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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4755 on: November 05, 2013, 04:08:50 PM »
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yeah, I hate to say it, but I would almost rather have him back and stealing...the place is absolutely filthy again.

The best cleaner I ever had was, alas, also a thief.  If it had only been five bucks here and there, I might have looked the other way.  But she stole $160 from my then eight-year-old daughter's bedroom (she was saving for an iPod), and THAT I just couldn't overlook.

Siiiigghh, I still miss Rose Marie.  She actually volunteered to clean out my oven - a job I absolutely hate!

I was reading CustomersSuck yesterday for the first time in many months and there were quite a few posts from those who work in hotels. What those people and what Yarnspinner posted were quite similar: what those engaged in illegal activities like thieves and drug dealers seem to have in common is politeness and diligence beyond those of the usual customers/employees. It's not surprising; they don't want to draw attention to themselves so other than performing their illegal acts they tend to be quite nice. No one wants to have their lucrative activity stopped in order to indulge in being a special snowflake.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4756 on: November 05, 2013, 06:31:40 PM »
Probably the form of PD that irritates me the most, and has happened twice in the past year.      As we're not a giant company, most staff have a bit of interaction with the CEO (my boss) but generally their jobs don't intersect a lot day by day.   But occasionally I'll hire a staff member who for specific reasons has more interaction with her, for example an administrator who I assign to help boss with some paperwork.   And occasionally, they seem to get it into their heads that sucking up to her is the way to success in their job.    At the expense of actually listening to me, their manager, or following instructions I've given them.     I guess it's a reasonable assumption - the CEO is also the founder and owner, so yes she has final say over everything here.   But I have full authority over my department, and while I will take into account her feedback (as to whether she is getting what she needs from my team, and her observations) ultimately it's my decision who is hired and fired.    My boss thinks this is important because how can she hold me accountable if she is constantly undermining me or making decisions for me?   Plus she wants the company to run well, so even if she liked a particular individual she's not going to insist I keep them on if they're not doing their job.

The funny thing is that they don't seem to realise that tasks I give my staff have often come either directly or indirectly from boss too - so by ignoring my requests or failing to do what I ask properly they are annoying her as much as me!   Plus, boss and I talk constantly about everything that's happening.   So their attempts to suck up are actually professional darwinism.   Remember the rule - if you want to get ahead in business make your boss look good! I'm not power crazy, and I don't need anybody stroking my ego, but for goodness sake if I tell you to do something either discuss why you can't or ask for help, don't ignore me. Because then I get frustrated and you get a black mark against your name for poor communication.  ::)

Don't get me wrong, my team overall is fantastic - I hire wonderful people and we give them lots of training and support to ensure expectations are clear and they enjoy their work - which they do, they have so much fun in there!   And we weed out the bad ones very quickly as I don't think it's fair on anybody to have to work alongside people who are lazy or have a bad attitude.   
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4757 on: November 05, 2013, 09:20:30 PM »
At a Halloween waltz party back in college, one person decided to go for shock value and came as Hitler.

Rob

Bet that went over well. :P

Anyone remember when Prince Harry dressed as a Nazi officer for a party?

Didn't he get sent away to military school or something right after that as a result?

MariaE

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4758 on: November 05, 2013, 11:55:58 PM »
At a Halloween waltz party back in college, one person decided to go for shock value and came as Hitler.

Rob

Bet that went over well. :P

Anyone remember when Prince Harry dressed as a Nazi officer for a party?

Didn't he get sent away to military school or something right after that as a result?

There's a time and a place for everything. Allo Allo party? Dressing as a Nazi officer is ok. "Hero's and Villains" party? Dressing as a nazi is ok. Anything else? Stay far, far away!

Although if you're royalty or in other ways part of the public eye you should probably stay far, far away no matter what.
 
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FauxFoodist

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4759 on: November 06, 2013, 12:36:13 AM »
At a Halloween waltz party back in college, one person decided to go for shock value and came as Hitler.

Rob

Bet that went over well. :P

Anyone remember when Prince Harry dressed as a Nazi officer for a party?

Didn't he get sent away to military school or something right after that as a result?

There's a time and a place for everything. Allo Allo party? Dressing as a Nazi officer is ok. "Hero's and Villains" party? Dressing as a nazi is ok. Anything else? Stay far, far away!

Although if you're royalty or in other ways part of the public eye you should probably stay far, far away no matter what.

I think there are some villains you should just stay away from, period, like Nazis or the KKK (or, if you must, then maybe not going out in public places in such costumes might be best).

Agreed about being royalty or some other role where behavior is under close scrutiny.  It may not be "fair," but there are things that not everyone can get away with doing/being.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4760 on: November 06, 2013, 12:39:09 AM »
A satirical TV show The Chaser did once dress up as Germans to try and "reinvade Poland" by entering a Polish club. First as stereotypical Germans in lederhausen, then as Nazis then as Hitler. But they were known for doing crazy stuff like that, like when they had the Trojan Horse.

And as for taboos, I think it would be a sad world indeed if we didn't laugh some things. Even Nazis . Just ask Mel Brooks and Charlie Chaplin.

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« Reply #4761 on: November 06, 2013, 01:03:31 AM »
A satirical TV show The Chaser did once dress up as Germans to try and "reinvade Poland" by entering a Polish club. First as stereotypical Germans in lederhausen, then as Nazis then as Hitler. But they were known for doing crazy stuff like that, like when they had the Trojan Horse.

And as for taboos, I think it would be a sad world indeed if we didn't laugh some things. Even Nazis . Just ask Mel Brooks and Charlie Chaplin.

There are some areas where you have to tread lightly and know your audience.

Years ago, I saw a play whose ending was a little confusing.  I think it was by a well-known absurdist playwright (whose name escapes me at the moment).  The ending involved the characters trying to figure out how to leave a house with a body without anyone suspecting anything.  I was confused because two of the characters walked out with red bands on their arms with some insignia on it that looked like "SS" and carrying a stretcher with a covered body on it.  I was a little confused and later learned that the insignia was originally supposed to be a swastika (which is what I suspected but definitely was not a swastika) and the idea is that no one would question the dead body because they were Nazi soldiers.  However, one of the actors was a bit elderly (this occurred 20 years ago) and, I believe, was old enough to have lived through and remember WWII (I also think she was Jewish).  She absolutely refused to proceed with the play with these characters definitely being Nazi soldiers so the director made the change to accommodate her.  It made it confusing for the audience, but I understood the director's decision.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4762 on: November 06, 2013, 01:11:01 AM »
A satirical TV show The Chaser did once dress up as Germans to try and "reinvade Poland" by entering a Polish club. First as stereotypical Germans in lederhausen, then as Nazis then as Hitler. But they were known for doing crazy stuff like that, like when they had the Trojan Horse.

And as for taboos, I think it would be a sad world indeed if we didn't laugh some things. Even Nazis . Just ask Mel Brooks and Charlie Chaplin.

And now I have the Springtime song from the Producers in my head.  The remake version, where John Barrowman is singing.  Thank you!  ;D



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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4763 on: November 06, 2013, 01:12:36 AM »
I can tell you a funny story about the KKK, and a true one according to my American history teacher.  One year the wives of the Klan members refused to make the costumes from white sheets. So the men had to make do with bed sheets. And not all were white, but had pastels, stripes, spots and florals.

I know the history of them, and how awful they are. But I just think it's hilarious they were jumping about in bright colours and patterns. And sort of ironic if you think about it for a bit.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4764 on: November 06, 2013, 01:31:51 AM »
I can tell you a funny story about the KKK, and a true one according to my American history teacher.  One year the wives of the Klan members refused to make the costumes from white sheets. So the men had to make do with bed sheets. And not all were white, but had pastels, stripes, spots and florals.

I know the history of them, and how awful they are. But I just think it's hilarious they were jumping about in bright colours and patterns. And sort of ironic if you think about it for a bit.

Slightly O/T -- DH had a relative (I think his great-grandmother) who, for some reason, the local KKK decided they needed to make an example of for something by terrorizing her home one evening.  DH said, however, she recognized them, even in their hoods (I don't remember how), and yelled at them, calling them out by name, and stating, "How dare you attack me, a widow alone with her children (or something like that -- I don't remember her exact status)!  Get out of here!"  The KKK members retreated and said "Sorry, DH's great-grandmother" and left.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4765 on: November 06, 2013, 07:18:35 AM »
At a Halloween waltz party back in college, one person decided to go for shock value and came as Hitler.

Rob

Bet that went over well. :P

Anyone remember when Prince Harry dressed as a Nazi officer for a party?

He was booed out of the room. Of course, that he came in doing the Nazi salute didn't exactly help matters.

Rob
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4766 on: November 06, 2013, 07:37:57 AM »
We can add to this list the Michigan girl who dressed as an injured Boston Marathon bombing victim for Halloween. She said there was nothing to be ashamed of, because she wasn't dressed as somebody dead or with limbs hanging off  ??? She lost her job because of this

Or the guys who dressed as George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, including blackface. What goes through peoples' minds?

They've learned that being "edgy" and "pushing the envelope" is what it's all about. That's what popular culture tells us, anyway - offensive is cool. They don't tell you that it only works if you're a celebrity.

And sometimes, not even then.

There's "edgy" and then there is 100% pure tasteless.

Well, that's it - you have to know how to balance on that line. Unfortunately, there is a lot of entertainment out there that also does not seem to know that fine balance.

Yup.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20749699,00.html

http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/10/29/laverne-cox-julianne-hough-blackface/

There's an article in one of the papers today about two UK clubbers who went to a Halloween costume competition... as the Twin Towers.

Planes sticking out, fire painted on and all.

It gets worse. They won.

I'm hoping some heads roll over this one...
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4767 on: November 06, 2013, 07:49:29 AM »
I can tell you a funny story about the KKK, and a true one according to my American history teacher.  One year the wives of the Klan members refused to make the costumes from white sheets. So the men had to make do with bed sheets. And not all were white, but had pastels, stripes, spots and florals.

I know the history of them, and how awful they are. But I just think it's hilarious they were jumping about in bright colours and patterns. And sort of ironic if you think about it for a bit.

We looked at a house in a somewhat rural town 45 minutes from where I live now. The town is great, we really liked most everything, until we saw the local KKK hangout and restaurant. The letters are spelled out in the name, but it is definitely intended for the KKK group members and not the average citizen.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4768 on: November 06, 2013, 08:01:24 AM »
7 of the Worst Resumés Ever

Listing a previous job as "Marijuana dealer & nefarious dude," for example, may not be a good career move. Says the article, "Let this be a reminder that you don't have to include every job you've ever had."

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This overeager jobseeker noticed the Technical Director of a company had died, and then mistook that as a chance to get his foot in the door by applying for the deceased’s job. His cover letter stated “Each time I apply for a job, I get a reply that there’s no vacancy but in this case I have caught you red-handed and you have no excuse because I even attended the funeral to be sure that he was truly dead and buried before applying.”

He then attached a copy of the man’s death certificate along with his resume. Yup. Just let that classiness wash over you for a second.
The article has links to original stories about the resumés

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #4769 on: November 06, 2013, 08:17:55 AM »
A school principal in my area has been fired for dressing up as Mr. T for Hallowe'en.

And yet, the mayor of Toronto still has a job.   ::)
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