Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74

[LadyJaneinMD]

We had a fringe group in elaborate robes that would set up pedestals near our math building and then preach about how America (where we are) is full of terrible, selfish ungodly people and how women shouldn't be allowed to go to college or get jobs. Women should be married out of high school and stay at home the rest of their lives taking care of the house and children.

This was in 2011. 

Nutcases still abound.
http://www.fixthefamily.com/blog/6-reasons-to-not-send-your-daughter-to-college

[PastryGoddess]

We had a fringe group in elaborate robes that would set up pedestals near our math building and then preach about how America (where we are) is full of terrible, selfish ungodly people and how women shouldn't be allowed to go to college or get jobs. Women should be married out of high school and stay at home the rest of their lives taking care of the house and children.

This was in 2011. 

Nutcases still abound.
http://www.fixthefamily.com/blog/6-reasons-to-not-send-your-daughter-to-college

W.O.W.com

[GreenHall]

We had a fringe group in elaborate robes that would set up pedestals near our math building and then preach about how America (where we are) is full of terrible, selfish ungodly people and how women shouldn't be allowed to go to college or get jobs. Women should be married out of high school and stay at home the rest of their lives taking care of the house and children.

This was in 2011. 

Nutcases still abound.
http://www.fixthefamily.com/blog/6-reasons-to-not-send-your-daughter-to-college

It does hearten me after skimming the 'article' to see how many of the comments disagree (vehemently!)

[cabbagegirl28]

Well, my cats kinda speak to me. When Pollux trots ahead of me into the bathroom, hops into the bathtub, and meows at me as I enter, it's pretty clear that he wants me to turn on the water so he can get a drink. (Never mind the sink just a few feet away has the water dripping at all times. No, he wants bathtub water.)

Does that count?

And Max just came to me and prodded me with a paw because he wanted scritches.  Pretty obvious.  I don't think the question means that; I think the question means something like "Does your goldfish tell you to go out and throw spaghetti sauce on people's lawns?"

You're not crazy if the squirrels talk to you.  You're only crazy if you take their advice. NEVER let a squirrel give you a hot stock tip!

Remember, if squirrels take an interest in you, you're not crazy... you're nuts.

[nuit93]

We had a fringe group in elaborate robes that would set up pedestals near our math building and then preach about how America (where we are) is full of terrible, selfish ungodly people and how women shouldn't be allowed to go to college or get jobs. Women should be married out of high school and stay at home the rest of their lives taking care of the house and children.

This was in 2011. 

Nutcases still abound.
http://www.fixthefamily.com/blog/6-reasons-to-not-send-your-daughter-to-college

Take out all the religious references and my mom's ex-husband could have written that.

I wish I were kidding.  There's nothing more surreal than being yelled at for taking college prep classes instead of home ec...and this was in the late 90's.

[dietcokeofevil]

A guy at DH's company is showing some professional darwinism.  He's been allowed to work from his home, with the expectation that he will come in to the office as needed.   There's been some issues with the amount of work that he's getting done and just his attitude in general, enough that the higher level management is aware and keeping an eye on him.   He's been made aware of the situation and so far his response has been to complain and wonder why he isn't getting a promotion.   This week the project he is on had some major problems and he was told he needed to start working from the office for the next week or so.  He stated that he wasn't sure that he'd be able to make it to the first meeting at 10 am, because he had to complete his morning workout.

[Shoo]

We had a fringe group in elaborate robes that would set up pedestals near our math building and then preach about how America (where we are) is full of terrible, selfish ungodly people and how women shouldn't be allowed to go to college or get jobs. Women should be married out of high school and stay at home the rest of their lives taking care of the house and children.

This was in 2011. 

Nutcases still abound.
http://www.fixthefamily.com/blog/6-reasons-to-not-send-your-daughter-to-college

W.O.W.com

There are many religions and cultures that treat women just as horribly and hold many of the same views, but we'd be severely chastised or banned if we even thought about linking to them or talking about them.  Why is this any different?  Because it's an American group?

[ladyknight1]

A guy at DH's company is showing some professional darwinism.  He's been allowed to work from his home, with the expectation that he will come in to the office as needed.   There's been some issues with the amount of work that he's getting done and just his attitude in general, enough that the higher level management is aware and keeping an eye on him.   He's been made aware of the situation and so far his response has been to complain and wonder why he isn't getting a promotion.   This week the project he is on had some major problems and he was told he needed to start working from the office for the next week or so.  He stated that he wasn't sure that he'd be able to make it to the first meeting at 10 am, because he had to complete his morning workout.

That is the way to work yourself out of a job. 

[Sirius]

If you work at home you've got to have self-discipline.  I work from home, and I'm expected to be working on my account at a certain time.  My biggest issue is that I'm in a different state and three hours behind the office, and occasionally they forget to tell me things.  I guess that's a good thing:  I'm so reliable that no one needs to give me a second thought.  (Sigh.)

[nuit93]

If you work at home you've got to have self-discipline.  I work from home, and I'm expected to be working on my account at a certain time.  My biggest issue is that I'm in a different state and three hours behind the office, and occasionally they forget to tell me things.  I guess that's a good thing:  I'm so reliable that no one needs to give me a second thought.  (Sigh.)

We have a lot of work from home reps at my company.

One of the biggest requirements is that employees cannot be caring for their children while they are working (if they can't be home alone, they need to be cared for since the employee needs to be focused on work).  And yet whenever at-home reps need to be in the office for something, they get in a panic because 'CRUD MONKEYS! I need to arrange someone to watch my kids!'.

[siamesecat2965]

If you work at home you've got to have self-discipline.  I work from home, and I'm expected to be working on my account at a certain time.  My biggest issue is that I'm in a different state and three hours behind the office, and occasionally they forget to tell me things.  I guess that's a good thing:  I'm so reliable that no one needs to give me a second thought.  (Sigh.)

We have a lot of work from home reps at my company.

One of the biggest requirements is that employees cannot be caring for their children while they are working (if they can't be home alone, they need to be cared for since the employee needs to be focused on work).  And yet whenever at-home reps need to be in the office for something, they get in a panic because 'CRUD MONKEYS! I need to arrange someone to watch my kids!'.

Busted! Then are are some, like my one boss, who will email us to let us know she's "working from home" because she has to go to the bank, and here and there. Um, if you're out running errands, you are NOT working.

[cwm]

BF has the option to work from home occasionally. Usually when he does, he's just monitoring a situation and doesn't have to be active in the conversation, so he'll be on a group Skype chat and mute it and do whatever else he wants to do while still paying enough attention to know if he's needed.

There was one meeting like that where one guy was trying to manage three kids. His wife had apparently run out for something, but she usually watched the kids, so now he was on his own with them. His role wasn't much more active than BF's, but one of the kids was constantly unmuting the Skype conversation, so you could hear a small one screaming in the background and the two older ones running wild while this poor dad was trying to manage them all until his wife got back. It was funny, until you realized that this was his job and these were his peers and supervisors who were listening to this.

[Amara]

Wow, that link! 

I did find this line particularly "interesting": My personal impression is that the day-to-day grind of a job is below the dignity of women.

Well, okay! I could get into that. I'd love to be able to shop, hang out online, have lunch out, take an afternoon nap, swim, and read at leisure.

Oh, he doesn't mean that? He just means the day-to-day grind of a PAID job is below the dignity of women. Scrubbing the house, preparing all meals, cleaning up, keeping his clothes clean and ready, watching and raising the kids, and all that non-job stuff is well within the dignity of women? 

[Lorelei_Evil]

If you work at home you've got to have self-discipline.  I work from home, and I'm expected to be working on my account at a certain time.  My biggest issue is that I'm in a different state and three hours behind the office, and occasionally they forget to tell me things.  I guess that's a good thing:  I'm so reliable that no one needs to give me a second thought.  (Sigh.)

We have a lot of work from home reps at my company.

One of the biggest requirements is that employees cannot be caring for their children while they are working (if they can't be home alone, they need to be cared for since the employee needs to be focused on work).  And yet whenever at-home reps need to be in the office for something, they get in a panic because 'CRUD MONKEYS! I need to arrange someone to watch my kids!'.

Busted! Then are are some, like my one boss, who will email us to let us know she's "working from home" because she has to go to the bank, and here and there. Um, if you're out running errands, you are NOT working.

You worked for her too?  Didn't you just love it when she brought her kids to the office "for a few minutes" and they ran all over, tore things up, and screeched for 3 hours?  Yeah.

[Twik]

Wow, that link! 

I did find this line particularly "interesting": My personal impression is that the day-to-day grind of a job is below the dignity of women.

Well, okay! I could get into that. I'd love to be able to shop, hang out online, have lunch out, take an afternoon nap, swim, and read at leisure.

Oh, he doesn't mean that? He just means the day-to-day grind of a PAID job is below the dignity of women. Scrubbing the house, preparing all meals, cleaning up, keeping his clothes clean and ready, watching and raising the kids, and all that non-job stuff is well within the dignity of women? 

The irony, of course, is that through most of history, the vast majority of women worked a "daily grind," either directly for wages, or on the land. The idea of "the man goes out and earns money, while the wife stays home, and does no 'productive' work," is really an artifact of the 20th century, where middle-class men started to want their wives to act as if they were part of the idle rich.