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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4215 on: August 15, 2013, 06:41:01 PM »
Please move one from discussing the internet pics and consequences thereof, and please don't start another thread because the topic is already contentious.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4216 on: August 15, 2013, 06:56:57 PM »
Why on earth do people do that? Do they think nobody will report them?

From stories reported here and elsewhere, a lot of companies don't particularly care if their drivers are endangering the public, as long as they get their jobs done. One person, might've been someone here, reported a dangerous driver to his company and gave them the license plate number of the truck he was driving. She was told that without the truck number painted on the side there was nothing that could be done. That's either a bald-faced lie or an indication that the company is so incompetent that it's a miracle they're still in business. I know which one I believe.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4217 on: August 15, 2013, 08:01:25 PM »
Story today about a young man who was working at a Mr, Lube yesterday in Toronto. Finding the day dragging on, he had a great idea - he tweeted his numerous followers that he was looking for someone to bring him a hit of marijuana to make the day pass.

He soon got a response, "Cool, can we come?" from the Toronto Police.

Shortly thereafter, he was informed by his employer his services were no longer required.

He's now blaming it on loss of freedom of speech in today's society, rather than his employer not wanting customers to think their cars were serviced by stoned techs.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4218 on: August 15, 2013, 09:19:44 PM »
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4220 on: August 15, 2013, 09:43:26 PM »
Incidentally, the founder of Mr. Lube is a former RCMP officer.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4221 on: August 16, 2013, 08:18:02 AM »
freedom of speech also doesn't mean you can solicit something illegal.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4222 on: August 16, 2013, 11:07:04 AM »
My friend, Bob, saw a particularly stellar case of PD play out over the last year at his place of employment that culminated on Monday.

Bob works in a department that does programming and websites. Bob worked with a guy, Jim, at a previous place of employment, and when Jim applied to work at Bob's new department, Bob was hesitant. See, the job required skills that Jim did not exactly have, but were similar enough that with study, Jim could probably learn fairly quickly. So, based on the fact that Jim was fairly likable, and with the stipulation that Jim take training and get up the speed, the company hired Jim.

In the past year Jim has:

1. Shown NO initiative to learn what he needs to learn.
2. Training has failed.
3. Extended his lunch hours to 2 hours from the normal 1 hour on a regular basis.
4. Been using his personal computer on the companies guest network, which IS allowable, however, he has used this access to:
    a. Spend the hours after his 2 hour lunch playing MMORPGs
    b. Spend hours reading gaming and other more "Adult" forums
6. Basically not produced much of anything useable for most of the time he's been there.

When it was realized that Jim was taking two hour lunches, and got caught playing games (by a coworker who happened to walk by and see it before Jim closed the laptop), logging was turned on for the guest network.

After a week, the company had more than enough evidence to fire him. He was working maybe about an hour a day, and the rest of the time was spent on various forums and online gaming. He was escorted out Monday, and when they cleaned up his computer, they found all sort of fun stuff, including evidence that he knew he was going to be fired, and was collecting info to start a legal dispute against the company for said firing that hadn't yet occurred.

Bob seems pretty sure that Jim's lawsuit isn't going to happen...  ;D

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4223 on: August 16, 2013, 11:08:47 AM »
Why on earth do people do that? Do they think nobody will report them?

From stories reported here and elsewhere, a lot of companies don't particularly care if their drivers are endangering the public, as long as they get their jobs done. One person, might've been someone here, reported a dangerous driver to his company and gave them the license plate number of the truck he was driving. She was told that without the truck number painted on the side there was nothing that could be done. That's either a bald-faced lie or an indication that the company is so incompetent that it's a miracle they're still in business. I know which one I believe.

I know when I was a dispatch supervisor many years ago, I would receive calls from drivers that were driving recklessly. The number that was listed on the trucks was just our main number, so there were numerous people who could be answering the phone.  I would take down the information and pass it on to the operation supervisors. Typically it was the same people that would get reported, there were very few surprises in regards to who was not driving safely.

However, there was another supervisor who was friendly with some of these drivers.  So when they got called in on, the call would die right there.  The other supervisor would pull the driver aside when he had a moment to spare and just give him a warning that he had been called in on, but that's as far as it would go.  Typically they would just laugh about it and that would be the end of it.

Unless the company has a system set up to get around this, so the complaints go to an impartial person who takes note and investigates, this scenario will always be a possibility.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4224 on: August 16, 2013, 01:04:55 PM »
Why on earth do people do that? Do they think nobody will report them?

From stories reported here and elsewhere, a lot of companies don't particularly care if their drivers are endangering the public, as long as they get their jobs done. One person, might've been someone here, reported a dangerous driver to his company and gave them the license plate number of the truck he was driving. She was told that without the truck number painted on the side there was nothing that could be done. That's either a bald-faced lie or an indication that the company is so incompetent that it's a miracle they're still in business. I know which one I believe.

That was me! I was told that the license plate (plus timing and location of the incident) wasn't a unique enough identifier to determine the driver. It still ticks me off, as he almost side-swiped me, before running through a stop sign and a red light!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4225 on: August 16, 2013, 01:11:52 PM »
My supervisor was rearended by a work van.  She got through the intersection, pulled over and the guy continued merrily on his way.  She got the license plate number, the business name, a good look at the driver and noticed that the front license plate was missing (required, by law, here).

She got to work, googled the company for a phone number and they had pictures of their employees right on the website.  She called in and spoke to a manager, relaying everything, including the fact that the front license plate was missing.  He was completely supportive; told her he would call her back as soon as he double checked the GPS information and talked to the driver.

The guy came in to the office and reported the missing front license plate.  And nothing else.  The manager looked at him and said, 'Do you think you might have lost it when you rearended the lady in the CRV this morning?'

I don't know what happened to the driver but they took care of my supervisor's CRV.  Sent her to a particular body shop they use, had them install a brand new bumper and they picked up the tab for everything.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4226 on: August 17, 2013, 03:18:48 AM »
Why on earth do people do that? Do they think nobody will report them?

From stories reported here and elsewhere, a lot of companies don't particularly care if their drivers are endangering the public, as long as they get their jobs done. One person, might've been someone here, reported a dangerous driver to his company and gave them the license plate number of the truck he was driving. She was told that without the truck number painted on the side there was nothing that could be done. That's either a bald-faced lie or an indication that the company is so incompetent that it's a miracle they're still in business. I know which one I believe.

That was me! I was told that the license plate (plus timing and location of the incident) wasn't a unique enough identifier to determine the driver. It still ticks me off, as he almost side-swiped me, before running through a stop sign and a red light!

Evil thinks it would be for the news and the police.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4227 on: August 17, 2013, 04:13:50 AM »
Why on earth do people do that? Do they think nobody will report them?

From stories reported here and elsewhere, a lot of companies don't particularly care if their drivers are endangering the public, as long as they get their jobs done. One person, might've been someone here, reported a dangerous driver to his company and gave them the license plate number of the truck he was driving. She was told that without the truck number painted on the side there was nothing that could be done. That's either a bald-faced lie or an indication that the company is so incompetent that it's a miracle they're still in business. I know which one I believe.

That was me! I was told that the license plate (plus timing and location of the incident) wasn't a unique enough identifier to determine the driver. It still ticks me off, as he almost side-swiped me, before running through a stop sign and a red light!

Evil thinks it would be for the news and the police.

That's not evil, it's responsible!  :o

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4228 on: August 17, 2013, 07:58:50 AM »
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Right - and

Freedom of speech applies to GOVERNMENT action. It does not mean I as a private citizen have to listen to your hate filled speech or that if I disagree with you and don't want your views stuffed down my throat that I'm violating your rights.


It does not mean that private companies (facebook, Twitter, your ISP, Blog hosting companies) can't ban you from using their services to promote your hate or illegal business.


 It also doesn't mean you get scream and curse at people that happen to be government employees. You can be arrested for verbally assaulting/screaming at a teacher especially if you are disrupting a class - applies to adults (using the term only to mean someone over 18 not implying they are actually acting like they are older than 2) and students. Punch a teacher - you can be banned from campus or be required to have an escort (cop or admin) when on campus. (Actually happened a few years ago to my teammate. The last of that family graduated from 5th grade last year - Happy Dance)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4229 on: August 18, 2013, 02:30:18 PM »
I just heard this one from the mother of a new middle-schooler.

When the middle-school students went to their first day of classes last Wednesday, none of them had gotten their schedules.  That's because there were no schedules.  As in, none of the teachers knew which classes they were teaching, what times the classes would be held, what room the classes would be in, and how many students were signed up for the class.

Somehow, the principal (who makes up these schedules) had managed to keep the board from finding out about this little problem until the first day of school.  By the second day of school, there was a new principal.