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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5415 on: February 25, 2014, 03:41:46 PM »

OurBoss is now enforcing draconian process requirements on Mr16Y with what almost feels like something close to spitefulness.

"You missed that particular deadline by 3 hours. Declined. Resubmit."


It sounds as though Mr16Y is on a formal performance improvement plan.

Sounds that way to me, too...and about time, if you ask me!
I overheard Mr16Y chatting to two of his work buddies about "There eventually comes a time when you start to feel like you're stagnating". I don't know if that's a sign he's looking for another job, or he's trying to talk his two buddies into leaving (or both).

I'm not entirely sure what Mr16Y is actually working on right now. He refuses to work on one task after coming to a standstill with a certain boss about what needs to be done, and had other tasks taken away from him and given to another team member after he refused to make the extra change he was told to. I'm pretty sure not doing your job is grounds for some kind of action. How is this guy still working here?!  :(


I keep coming to this thread hoping to see an update on Mr16Y from Wolfway. Pout.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5416 on: February 25, 2014, 10:00:20 PM »
I keep coming to this thread hoping to see an update on Mr16Y from Wolfway. Pout.
Hehehe...

Let's just say forces are aligning against him...

One  particularly tricky (i.e. very detail orientated) project has two interested parties in other departments who are pushing to have this assigned to Mr16Y. Their reason? They want to micromanage the snot out of him to either push him to do something, or else document that he isn't working. Apparently their wish was granted (I'm learning this all through dicussions with another coworker, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of any third hand information). One of them in particular has a tendency to summarily fire people who displease him, so he might be itching to do what our own department seems reluctant to do (or maybe he just knows a better way to do it).

Mr16 has been applying madly for jobs. He takes calls from recruiters in our open plan office and while he tries to be nonspecific about what he is dicussing with the recruiters, his veiled vagueness is not as veiled or as vague as he thinks it is. Unfortunately he can't seem to find anyone to take him off our hands.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5417 on: February 25, 2014, 11:30:08 PM »
I keep coming to this thread hoping to see an update on Mr16Y from Wolfway. Pout.
Hehehe...

Let's just say forces are aligning against him...

One  particularly tricky (i.e. very detail orientated) project has two interested parties in other departments who are pushing to have this assigned to Mr16Y. Their reason? They want to micromanage the snot out of him to either push him to do something, or else document that he isn't working. Apparently their wish was granted (I'm learning this all through dicussions with another coworker, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of any third hand information). One of them in particular has a tendency to summarily fire people who displease him, so he might be itching to do what our own department seems reluctant to do (or maybe he just knows a better way to do it).

Mr16 has been applying madly for jobs. He takes calls from recruiters in our open plan office and while he tries to be nonspecific about what he is dicussing with the recruiters, his veiled vagueness is not as veiled or as vague as he thinks it is. Unfortunately he can't seem to find anyone to take him off our hands.

See I would totally offer to be a reference for him and I'd make sure it was GLOWING

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5418 on: February 26, 2014, 03:44:27 AM »
UPDATE on Mr16Y....

He just sent us all a "Today is my last day here. Thank you and goodbye email". I have no idea what happened.  ???

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5419 on: February 26, 2014, 04:53:45 AM »
oooh. If you find out, let us know!

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« Reply #5420 on: February 26, 2014, 05:40:17 AM »
oooh. If you find out, let us know!
I suspect the whole tattle-taling report to HR by OtherTeamBoss was the final straw they needed to let him go. Will let my work friend (who knows everything about everyone) do some digging, then get the story from her.  ;) Odds are we might never know the specific reasons, company is very good about not blabbing about those sorts of details.
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« Reply #5421 on: February 26, 2014, 05:52:41 AM »
oooh. If you find out, let us know!
I suspect the whole tattle-taling report to HR by OtherTeamBoss was the final straw they needed to let him go. Will let my work friend (who knows everything about everyone) do some digging, then get the story from her.  ;) Odds are we might never know the specific reasons, company is very good about not blabbing about those sorts of details.
Ah. a bit more info.

Mr16Y was called in for an HR meeting about the whole tattle-taling and half way through, he just resigned. They said he didn't have to work the entire period, so he's out.
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« Reply #5422 on: February 26, 2014, 09:27:30 AM »
It sounds as though there may be partying in several department tonight.

I wonder whether he was hoping they'd beg him to stay, when he resigned?
(I once worked with a Drama Llama who threatened to resign. I have never seen anyone back-pedal so fast as when her boss replied "OK, You'll need to confirm that formally to [manager] to confirm your notice period and work you if you have any holiday pay owing" Sadly she only threatened to resign, she didn't actually do it.)

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« Reply #5423 on: February 26, 2014, 10:11:30 AM »
That ended with a whimper, which is probably better for all involved.

We have our own PD candidate who has taken ownership of a project too far. I was brought in to a special team to help with organization and ensure regular updates are made from a central location. This was brought up in two face to face meetings and over several emails so that everyone would know.

I have been sending out the updates on a weekly basis, and suddenly Ms PD had a tantrum. She claims she was never informed, even though she was present at those meetings and included on the emails. She not only went to the technical director of special project, she sent a very emotional email to me. Now head honcho is involved and is considering making an executive decision to remove Ms PD from the project all together. Did I mention that Ms PD is a temporary employee?
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5424 on: February 26, 2014, 02:16:54 PM »
Mr16Y was called in for an HR meeting about the whole tattle-taling and half way through, he just resigned. They said he didn't have to work the entire period, so he's out.

I had an evil manager quit like this once.  She hated just about everybody in the department (including me -- upon meeting me, I noticed she gave me quite the hateful glare).  She was in the dept director's office and, I was told, referring to everyone as female dogs.  It was "female dogs" this and "female dogs" that.  Dept Director called her on it and commented that she really didn't seem to like her job.  Evil Manager said she didn't.  I think Dept Director asked why doesn't she quit.  Evil Manager agreed to that.  Dept Director told her she didn't need to stay any longer, and Evil Manager left.  I just recall coming in to work one day, and Evil Manager was gone (I was very glad because she did her best to try to make me quit as she couldn't fire me; I never did anything wrong).  Dept Director was an idiot and unpleasant person, too, and I always looked at this as one of her incredibly stupid decisions that did not come to a good end.  I was so happy the day I left that company (and, I was happy to say, of my own volition).


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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5425 on: February 26, 2014, 04:27:32 PM »
It sounds as though there may be partying in several department tonight.

I wonder whether he was hoping they'd beg him to stay, when he resigned?
(I once worked with a Drama Llama who threatened to resign. I have never seen anyone back-pedal so fast as when her boss replied "OK, You'll need to confirm that formally to [manager] to confirm your notice period and work you if you have any holiday pay owing" Sadly she only threatened to resign, she didn't actually do it.)
A few years ago, my supervisor's boss (BigBoss) did that -- in a meeting with the business President and Vice President -- but took the additional step of declaring that all of his subordinates were going to resign as well in a show of solidarity (unbeknownst to all of us). um...no, we are not. BigBoss was ultimately fired several months later and he tried to sue for various bogus claims. The judge was not impressed when my supervisor testified about that little incident.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5426 on: February 26, 2014, 07:47:32 PM »
...  Dept Director called her on it and commented that she really didn't seem to like her job.  Evil Manager said she didn't.  I think Dept Director asked why doesn't she quit.  Evil Manager agreed to that.  Dept Director told her she didn't need to stay any longer, and Evil Manager left.  I just recall coming in to work one day, and Evil Manager was gone (I was very glad because she did her best to try to make me quit as she couldn't fire me; I never did anything wrong).  Dept Director was an idiot and unpleasant person, too, and I always looked at this as one of her incredibly stupid decisions that did not come to a good end.  I was so happy the day I left that company (and, I was happy to say, of my own volition).

I'm confused.  Even if (or especially if) Dept Director was also an idiot, I would think that allowing the Evil Manager to leave would have been one of her smarter moves.  Sounds like it came to the best end you could hope for!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5427 on: February 26, 2014, 09:03:35 PM »
A bit of background first: I work in a BSL3 lab. This type of lab is for working with highly infectious pathogens and as a result is very specifically designed. For example, all air in and out is filtered through Hepa filters and the rooms are negatively pressured so that if doors are opened outside air is sucked in. We do all work with infectious agents in specially designed cabinets that use air pressure to keep pathogens in and everything else out. Not surprisingly, this requires a lot of power and since it's so risky, we've got a back-up generator. Campus facilities and maintenance crews aren't allowed to touch anything without giving us a week's notice.

Last week the HVAC crew decided to shut down our air systems, regular power and back-up power without any warning. Fortunately nobody was working with any pathogens right then, but we raised heck to make it very clear that this was completely unacceptable. You would think they learned their lesson, but today it happened again. Once again, we were lucky that nobody had any pathogens open, but that type of move could have risked infecting our lab workers with some not so nice diseases.

I thought my normally mild-mannered boss was going to have a stroke or aneurysm when we left him to ream out a whole lot of people.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5428 on: February 27, 2014, 12:07:15 AM »
A bit of background first: I work in a BSL3 lab. This type of lab is for working with highly infectious pathogens and as a result is very specifically designed. For example, all air in and out is filtered through Hepa filters and the rooms are negatively pressured so that if doors are opened outside air is sucked in. We do all work with infectious agents in specially designed cabinets that use air pressure to keep pathogens in and everything else out. Not surprisingly, this requires a lot of power and since it's so risky, we've got a back-up generator. Campus facilities and maintenance crews aren't allowed to touch anything without giving us a week's notice.

Last week the HVAC crew decided to shut down our air systems, regular power and back-up power without any warning. Fortunately nobody was working with any pathogens right then, but we raised heck to make it very clear that this was completely unacceptable. You would think they learned their lesson, but today it happened again. Once again, we were lucky that nobody had any pathogens open, but that type of move could have risked infecting our lab workers with some not so nice diseases.

I thought my normally mild-mannered boss was going to have a stroke or aneurysm when we left him to ream out a whole lot of people.

What is it with HVAC/maintenance services at academic institutions not understanding how important it is that certain buildings function at 100% at all times?  I work in a building which has ONE classroom, a few dozen offices, and our server farms - big rooms full of very big stacks of very important computers that generate a lot of heat.  My coworkers and I staff the building 24/7.  Now, the server farms do have their own independently operating air conditioning systems, but our office does not.  Furthermore, if the server room cooling systems have to cool the rooms down from the outside air temperature instead of the cooler temperature produced by the building cooling system, they tend to end up overworked and fail.  Some bright bulb in our maintenance department decided that since students stop having classes in the building in the early afternoon in the summer, they should set the building's air conditioning system to turn off after the students leave.  This action ended up causing some heat-related malfunctions of our server stacks...which are very expensive.  They thought they were saving money...

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5429 on: February 27, 2014, 08:19:33 AM »
This woman worked for the Department of Children and Families and falsified home visit records. Her reported visits were on days she didn't work.

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/former-department-of-children-and-families-worker-arrested-on-charges-of-falsifying-records/24705534
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