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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #135 on: August 06, 2010, 11:17:39 AM »
I thought about calling my sister, but I think it's better to just walk away. If I don't make a big deal about it, we may still have a chance of it not reaching my parents. (I don't even want to contemplate that nightmare.)

Perhaps a preemptive strike would be better where your parents are concerned?  Not sure how to do that one, but it would prevent the situation from blowing up in everyone's faces.  Your daughter can get her story in without any presumptions added from your BIL.

I've been thinking this too.  Balletmom's silence on the issue could be seen as guilt if one is inclined to thinking that way. 
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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #136 on: August 06, 2010, 11:42:33 AM »
I think Balletmom should call her dad today to get that preemptive strike in, because unfortunately it doesn't look like this is going away any time soon.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #137 on: August 06, 2010, 11:55:10 AM »
I think Balletmom should call her dad today to get that preemptive strike in, because unfortunately it doesn't look like this is going away any time soon.

Pod.  The longer Balletmom stays silent on this, the longer time the lies have to take and sink in.  At this point I'd be tempted to tell them that the harassment stop on pain of legal action (I don't know if that's a good course of action for Balletmom but if her DDs' reputations are going to suffer over this it might be worthwhile).
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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #138 on: August 06, 2010, 12:16:44 PM »
This is not dying down it is growing. Uncle is egging on his son and others to escalate this by painting your ODD in the worst light possible and to do so in public- facebook.

Balletmom, unfortunately, I think that you will have to address this with grandparents and probably other family members.  :'(  Don't be surprised when you start to talk to others about this that they have heard about it from Uncle and that the story has grown and is painting your ODD in even a worse light.

You have to wonder if Uncle felt threatened by ODD or felt that she, or your family, were taking attention away from from his son, or family, and is feeling desperate so this is his way of getting rid of the competition.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #139 on: August 06, 2010, 01:32:58 PM »
What a sad update.

From how you've described your family dynamic, I understand you not wanting it to upset your parents.  It also sounds like it has a good chance of getting worse, and in this age of electronic information, where nothing online ever really disappears, accusations like this could hurt your children down the line.

Have you thought about having a "Come to deity" moment with your brother?  Let him know that if his slanderous and fraudulent accusations get to and upset your parents he will have permanently damaged any future rel@tionship with you or your family.  And let him know that if he doesn't stop his assault on your child's good name, you will take whatever actions necessary to make him stop and clear her name.

You are entitled to be righteously angry in this situation.  There are ways to politely defend your children, tooth and claw, and hopefully your parents too.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house
« Reply #140 on: August 06, 2010, 06:31:13 PM »
I spoke to my sister today about the message Nephew sent on Facebook. She said she'd heard a slightly different version from him; I told her I saw the message and could confirm it. She said that Nephew had told her that YDD had called him a ***** first; I said, "She probably did." We were both of like mind that in general they should be left alone to sort out their Facebook issues on their own.

I then told her this: It came down to the fact that we had personally verified ODD's locations for the week, and had two other parents verify that. She's completely locked in as to the timeline.

On the other hand, the only evidence against her (roughly speaking) is Brother's word that "nobody else had a key." Which, as I told my sister, is a really poor basis to destroy the relationship with my daughter (not to mention, I had the word of the other parents.)

Sis then said that Brother had told her he was talking to the Sheriff's department about this. They said it wasn't a break-in and he told her he was "giving them some names."

Now, I don't know if those names include ODD, or just her friends, or a completely different set of kids. And I don't know when exactly this was going to take place, or did take place.

ODD freaked out when she heard this, because she's afraid it will get all over school if a deputy comes by. I told her it could also be very good in proving her innocence, because we have two other witnesses to verify where she was. Also, Brother's own son will come under scrutiny as he did have access to a key; the deputy will be objective in that regard.

DH freaked out even more. He was threatening to go nuclear and cut off all ties to my family if my brother did turn DD's name over to the sheriff's department. I told him that wasn't exactly fair and we could just wait and see before taking the nuclear response.

I'm not going to make a pre-emptive strike with my parents because a) there's a slight chance Brother is talking about other kids; or if he's trying to just turn in DD's friends, it came to nothing. As none of DDs' friends have said anything to her, it hasn't happened yet. My father would probably try to have some kind of family meeting and a forced reconciliation, or worse, believe my brother, but no matter what, he'd probably always have some kind of question in his mind. So, a pre-empt might cause more problems than it would solve.

On the other hand, my Pinhead brother would be a useful ally. I'm on the best terms with him; my sister told him off a few years ago. Brother is closer to my sister than me. (I guess each of us gets one of my prize brothers, LOL.) Pinhead would probably relish the chance to get in on the gossip side and know something. Plus, Pinhead has a 15 y/o son that's very sweet and not a partier; he'd understand the situation. So if I could get Pinhead to swear to secrecy unless it all came out, it would be good to know.

After all, Brother told my sister, so remaining silent with the one other sibling is probably  not a good defense.

So far, my brother hasn't actually contacted  DD, and I don't have any proof that his son told Nephew (Sister's son) about this. However, if he does, I will slap him with a restraining order or a letter from an attorney so fast his head will spin. Years ago my father put a restraining order on HIS brother's wife because their mother was 89 y/o and the wife was writing letters and upsetting Grandma with accusations that she didn't treat them right, etc.

I'm not especially proud of it, but when it comes to being called liars or otherwise getting character slandered, we don't play.






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Re: My kid didn't party in your house update p. 10
« Reply #141 on: August 06, 2010, 06:46:00 PM »
I am sorry you have to go through this.  Like I said--the truth always comes out and DBro may not like the answer that he gets from the police.  I do think that I would defintely cool the relationship between my family and DBro and his family.  Why be around toxic people?  Unfortunately this means telling your parents.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house update p. 10
« Reply #142 on: August 06, 2010, 07:20:41 PM »
Get a screen shot of the comment your nephew left on his facebook- if the sherrif shows up, you can give him the names of your daughters alibi's, as well as the indication that your nephew suspects that it was his friends.

ETA- the first comment that the son who's house was broken into made, not the most recent one from the one who's not even involved. 

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house update p. 10
« Reply #143 on: August 06, 2010, 08:40:27 PM »
Get a screen shot of the comment your nephew left on his facebook- if the sherrif shows up, you can give him the names of your daughters alibi's, as well as the indication that your nephew suspects that it was his friends.

ETA- the first comment that the son who's house was broken into made, not the most recent one from the one who's not even involved. 

It's confusing, but there are two, no, three nephews.

Nephew A: My brother's son, on vacation with him. He plays football and DD has commented in the past (before all this) that some of his friends take advantage of him. (her opinion, of course.) Nephew A isn't the most talented player but he is ginormous, works hard,  and is a trusting kind of kid.

Nephew B: Same age as DD and Nephew A. He lives about 5 hours from us. I don't know how close he and A are. He can be squirrelly most of the time. He's probably a lot brighter than A but not so pleasant natured. He's my sister's son; his sister is the same age as YDD but they have had very obvious opposite temperaments since birth. They could end up as Glinda and Elphaba in Wicked because they are so opposite.

Nephew  C: He's 2 years  younger than the other nephews and a year older than YDD. He's a bit of the odd one out but he's a genuinely nice kid. Both DDs like him, or rather tolerate him. Years ago, when he was about 6, he pushed YDD down from a treehouse and she ended up with the most horrific bruise/swelling and subsequent x-ray, etc after--so the fact that both DDs find him "tolerable" now says a lot about him. He's Pinhead's (oldest brother's) son.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house update p. 10
« Reply #144 on: August 06, 2010, 09:22:33 PM »
How big of a town do you live in?  Unless you live in a really small town, it is extremely unlikely that the police would spend any time at all investigating kids partying in a house, mostly cleaning up after themselves, and drinking some vodka.  Certainly not to the point of going to your daughter's school to talk to her.  Unless your brother starts making up things that were stolen or damaged, they're probably not going to do anything, and even then they'd probably come to your home first.  There are rules about when they can talk to minor children without parents present.  So comfort your ODD that that at least isn't likely.

I'm sorry y'all are having to go through this. :(

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house update p. 10
« Reply #145 on: August 06, 2010, 10:17:58 PM »
Small town, but big county, bigger towns near by. There's a fifty-fifty chance they will show up to make a token response, but not follow through with any real enthusiasm, especially if we tell them we have have other parents to back it up.

The bigger issue for Brother is that the only claim he has is "Balletmom was the only one with the key" when he has one young adult daughter who just moved from here, and one teenage son, who also had keys. They are far more likely to chalk him up to a parent in denial.

However, the odds of them making a courtesy call or follow up, are good. They'll make it obvious in a very polite way your cause is hopeless, though.

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Re: My kid didn't party in your house update p. 10
« Reply #146 on: August 06, 2010, 10:34:37 PM »
Balletmom, how ridiculous.  I remember my mother's boyfriend telling her she was in denial because he saw cigarette butts near the driveway, so my friends and I MUST be smoking (which she didn't believe).  My friends probably were, but not at my house, because I was so anti-smoking it was amazing.  And my mom and her bf smoked, which was the far more likely source.

If your brother continues to escalate, I actually agree with your DH.  You guys are going to have a blast when it comes to wedding planning guest lists one day  ;)
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Re: My kid didn't party in your house update p. 10
« Reply #147 on: August 06, 2010, 10:38:03 PM »
Balletmom, if this truly becomes a criminal investigation, please, please, please:

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