for are only allowed to confirm the dates you worked there. I don't know what his company's policy is. And I don't know that he's thought that far ahead. His temper just gets the better of him.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4001 on: July 08, 2013, 11:50:13 AM »
My boyfriend is actually in the process of committing professional Darwinism. Iíve pointed it out, but he canít seem to keep his temper in line.

Oh dear. When his next job calls for references, you know Old Boss / Old HR Dept is gonna give one of those statements like "John Jones ? I can confirm he worked here on those dates, in that position. Would I recommend him ? *ahem* That's all the information I can give you at this time..."

Most of the companies I have worked for are only allowed to confirm the dates you worked there. I don't know what his company's policy is. And I don't know that he's thought that far ahead. His temper just gets the better of him.

People in the position to hire usually ask something like "Would you rehire this person?" or "Is this person eligible for rehire?" and saying "NO" gives the new company all the info they need.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4002 on: July 08, 2013, 01:55:32 PM »
When my sister worked as a hiring manager, all she was allowed to ask was dates of employment and if the employee was eligible for rehire.

One time, at the second job she sat for interviews at, she noticed that the applicant's previous job was where sis had worked a few years ago. Off the clock, on her own personal time, she asked her husband about this person, because her husband worked with her. Yeah, the look on his face when she mentioned the applicant's name told her more than she'd ever get from an HR person, even if she did know them very well.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4003 on: July 08, 2013, 03:02:00 PM »
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People in the position to hire usually ask something like "Would you rehire this person?" or "Is this person eligible for rehire?" and saying "NO" gives the new company all the info they need.
And even if they cannot answer the question there is often a tone of voice change or an "ahem" like the other poster mentioned before saying the "I cannot give that info" line.  People give things away without saying anything.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4004 on: July 08, 2013, 04:36:59 PM »
I'm not sure how small an industry he works for, but as cwm pointed out, there can be small degrees of separation. It may be that no HR person ever needs to check his references, word will just get around, especially if he leaves in such a spectacular fashion.
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