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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5865 on: June 10, 2014, 04:35:51 PM »
$5 actually -$6 for a Corona.

More on my now-former-new-coworker's PD:  He lied on his application, and fell asleep at his desk in front of the boss.  She had five pages of documented problems with this guy!

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5866 on: June 11, 2014, 03:54:28 AM »
Those prices actually sound reasonable in Australia. $6-7 is what DH told me was average for a beer.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5867 on: June 11, 2014, 04:16:46 AM »
Those prices actually sound reasonable in Australia. $6-7 is what DH told me was average for a beer.

They're reasonable in some areas of the country, like the extremely wealthy area the chain's original locations are in.  However, like ladyknight said - this is not that kind of market.  The beers they offer by the bottle for $6 can often be had in pitchers for $5 around here.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5868 on: June 11, 2014, 06:43:08 PM »
I don't remember all of the details, but the store actually had a **dress code** for customers.  It wasn't one of those "no shirts, no shoes" things, either.  Women were supposed to wear high heels, I think, and no running shoes were allowed.  There were other stipulations, too, that I don't remember.  I wasn't surprised that the store closed so quickly.

There was a store in a sketchier part of my hometown (Airline Blvd in Portsmouth, for any Hampton Roads people) that was sort of like JC Penney's or Sears. Mom and I walked in one time, were told "You must leave your purses at the counter to shop" and we said "Forget that, bye." For an antique / breakables shop, I'm fine with leaving my purse in the car trunk. To shop for clothes, though, nope, that's over the top  ::)

There was a post here way back about package delivery drivers. It was something like "We would get penalized for taking too long to deliver. Some drivers purposely drop packages at wrong addresses so they don't get dinged for time + there's a bonus for redelivering packages." I had never experienced that problem, until today. I saw a FedEx truck pull up in front of my yard. I could see from the porch the driver was moving lots of packages around. So then he went behind the truck, pulled out a really long, heavy package & spent quite a bit of time reading the label before using his scanner. He brought the box to the porch & said "Can you carry it in ? It's quite heavy." I thought "Oh wow, this box is huge! It's taller than me! I'm not expecting anything. Ooh, it's probably one of my contest prizes!" I was about to cart the box inside and rip it open, but then I noticed the address label. Instead of "Team Bhakta, 1000 Main Street" it said "Mitzy Jones-Green, 9735 Street Around The Block." Oh wait, where did that driver go ? He sure did run away awful fast! "*waves at truck* Sir, oh, Sir! *waves frantically* This isn't my package. You gave me someone else's package. This package is for someone named Mitzy Jones-Green on SATB. That isn't me. This is Main Street. SATB is that street over there." "What do you mean ?" "(Are you scrabbling with me, buddy ?  ???) This package is for someone on SATB. This package does not belong to me." And then he gave me one of those weird, fake laughs people do when you're caught red handed but want to palm it off as an accident. "Oh wow, it does say SATB. How did that happen ? I guess I grabbed the wrong package. I better go look in the truck again *comes back right away with correct tiny box*"  ::)
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5869 on: June 11, 2014, 09:09:53 PM »
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I don't remember all of the details, but the store actually had a **dress code** for customers.  It wasn't one of those "no shirts, no shoes" things, either.  Women were supposed to wear high heels, I think, and no running shoes were allowed.  There were other stipulations, too, that I don't remember.  I wasn't surprised that the store closed so quickly.

Harrods in London was notorious for its dress code in the 1990s. Their security guards would turn away people dressed too casually or "inappropriately." Wikipedia mentions a soldier in uniform, a scout troop, a woman with a mohican hair cut, a 15 stone (95 kg) woman and a Ukrainian football (soccer) team for wearing tracksuits Harrods said it was because the group as too large).

Now they just say "Refrain from wearing clothing which may reveal intimate parts of the body, or which portrays offensive pictures or writing"

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5870 on: June 12, 2014, 04:26:59 PM »
Heavens, I kind of want to nominate me & my coworkers right now.

I work with 5 women. We're all a part of the same department. Ever since our boss left a month ago, one of them (Cindy) has been trying to become our spokesperson/be in charge of us. Cindy is amazing at her job, but terrible at any kind of management. She's PA, she's forgetful, she doesn't read all of her emails, she takes things personally, the list goes on & on.

Anyways, Big Boss (used to be our boss's boss, is now our boss), gave Cindy a project. We're all to weigh in & do research, but it's Cindy's project. Cindy seems to think that means that she dictates what we do, and we're supposed to write things up for her. Um, no. It's your project, you're the one who presents it, you're the one who write it up. So we're currently at a stalemate because she keeps telling me & one other coworker (we're the youngest; Cindy is in her early 50s) to get it all written up for her, and we keep pushing back & saying "No, this is your project, we've sent you all our research, you need to put it together and read over it & make sure it makes sense". And & then says "If you type it & print it & give it to me, I'll look at it & then make corrections for you". And again, we say "No, it's your project, you do it".

(Just to be clear, we are all equals. We all have the same position. So there is no reason why Cindy should think we're doing this).

Anyways, we need to present this to Big Boss before he leaves, and we're now at a stalemate, because we're not doing it for her, and she won't do it. Incredibly stupid, I know, but we're all willing to make this a hill that we die on, because we're so sick of her trying to tell us what to do & acting like she is our boss.  :-\ >:(
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5871 on: June 12, 2014, 04:38:09 PM »
Can you not tell the big boss beforehand, to clue him in?

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5872 on: June 12, 2014, 05:40:46 PM »
Speaking of the burger joints, a place recently opened up around the corner from our house. I was happy about it, because we had frequented the restaurant which has closed there. The sign says, "Pizza and Wings" great. I stop in to pick up dinner, and look at the menu, and don't see any pizza prices. I ask how large a medium pizza is, and how much it costs, "Oh, we decided not to do pizza after all"  ??? Well, OK. So, I look over, and there's some "grand opening specials" I think, I'll order off of that. There's...Korean BBQ sandwich (at a pizza and wings place? ??? ) but I like korean bbq, so I ask for that. Oops. They don't have that ready yet. OK, what about wings? Boneless? They don't have that ready yet either. WOW. So I just left. Maybe they were having trouble getting off the ground, but I think I would rather have some wasted food from not enough orders than not be able to serve customers in the initial days after opening, for exactly this reason: It's been months, and I haven't bothered going back.

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5873 on: June 12, 2014, 05:43:58 PM »
We had a Cuban and Mexican restaurant. It said both on the signs. You go in, the first time they had both. It was really good.

I went back, no Mexican and very little Cuban food available. Now? There is paper covering the windows and door, which does not indicate continued success.
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5874 on: June 12, 2014, 08:16:18 PM »
The sales department at Gemu Valves.  http://www.gemu.com/about_gemu.html

No, you've never heard of them.  They sell valves and fittings and flow measuring tools to the food and pharmaceutical industries.  I have a pen that I picked up at their booth at a trade show in April.  It has their name on the barrel. 

You know the little thing on one end of a pen that you press to make the writing other end come out, then press again to bring that end back in?  That tip broke.  Now the point is permanently exposed.  The only to bring it back in is to use a tiny screwdriver in place of that same tip.  I'll use that pen for grocery lists and other things around the house until it runs dry.  And every time I see it I'll associate Gemu with low quality products. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5875 on: June 13, 2014, 12:26:39 AM »
The sales department at Gemu Valves.  http://www.gemu.com/about_gemu.html

No, you've never heard of them.  They sell valves and fittings and flow measuring tools to the food and pharmaceutical industries.  I have a pen that I picked up at their booth at a trade show in April.  It has their name on the barrel. 

You know the little thing on one end of a pen that you press to make the writing other end come out, then press again to bring that end back in?  That tip broke.  Now the point is permanently exposed.  The only to bring it back in is to use a tiny screwdriver in place of that same tip.  I'll use that pen for grocery lists and other things around the house until it runs dry.  And every time I see it I'll associate Gemu with low quality products.

I'm confused, do they actually manufacture pens?

Because I've received literally dozens of promotional pens over the years, and they're nearly always cheap and fall apart relatively quickly.  It never occurred to me that it reflected negatively on the company advertising on the pen - after all, they're just getting their name out there with a cheap free gift, not actually *endorsing* the pen. 
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5876 on: June 13, 2014, 01:30:47 AM »
The sales department at Gemu Valves.  http://www.gemu.com/about_gemu.html

No, you've never heard of them.  They sell valves and fittings and flow measuring tools to the food and pharmaceutical industries.  I have a pen that I picked up at their booth at a trade show in April.  It has their name on the barrel. 

You know the little thing on one end of a pen that you press to make the writing other end come out, then press again to bring that end back in?  That tip broke.  Now the point is permanently exposed.  The only to bring it back in is to use a tiny screwdriver in place of that same tip.  I'll use that pen for grocery lists and other things around the house until it runs dry.  And every time I see it I'll associate Gemu with low quality products.

I'm confused, do they actually manufacture pens?

Because I've received literally dozens of promotional pens over the years, and they're nearly always cheap and fall apart relatively quickly.  It never occurred to me that it reflected negatively on the company advertising on the pen - after all, they're just getting their name out there with a cheap free gift, not actually *endorsing* the pen.

Same here. Companies hand out free pens all the time. They're always of the cheap variety and I never expect them to last long... It would never cross my mind to associate the quality of the pen with the quality of the company's products... unless they actually make pens.
 
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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5877 on: June 13, 2014, 05:59:39 AM »
Most of the pens I get a trade shows work fine.  They may run out of ink sooner than a purchased pen.  The clip may break off.  But they are usable as pens.  My employer once gave the employees some pens that had been purchased as trade show give-aways.  Those pens required way too much pressure to write so they weren't suitable for giving to customers.  I figured most companies would only give out pens that work like pens. 

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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5878 on: June 13, 2014, 06:07:36 AM »
The sales department at Gemu Valves.  http://www.gemu.com/about_gemu.html

No, you've never heard of them.  They sell valves and fittings and flow measuring tools to the food and pharmaceutical industries.  I have a pen that I picked up at their booth at a trade show in April.  It has their name on the barrel. 

You know the little thing on one end of a pen that you press to make the writing other end come out, then press again to bring that end back in?  That tip broke.  Now the point is permanently exposed.  The only to bring it back in is to use a tiny screwdriver in place of that same tip.  I'll use that pen for grocery lists and other things around the house until it runs dry.  And every time I see it I'll associate Gemu with low quality products.

I'm confused, do they actually manufacture pens?

Because I've received literally dozens of promotional pens over the years, and they're nearly always cheap and fall apart relatively quickly.  It never occurred to me that it reflected negatively on the company advertising on the pen - after all, they're just getting their name out there with a cheap free gift, not actually *endorsing* the pen.

Same here. Companies hand out free pens all the time. They're always of the cheap variety and I never expect them to last long... It would never cross my mind to associate the quality of the pen with the quality of the company's products... unless they actually make pens.
Yes, this is my reaction, too.

On a connected note, I do think there is a touch of PD in the marketing company which keeps trying to sell us promotional pens for our business. Their sales model seems to be that they send us a free sample with our name on, in the hope we will hen order lots of the pens to give out to our clients.

which might actually work, were it not for the fact that they are sending pens emblazoned with the name of the company we were (or half of us were) before we merged and changed or name, 12 years ago. They also address the letter to someone who retired 15 years ago.

Our details are not difficult to find - we have a website (which includes details of all staff). If you Google 'old Name' our website is what will come up, because we  have both of the old names in the 'history of the firm' part of the 'about us' section.

If you are a marketing company, wouldn't identifying who you are trying to sell to be a fairly basic thing to do at an early stage?


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Re: Professional Darwinism: Update to OP on p.74
« Reply #5879 on: June 13, 2014, 08:02:51 AM »
Can you not tell the big boss beforehand, to clue him in?

He's aware of the friction, but he doesn't want to deal with it, so he's mostly pretending like it's not happening.

We ended up going in to his office with one of my coworkers carrying an email on the subject. He realized what we were doing and reiterated that we need to hand in a paper with everything written down, but he didn't actually yell for us not following his instructions, which was nice.

And then, when I got into work this morning, she'd created a document on our shared drive at work, for all of us to write down our suggestions. But when I opened it, she'd already started writing on the doc with "Cindy's thoughts" except that she wrote down EVERYTHING that we collectively brainstormed as her thoughts.

<headdesk>

I really can't stand working with this woman.
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