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Dazi

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4230 on: August 27, 2013, 06:23:17 AM »
Public announcement:

Do not steal government supplies and sell them to civilians.

Especially if you are overseas and these civilians are considered high risk.

I volunteer at a VA hospital in the Biomed department (the people who deal with the medical machines). Do you know what happens when Biomed and/or Sterilization realize they are missing stuff? Why yes, they do Google.  You are selling $1800 medical equipment for half price? You're not part of any company or clinic that upgraded? Hope you've got a lawyer because you WILL be getting a knock on the door. Idiot. Don't forget to kiss your retirement account goodbye. This happened years ago at a place my DH used to work. They figured out they were missing like$30000-ish worth of electronics after an inventory.  The employee stole the stuff when he closed or opened my himself and stored the it in his garage.  A simple google search and eBay search caught the guy in a matter of minutes.  Also, they vastly underestimated what he stole from them.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4231 on: August 27, 2013, 06:51:18 AM »
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker

That's PD*2 - not only should she get canned for doing that, her coworker who loaned the card should as well.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4232 on: August 27, 2013, 07:14:12 AM »
I doubt this will be PD, but it's not winning her any points.

We have a new coworker on staff who started on Monday, who in the last day and half of working here has asked for:

1) lifts to and from work from a coworker who lives near her because her car is currently in the shop
2) to borrow someone's usb drive for copying movies (not sure she's returned it yet either)
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker
4) to use someone's perscription painkillers (because the normal over the counter stuff wasn't good enough for her).

Note that these are only things I've witnessed in my direct earshot, so there could very well be many other instances of her asking for things from people.

She is also naggy as heck. When the techies were setting up her laptop for her, she was in their office every 30 minutes or so asking them repeatedly if it was done yet.

I sense much unpleasentness ahead.

#1: annoying.
#2: irritating.
#4: large red flag!

and #3: AAOOGAH! AAOOGAH!! AAOOGAH!!! Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4233 on: August 27, 2013, 08:22:04 AM »
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker

That's PD*2 - not only should she get canned for doing that, her coworker who loaned the card should as well.

Not necessarily. The first part (borrowing the s.a card) would be seen as no big deal at my place of work - we do it all the time.
Of course we also return the card pronto.

But of course it all depends on what the card actually accesses. Ours just opens the outer doors - nothing else.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4234 on: August 27, 2013, 08:31:52 AM »
I doubt this will be PD, but it's not winning her any points.

We have a new coworker on staff who started on Monday, who in the last day and half of working here has asked for:

1) lifts to and from work from a coworker who lives near her because her car is currently in the shop
2) to borrow someone's usb drive for copying movies (not sure she's returned it yet either)
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker
4) to use someone's perscription painkillers (because the normal over the counter stuff wasn't good enough for her).

#1: annoying.
#2: irritating.
#4: large red flag!

and #3: AAOOGAH! AAOOGAH!! AAOOGAH!!! Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
#2 does too -- she's pirating movies, and this is somehow OK?  And OK with the CW who lent her the USB drive?
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4235 on: August 27, 2013, 09:21:05 AM »
I doubt this will be PD, but it's not winning her any points.

We have a new coworker on staff who started on Monday, who in the last day and half of working here has asked for:

1) lifts to and from work from a coworker who lives near her because her car is currently in the shop
2) to borrow someone's usb drive for copying movies (not sure she's returned it yet either)
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker
4) to use someone's perscription painkillers (because the normal over the counter stuff wasn't good enough for her).

#1: annoying.
#2: irritating.
#4: large red flag!

and #3: AAOOGAH! AAOOGAH!! AAOOGAH!!! Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
#2 does too -- she's pirating movies, and this is somehow OK?  And OK with the CW who lent her the USB drive?

#2 isn't necessarily pirating... DH and I do a lot of copying movies back and forth on USB drives.  Of course, we have a media player that accepts USB drives, and we also long ago ripped our huge movie library onto a computer hard drive to save on storage space.  When we want to watch a movie, we copy it onto a USB, plug the USB into the player, and ta-da!  (Of course, this lady really needs to get her own USB, you can get them for a couple bucks at any Walmart!)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4236 on: August 27, 2013, 10:24:33 AM »
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker

That's PD*2 - not only should she get canned for doing that, her coworker who loaned the card should as well.

Totally agree - very poor decision on the CW's part to loan out the card.

The only way I could see this not being PD is if it was approved by a manager, in a "help the new employee" kind of way.  For example, when I first started one job, I had to get a security clearance in order to even enter the office space.  I got my clearance but it was not reflected on my badge for a week or so - for that week people were approved to open the door for me whenever I needed it.  Though I didn't ever take someone's card, I had to knock and wait til someone was available to help.

I hope in the case of the Rx painkillers that that coworker said NO.  Red flag!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4237 on: August 27, 2013, 10:31:56 AM »
I doubt this will be PD, but it's not winning her any points.

We have a new coworker on staff who started on Monday, who in the last day and half of working here has asked for:

1) lifts to and from work from a coworker who lives near her because her car is currently in the shop
2) to borrow someone's usb drive for copying movies (not sure she's returned it yet either)
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker
4) to use someone's perscription painkillers (because the normal over the counter stuff wasn't good enough for her).

Note that these are only things I've witnessed in my direct earshot, so there could very well be many other instances of her asking for things from people.

She is also naggy as heck. When the techies were setting up her laptop for her, she was in their office every 30 minutes or so asking them repeatedly if it was done yet.

I sense much unpleasentness ahead.

I'm counting 1 bit of potential rudeness (depending on attitude when asking for the ride), 1 probable waste of company resources (unless copying those movies is part of her job), one office security breach, 2 cases of potential theft, and one attempted felony (assuming you're in the US).

She's still employed how?
What part of v_e = \sqrt{\frac{2GM}{r}} don't you understand? It's only rocket science!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4238 on: August 27, 2013, 11:10:33 AM »
#3 could be serious or innocuous. In my building you need a key to get into the bathrooms -- it's the same key that opens all the doors including the front door to the building. When I was first moved into this building, it took our facilities department almost a week to issue a key to me. So if there were a policy against loaning out keys, I'd wouldn't have had access to the bathroom. People forget their keys all the time and just borrow one. I've loaned mine out to visitors so they can use the bathroom. The not returning it would have been a problem though. Why hasn't coworker gone up to her and demanded it's return?

#4 to me is the biggest red flag. But why would she even know that a coworker has prescription painkillers? This woman just started and most people don't routinely go around telling strangers what medications they're using. Or did she just make a general statement that she needed some Vicodin for her headache because Advil just won't work?
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4239 on: August 27, 2013, 12:51:24 PM »
I doubt this will be PD, but it's not winning her any points.

We have a new coworker on staff who started on Monday, who in the last day and half of working here has asked for:

1) lifts to and from work from a coworker who lives near her because her car is currently in the shop
2) to borrow someone's usb drive for copying movies (not sure she's returned it yet either)
3) to borrow a coworker's secure access card and still hasn't returned it to coworker
4) to use someone's perscription painkillers (because the normal over the counter stuff wasn't good enough for her).

Note that these are only things I've witnessed in my direct earshot, so there could very well be many other instances of her asking for things from people.

She is also naggy as heck. When the techies were setting up her laptop for her, she was in their office every 30 minutes or so asking them repeatedly if it was done yet.

I sense much unpleasentness ahead.

#1 could be completely fine. I share rides to and from work when my car is in the shop, and offer rides to other people who need them. It depends on the work atmosphere and how she's asking.
#2 would make me mad. I barely let my sister borrow my thumb drive, and that's when I'm sitting right there and watching her copy things and getting it right back.
#3 is fine by my office. The cards let us into the building, that's all. Some people who forget them have other people let them in, but if a smoker forgets his/her card, that person will be borrowing access cards all day. It's not a big deal to us. Except for the part about not bringing it back. That's a big deal.

#4 stands out to me as the worst. Asking someone else to commit a serious crime (if the laws are anything like the ones here) because she can't get any on her own? Um, no.

Also, nagging IT people is never a good plan. Actually, nagging anyone, especially within your first week on the job, is never a good plan. Or even if it's your fifth year on the job.

Okay, can we all agree that nagging on the job isn't a good plan?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4240 on: August 27, 2013, 01:50:58 PM »
Nagging is a bad thing in general.
What part of v_e = \sqrt{\frac{2GM}{r}} don't you understand? It's only rocket science!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4241 on: August 27, 2013, 01:51:55 PM »
An admin person at my office said something today to the director that is going to come back and bite her. I don't understand why people don't think before speaking.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4242 on: August 27, 2013, 01:52:35 PM »
May I inquire as to what was said?
What part of v_e = \sqrt{\frac{2GM}{r}} don't you understand? It's only rocket science!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4243 on: August 27, 2013, 02:29:01 PM »
Some minor thing happened here, in X department, that required a member of Y department to correct. At the time, Y department was in a meeting. This minor incident could have easily waited until after the meeting was over.

She said, "Oh, they are just in a meeting. I'm sure it is nothing important. I'll just go get ___ out of that meeting to take care of this." Staff in Y department are in higher positions than admin person.

Way wrong thing to say here, in this environment. I put the portion of what was said that irked me most in italics.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4244 on: August 27, 2013, 03:15:28 PM »
How to commit serious PD and get yourself in a whole bunch of other trouble:

1) Move to a different country without the proper documents
2) Steal somebody's identity
3) Use that identity to work in a federally regulated field (truck driver, in this case)
4) Get pulled over for a broken turn signal
5) Get arrested and deported.
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