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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4065 on: July 19, 2013, 01:52:33 PM »
A loooong time ago while stationed at Ft. Huachuca, Arizona, the editor of the post newspaper wrote a scathing editorial about soldiers driving military cars off post to have lunch. 

I always wonder if there are ever any write ups in Vegas papers... sometimes when we do training there, we have to live in downtown in a casino... fleets of government vans in the parking garage of a den of debauchery!
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4066 on: July 19, 2013, 03:07:22 PM »
An interesting example of what may well turn out to be epic professional Darwinism is in the news in the UK at the moment.

As various people may know, JK Rowling wrote a book for adults under her own name.  It sold really well, but the critics weren't happy with it and there was a lot of sneering that it wouldn't have been published if it hadn't been for who wrote it.

She therefore published her next book using a pen name.  It sold about 5000 copies (which I understand is pretty good for a brand new author who doesn't do any publicity).  I believe it was a detective story written under a male name.  The critics thought it was quite good (a lot of them are being smug about this now).

Apparently, fewer than 10 people knew who the author really was.  Suddenly some random woman posts on Twitter that this person is actually JK Rowling and it all comes out.

There has been a massive investigation and it turns out that Rowling's lawyer (so there is actually a legal duty of confidentiality) told his wife and her best friend and it is the best friend who posted (and then promptly deleted but too late).

There is no update on what Rowling is planning on doing in regard to the lawyer (sue or fire the firm or just insist that particular lawyer no longer works on her file) , but a reputation for blabbing your client's secrets to random people isn't exactly what a high powered lawyer needs.  I suspect he will be fired or resign shortly.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4067 on: July 19, 2013, 03:15:02 PM »
A loooong time ago while stationed at Ft. Huachuca, Arizona, the editor of the post newspaper wrote a scathing editorial about soldiers driving military cars off post to have lunch. 

I always wonder if there are ever any write ups in Vegas papers... sometimes when we do training there, we have to live in downtown in a casino... fleets of government vans in the parking garage of a den of debauchery!
meh, probably not. It's Vegas. The city is a well known destination for conventions of all sorts since they have the hotel and event space. I imagine that in less touristy cities it stands out more when a government vehicle is parked outside of an entertainment spot. In Vegas, it wouldn't even be a blip on my radar to see the cars in the parking garage or people walking around the hotel or event areas. I might only raise an eyebrow if I saw a group of uniformed people entering/leaving a Thunder from Down Under show.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4068 on: July 19, 2013, 03:51:37 PM »
An interesting example of what may well turn out to be epic professional Darwinism is in the news in the UK at the moment.

As various people may know, JK Rowling wrote a book for adults under her own name.  It sold really well, but the critics weren't happy with it and there was a lot of sneering that it wouldn't have been published if it hadn't been for who wrote it.

She therefore published her next book using a pen name.  It sold about 5000 copies (which I understand is pretty good for a brand new author who doesn't do any publicity).  I believe it was a detective story written under a male name.  The critics thought it was quite good (a lot of them are being smug about this now).

Apparently, fewer than 10 people knew who the author really was.  Suddenly some random woman posts on Twitter that this person is actually JK Rowling and it all comes out.

There has been a massive investigation and it turns out that Rowling's lawyer (so there is actually a legal duty of confidentiality) told his wife and her best friend and it is the best friend who posted (and then promptly deleted but too late).

There is no update on what Rowling is planning on doing in regard to the lawyer (sue or fire the firm or just insist that particular lawyer no longer works on her file) , but a reputation for blabbing your client's secrets to random people isn't exactly what a high powered lawyer needs.  I suspect he will be fired or resign shortly.

I think the lawyer told his wife, who then blabbed to her best friend.  Which is slightly better in theory, but not enough to matter IMO.  I think he should be fired.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4069 on: July 19, 2013, 04:10:09 PM »
An interesting example of what may well turn out to be epic professional Darwinism is in the news in the UK at the moment.

As various people may know, JK Rowling wrote a book for adults under her own name.  It sold really well, but the critics weren't happy with it and there was a lot of sneering that it wouldn't have been published if it hadn't been for who wrote it.

She therefore published her next book using a pen name.  It sold about 5000 copies (which I understand is pretty good for a brand new author who doesn't do any publicity).  I believe it was a detective story written under a male name.  The critics thought it was quite good (a lot of them are being smug about this now).

Apparently, fewer than 10 people knew who the author really was.  Suddenly some random woman posts on Twitter that this person is actually JK Rowling and it all comes out.

There has been a massive investigation and it turns out that Rowling's lawyer (so there is actually a legal duty of confidentiality) told his wife and her best friend and it is the best friend who posted (and then promptly deleted but too late).

There is no update on what Rowling is planning on doing in regard to the lawyer (sue or fire the firm or just insist that particular lawyer no longer works on her file) , but a reputation for blabbing your client's secrets to random people isn't exactly what a high powered lawyer needs.  I suspect he will be fired or resign shortly.

I think the lawyer told his wife, who then blabbed to her best friend.  Which is slightly better in theory, but not enough to matter IMO.  I think he should be fired.

Not really. He still owes a duty of confidentiality and should not have been discussing anything to do with clients outside work. It's a material non-compliance and his firm's compliance officer  will have to report the firm to the SRA.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4070 on: July 19, 2013, 04:20:21 PM »
CynicalTwik wonders if there was a "reveal" planned for some time soon, if not by this specific method.

However, I can't see that they would create a reveal that implicates her lawyer as being unethical (and his wife as being extremely foolish).

And now I want to read the book.  ;)
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4071 on: July 19, 2013, 04:26:10 PM »
I don't know British law, but it might be hard to prove that she was damaged by the reveal, since book sales have skyrocketed since it happened.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4072 on: July 19, 2013, 05:48:41 PM »
I don't know British law, but it might be hard to prove that she was damaged by the reveal, since book sales have skyrocketed since it happened.

He still broke the law and betrayed his clients. Why should other clients trust him.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4073 on: July 19, 2013, 08:22:38 PM »
I don't know British law, but it might be hard to prove that she was damaged by the reveal, since book sales have skyrocketed since it happened.

He still broke the law and betrayed his clients. Why should other clients trust him.

Yeah, by attorney ethical standards, it doesn't matter if there's "harm." The harm is inherent in violating attorney/client confidentiality. I can't believe a lawyer lucky enough to work with JKR would risk so much!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4074 on: July 20, 2013, 05:02:54 AM »
My Grandfather told me about one years ago from his job. He worked in a cement plant. When it came close to retirement date, employees were brought into the office to go over their files to make sure everything was in order (dates of employment, addresses, etc.).

One employee had a bad habit of imbibing now and then and winding up with a hangover for his next shift. He would then call in and say he had to go have a tooth pulled. In those days, they never thought about asking for a Doctor's note for things like that.

Grandad said when they called this gentleman in to go over his papers, the Boss Man very calmly said to him, "Do you realize in the time you've worked here you have had 53 teeth pulled?".

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4075 on: July 21, 2013, 12:53:44 AM »
A loooong time ago while stationed at Ft. Huachuca, Arizona, the editor of the post newspaper wrote a scathing editorial about soldiers driving military cars off post to have lunch. 

I always wonder if there are ever any write ups in Vegas papers... sometimes when we do training there, we have to live in downtown in a casino... fleets of government vans in the parking garage of a den of debauchery!

I could see it.  You can get great rates there.  Or, vehicles from Nellis AFB for a lunch meeting taking advantage of a buffet. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4076 on: July 21, 2013, 09:43:27 AM »
The story I heard the other day is a Carnegie Mellon University professor studied the new book, and did some researching by analyzing the style and  key phrases (the university is well known for absolute brainiacs who can figure anything out) then figured out it was J.K. Rowling and made it public somehow and so they are crediting him with the outing.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4077 on: July 21, 2013, 10:48:41 AM »
The story I heard the other day is a Carnegie Mellon University professor studied the new book, and did some researching by analyzing the style and  key phrases (the university is well known for absolute brainiacs who can figure anything out) then figured out it was J.K. Rowling and made it public somehow and so they are crediting him with the outing.

I'm not sure I believe that.  Why would they analyze some random book?  There was no reason to think there was some mystery about the author.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4078 on: July 21, 2013, 11:05:27 AM »
The Science That Uncovered J.K. Rowling’s Literary Hocus-Pocus

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In chasing the scoop, the reporters [for London's Sunday Times] called upon two experts in the field of authorship attribution to determine if “Galbraith” was really Rowling. The experts ran the texts through software programs designed to spot stylistic similarities, and the results were compelling enough for the Times to confront Rowling, who confessed to the pseudonymous work.
One was at Oxford; the other at Duquesne University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. They looked at "machine-readable texts of 'The Cuckoo’s Calling' along with Rowling’s previous novel, “The Casual Vacancy,” and novels by three British women who specialize in crime fiction: Ruth Rendell, P.D. James, and Val McDermid."

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4079 on: July 21, 2013, 11:11:02 AM »
The Science That Uncovered J.K. Rowling’s Literary Hocus-Pocus

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In chasing the scoop, the reporters [for London's Sunday Times] called upon two experts in the field of authorship attribution to determine if “Galbraith” was really Rowling. The experts ran the texts through software programs designed to spot stylistic similarities, and the results were compelling enough for the Times to confront Rowling, who confessed to the pseudonymous work.
One was at Oxford; the other at Duquesne University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. They looked at "machine-readable texts of 'The Cuckoo’s Calling' along with Rowling’s previous novel, “The Casual Vacancy,” and novels by three British women who specialize in crime fiction: Ruth Rendell, P.D. James, and Val McDermid."

That makes more sense.  They analyzed it to prove/confirm a rumour that was already spreading.