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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4590 on: October 02, 2013, 07:32:01 PM »
On donated sick leave. I love the way my district does it. During the same window you sign up for insurance you can join the sick leave bank. You donate 1 day a year. If you get sick and run out of days you can get a certain number based on how many years you have been donating. No pressure to donate to the co-worker who has severe asthma in the spring but uses up her days every fall going to motorcycle rallies.




On family calling in. Sis may have saved me from an investigation if not firing. I was admitted to the hospital after showing up with an allergic reaction, chest pains, and my heart murmur being more pronounced.


When she found out, I was loopy from a bad reaction to some meds and getting sick very frequently. She called the school and told them I had been admitted to the cardiac service and that she would update them.


Turned out I had called in the absence in the middle of the night and was pretty obviously High as a kite. The people that handle subs notified my principal. She told them there was high probability that I was in a hospital (they thought I was making that up), because she knew I didn't drink and had bizarre reactions to medications before. (I have a form on file in the office that they are to give to the ambulance or ER that explains this history). I brought documentation that my behavior was due to bad reaction to ER medication.


Potential PD - I keep a card with this history with me - and I had given them the information. They still gave me a medication that should be a sedative but sends me cartwheeling into orbit. Sis showed up just in time to stop them from giving me another medication with a similar  history of reactions.



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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4591 on: October 02, 2013, 09:24:51 PM »
I had a friend who worked for a state government agency. He had a dreadful health issue while visiting his parents on a weekend. Monday, his mother called his office to tell them he would not be in. The person answering the phone said "I beg your pardon..." and immediately transferred the call to a security-sounding person. Mom, understandably a bit rattled, had managed to misdial and get the very, very private number of the governor of the state, The one he answered himself because only close friends & family used it. "Billy is sick and won't be in today" was not exactly what he was expecting to hear.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4592 on: October 02, 2013, 10:36:56 PM »
Mommy called her in sick?  In our personnel policy, it expressly states that you have to call in yourself unless you are physically incapable.  And they mean it: you better be out cold or in a med evac helicoptor.

My mother called in sick for me once.  I had a vent tube down my throat at the time. I thought that was a pretty good reason to have somebody else call my boss.

I'd call that a very good reason.  Mr. Sirius called my boss for me once, but it was because I had been hospitalized and had no way to call long distance.  Once when I had laryngitis so bad that I could barely squeak I called my boss, and once she figured out who I was and why I was calling told me I didn't have to call in again until I got some voice back.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4593 on: October 02, 2013, 10:47:17 PM »
I had a coworker's wife call and ask me to tell her husband that he couldn't come to work that day.

He was in the ER with a leaking heart valve, but he was insisting on coming in despite the doctor's telling him not to. I told him if he came in I'd pick him up and carry him home. He knew I'd do it too. He did not come in that day.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4594 on: October 02, 2013, 11:15:14 PM »
I called DH's employer once for him, not just to say "He won't be in today" but "You know that business trip to the UK next week?  Yeah, he isn't going on that.  He's in the hospital hooked up to monitors and waiting for bypass surgery."
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4595 on: October 03, 2013, 12:29:03 AM »
I wish my manager would stop letting my coworker get away with, well, not hardly doing anything.  She made a joke about "What would you guys do without me here?" and I couldn't help but think "The same thing we do with you here - since you don't really do much of the work."  I couldn't really come up with a sincere and nice response...I swear she must be blackmailing the management to still have her job.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4596 on: October 03, 2013, 02:32:39 AM »
My sister called in sick for me one day- I had food poisoning.

This was many many years ago,  before cellphones and when older houses -as ours was - usually had one phone and they were hardwired so you couldn't move them from room to room. I was upstairs; the phone was downstairs.

The boss intimated that food poisoning was maybe a not good excuse. My sister -who is ruthless when she has to be- pointed out that constant vomiting is not what customers at a fast food restaurant want to see. They got into it further and the boss finally agreed that I was calling in. Then she told my sister that I should be the one calling in. Thoroughly fed up my sister snapped "she would if she could make it downstairs to the phone without throwing up!"

Thus my passed my first day with a new store manager. Needless to say she never warmed up to me.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4597 on: October 03, 2013, 01:11:24 PM »
Has anyone seen this video?
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2013/09/30/marina-v-shifrin-mizzou-grad-quits-job-with-dancing-video

Journalism graduate has a job working for a company that makes news videos.  She's been there about 2 years, She's 'put her whole life into this job' but her boss only cares about the number of videos and the number of views.  She's outraged at this devaluation of the journalism profession.

To express her views, she made a short video of herself dancing in the office and posted it on the internet, with the message 'I quit'.  Way to handle yourself in a mature, professional manner.  I wonder how many top news agencies will be pounding down her door?

She's got a job offer:
http://shine.yahoo.com/secrets-to-your-success/i-quit-girl-lands-job-offer-165556646.html

Granted, it probably was offered partially for the publicity for the show it is generating, but it sounds like an honest offer.  And I like Queen Latifah too much to think she'd make the offer and then ruin it behind the scenes.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4598 on: October 07, 2013, 09:02:07 AM »
My teacher friend has the best stories. Iím sure I donít mind not having any of my own.  :)

One of her co-workers finally got fired. This older, sexist, racist teacher had a habit of send out emails to the entire department, ranting about how awful the kids were today. This never got him in trouble. So how was he finally fired? The latest email, he NAMED NAMES and identified each child as Future Drug Dealer, Future Prostitute, Mostly Likely to End up on Death Row, etc.  :o My friend is not sad heís gone.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4599 on: October 07, 2013, 01:24:07 PM »
My teacher friend has the best stories. Iím sure I donít mind not having any of my own.  :)

One of her co-workers finally got fired. This older, sexist, racist teacher had a habit of send out emails to the entire department, ranting about how awful the kids were today. This never got him in trouble. So how was he finally fired? The latest email, he NAMED NAMES and identified each child as Future Drug Dealer, Future Prostitute, Mostly Likely to End up on Death Row, etc.  :o My friend is not sad heís gone.

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Wow...

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4600 on: October 07, 2013, 01:49:06 PM »
Speaking of government employees, my father has a coworker who might not be trying to commit PD, but it sure looks odd.

Dad works for Large Government Organization, with a union. Said LGO and union have a VERY generous leave policy. As in, Dad has only been there for eight years and already has six or seven weeks of leave (sick and vacation) he can take every year. I can only imagine what the lifers have. Also, you can roll it over from year to year without issue, and can cash out up to six weeks when you retire as a nice going away present. Like I said, very generous.

Dad has a coworker who has been with the LGO for years longer than Dad. And this coworker uses up all of his sick and vacation time Every Single Year. Okay, that in and of itself isnít so bad. Itís his time, he can do with it what he will. But then he also take a few weeks of unpaid leave. To do things like a Bible camp with his children Ė a vacation, or at least something that can be accounted for a while in advance. This year, he has to have surgery. Itís September, heís already used up all his time. So instead of putting in for that unpaid leave like usual, he asks other employees to donate their time, b/c, you know, this was so unexpected (knee surgery, I think), and he canít handle this much time unpaid.

Dad declined donating time.

Update on this gem.

He's off for his surgery. People have donated time to him so he can continue to be paid. And what does he post to Facebook? How he's going on vacation. I'm sure the union will do nothing.

(I think this might irk dad even more than most b/c he specifically avoided going Out of State with Mom while he was out after knee surgery, not b/c he was physically unable, but b/c he was on workerís comp and didnít want to temp a fraud suit.)

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4601 on: October 08, 2013, 07:29:12 AM »
Speaking of government employees, my father has a coworker who might not be trying to commit PD, but it sure looks odd.

Dad works for Large Government Organization, with a union. Said LGO and union have a VERY generous leave policy. As in, Dad has only been there for eight years and already has six or seven weeks of leave (sick and vacation) he can take every year. I can only imagine what the lifers have. Also, you can roll it over from year to year without issue, and can cash out up to six weeks when you retire as a nice going away present. Like I said, very generous.

Dad has a coworker who has been with the LGO for years longer than Dad. And this coworker uses up all of his sick and vacation time Every Single Year. Okay, that in and of itself isnít so bad. Itís his time, he can do with it what he will. But then he also take a few weeks of unpaid leave. To do things like a Bible camp with his children Ė a vacation, or at least something that can be accounted for a while in advance. This year, he has to have surgery. Itís September, heís already used up all his time. So instead of putting in for that unpaid leave like usual, he asks other employees to donate their time, b/c, you know, this was so unexpected (knee surgery, I think), and he canít handle this much time unpaid.

Dad declined donating time.

Update on this gem.

He's off for his surgery. People have donated time to him so he can continue to be paid. And what does he post to Facebook? How he's going on vacation. I'm sure the union will do nothing.

(I think this might irk dad even more than most b/c he specifically avoided going Out of State with Mom while he was out after knee surgery, not b/c he was physically unable, but b/c he was on workerís comp and didnít want to temp a fraud suit.)

Personally I would demand my donated time back! This will sour everyone on donating ever again and will punish those who truly need the help.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4602 on: October 08, 2013, 01:31:30 PM »
Went to a pizza buffet for lunch, where the waitresses bring unlimited drinks and plates of salad to your table. My parents quietly commented, after our drink orders were taken, "Oh no.  :( Dad and I had this waitress the other day. She never came back. Had to point out to her we wanted drink and salad refills." Uh-oh. We were barely through with the first helpings when our waitress dumped the check on the table and said "Here's the bill. Pay at the counter whenever you want. Have a nice day." Dad had to flag her down as she was quickly walking away then! She never offered salad or drink refills, until we waved her over. She dropped off the refills and left. And waitresses at this buffet always ask if you want a to-go drink cup or a dessert order; she skipped that, too. The restaurant wasn't even crowded. None of us will sit in her section again  :P

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4603 on: October 08, 2013, 01:48:51 PM »
My sister called in sick for me one day- I had food poisoning.

This was many many years ago,  before cellphones and when older houses -as ours was - usually had one phone and they were hardwired so you couldn't move them from room to room. I was upstairs; the phone was downstairs.

The boss intimated that food poisoning was maybe a not good excuse. My sister -who is ruthless when she has to be- pointed out that constant vomiting is not what customers at a fast food restaurant want to see. They got into it further and the boss finally agreed that I was calling in. Then she told my sister that I should be the one calling in. Thoroughly fed up my sister snapped "she would if she could make it downstairs to the phone without throwing up!"

Thus my passed my first day with a new store manager. Needless to say she never warmed up to me.

I've been fired from a sum total of one job. I was working at the alumni center at college and got shingles. I couldn't leave the dorm room except to go to the ER for pain. I called in the first day after I got diagnosed and spoke with a student supervisor. I told them that I was contagious and couldn't come in to work, that I would provide them with a doctor's note upon my return. Not a problem, I was told.

My evening shift comes, and I get a phone call. I'm passed out from pain and miss it. Check my voicemail, it's my manager wanting to know where I am. I call her back and repeat the conversation I had with the student supervisor earlier that afternoon. "Oh, well, she never mentioned it or wrote a note for me. I'm going to have to count this as an unexcused absence."

Okay, fine, I tell her again (second time I've told her, third time I've told someone in a supervisory position working there) that I will not be in until the doctor clears me as non-contagious and I can actually sit up and speak without extreme pain. I'm told that will be satisfactory, as long as I can produce a doctor's note when I come back. Okay, great. Pass out again.

The next day I had a morning shift (weird for a call center, but I did work with mailings as well). Third manager calls me, higher than the other two, wondering where I am. I explain both of the conversations I'd had the previous day, explain a fourth time that I am contagious, cannot come in to work and will provide a doctor's note when I return. Third manager has no notes from previous two supervisors, and since I didn't call before my shift and let her know, this would be an unexcused absence, but both absences will be forgiven when I return with a doctor's note.

The next evening, I had another shift. The second manager called me again wondering where I was. As though shingles clears up over two days. I explain to her a third time that I cannot come in. I am sick. I will let them know when the doctor clears me for work again.

The next day I was let go because of multiple unexcused absences and refusal to come in to work when told to. At that point I was too sick to fight it, so I waited until I healed and found another job.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4604 on: October 08, 2013, 05:41:29 PM »
Speaking of government employees, my father has a coworker who might not be trying to commit PD, but it sure looks odd.

Dad works for Large Government Organization, with a union. Said LGO and union have a VERY generous leave policy. As in, Dad has only been there for eight years and already has six or seven weeks of leave (sick and vacation) he can take every year. I can only imagine what the lifers have. Also, you can roll it over from year to year without issue, and can cash out up to six weeks when you retire as a nice going away present. Like I said, very generous.

Dad has a coworker who has been with the LGO for years longer than Dad. And this coworker uses up all of his sick and vacation time Every Single Year. Okay, that in and of itself isnít so bad. Itís his time, he can do with it what he will. But then he also take a few weeks of unpaid leave. To do things like a Bible camp with his children Ė a vacation, or at least something that can be accounted for a while in advance. This year, he has to have surgery. Itís September, heís already used up all his time. So instead of putting in for that unpaid leave like usual, he asks other employees to donate their time, b/c, you know, this was so unexpected (knee surgery, I think), and he canít handle this much time unpaid.

Dad declined donating time.

Update on this gem.

He's off for his surgery. People have donated time to him so he can continue to be paid. And what does he post to Facebook? How he's going on vacation. I'm sure the union will do nothing.

(I think this might irk dad even more than most b/c he specifically avoided going Out of State with Mom while he was out after knee surgery, not b/c he was physically unable, but b/c he was on workerís comp and didnít want to temp a fraud suit.)
Wait a gosh darned minute ... He's using donated sick leave to go on vacation?  "Go on vacation" as in "leave the area to have fun somewhere else"?  Forget about the union.  I don't think they fix this kind of stuff.  I think I would take a screen shot of that Facebook page in to HR and tell them I want my donated sick leave back since I donated it to this fool so he could have knee surgery, not so he could "recouperate" in Cabo San Lucas.
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